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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 08 2013 03:15 GMT
#1681
Holy crap mafia guys you guys are wayyyyyyy to calculated. Just post more, go with the flow, whatever your fake reads (real) take you go with it... don't worry so much!!! FirmTofu told me on my first game as mafia just do whatever you would do as town just 3x less... also while it might seem like a great idea early on, do NOT ignore your mafia teammates. It was WAYYYYY too easy to make scumpairs in this game...

Also, greaat job Vonthin! You played a good cop, I'm really mad that I didn't realize you were cop earlier... but nice checks! I actually thought E00 was cop and checked OWB.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 08 2013 03:18 GMT
#1682
I am just really fucking happy Storr wasnt mafia, If he was a scum pair with OWB and called him out to make him look better I would have prob lost us the game
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 08 2013 03:26 GMT
#1683
GG!

On November 08 2013 12:15 Balla24 wrote:
Holy crap mafia guys you guys are wayyyyyyy to calculated. Just post more, go with the flow, whatever your fake reads (real) take you go with it... don't worry so much!!! FirmTofu told me on my first game as mafia just do whatever you would do as town just 3x less... also while it might seem like a great idea early on, do NOT ignore your mafia teammates. It was WAYYYYY too easy to make scumpairs in this game...

...


I think the bolded sums up the game very well. Mafia were playing too scared/passive, and let the town organize themselves too well.

As mafia, it's not enough to just "blend in". You have to create chaos. disrupt the town, and create a terrible atmosphere for anyone to be productive. If you sit back and let the town talk amongst themselves without pushing your own agenda, you're just going to get run over.

It's definitely tough, and I understand that playing as mafia can be really stressful, but you'll be come much better as mafia when you learn to relax and post a bit more freely.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 08 2013 03:30 GMT
#1684
Yeah, the lack of experience and time made it hard as fuck lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 08 2013 03:32 GMT
#1685
@OWB just never give up... the train got started on you early enough that you could have posted tons and acted like town. Give some fake reasoning on why you didn't switch to poofter (recommendation: when you say you read someone's filter, READ THEIR FILTER, even if they are on your team, it helps when you need to post something you can post a soft-defense of them, soft-accusation anything like that, counter someone's point whatever...)

NEVER GIVE UP as mafia. Even when a scary town is pushing you. Attack the weak points, give reasoning about other things, admit "mistakes" when you can't really give reasoning and say what you should have done instead. Try to buddy up with someone who knows you and is thus more likely to write you off. Also, defend yourself and bring up a COUNTER-TARGET always, try to direct town, look at how storr was doing this constantly as town, scum should do this too. Do not tunnel. It's bad as town right? So why do it as mafia... anyways NEVER GIVE UP.

Nah these were my first games too, only experience I have with mafia is sc2mafia (completely useless garbage piece of shit) and watching eSports Mafia with StorrZerg and Koibu and people from this forum. You just have to be more confident.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 08 2013 03:35 GMT
#1686
On November 08 2013 12:32 Balla24 wrote:
@OWB just never give up... the train got started on you early enough that you could have posted tons and acted like town. Give some fake reasoning on why you didn't switch to poofter (recommendation: when you say you read someone's filter, READ THEIR FILTER, even if they are on your team, it helps when you need to post something you can post a soft-defense of them, soft-accusation anything like that, counter someone's point whatever...)

NEVER GIVE UP as mafia. Even when a scary town is pushing you. Attack the weak points, give reasoning about other things, admit "mistakes" when you can't really give reasoning and say what you should have done instead. Try to buddy up with someone who knows you and is thus more likely to write you off. Also, defend yourself and bring up a COUNTER-TARGET always, try to direct town, look at how storr was doing this constantly as town, scum should do this too. Do not tunnel. It's bad as town right? So why do it as mafia... anyways NEVER GIVE UP.

Nah these were my first games too, only experience I have with mafia is sc2mafia (completely useless garbage piece of shit) and watching eSports Mafia with StorrZerg and Koibu and people from this forum. You just have to be more confident.

Damn...that makes me feel really shitty. I suck at this game T_T
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 08 2013 03:36 GMT
#1687
Also, look at how you played last game and compare it to this game. You were completely different. Totally different OWB. Do what you did last game!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 08 2013 03:38 GMT
#1688
The only reason I played well last game was because I knew for sure July was SK, it's easy to be confident when you know you're right lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 08 2013 03:43 GMT
#1689
Also, I would love some post-game analysis that iamperfection mentioned ^_^ if you're up for it Blazinghand
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
November 08 2013 03:50 GMT
#1690
post game analysis by the amazing umasi (who hardly read the game and was totally wrong)
obzy is lazy (or busy)
balla is a baller
johnny was kind of rude and then was less rude
qed
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 08 2013 03:53 GMT
#1691
.
. .

It is proved. QED.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 08 2013 03:54 GMT
#1692
Ye, sorry for dropping the ball guys.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 08 2013 03:56 GMT
#1693
D'aww I feel kinda honored to have been in the running for night 1 kill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 08 2013 03:57 GMT
#1694
I'd like to apologize for dropping the ball for both of my newbies---July my not being around may have contributed to you getting lynched, though I suppose we weren't in great communication from the start.
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/YFRvPLhdGUM

Jonny - you played very well in my opinion---be careful about being overly aggressive like we talked about imo. You asked the right questions and at least I was able to provide a FEW answers.

Sorry to the hosts for this, I really assumed I had more time than I did. I also probably won't be able to do much analysis of their play considering I missed a good half of the game. I won't be coaching again for a while.
Sorry again, and GG town! You did it completely without my help. (not that that's surprising or anything)
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/86fx5hBEMApg
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OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 08 2013 03:58 GMT
#1695
Wave is totally responsible for scum lost.
zz..!


Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 08 2013 04:01 GMT
#1696
Oh, p.s.;

Wave, wth have you done?! I've gone from a scv to a marine because of you.
Explain this.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 08 2013 04:01 GMT
#1697
I blame Wave for getting me into this game. Make me better now plox.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 08 2013 04:06 GMT
#1698
On November 08 2013 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:
As mafia, it's not enough to just "blend in". You have to create chaos. disrupt the town, and create a terrible atmosphere for anyone to be productive. If you sit back and let the town talk amongst themselves without pushing your own agenda, you're just going to get run over.

It's definitely tough, and I understand that playing as mafia can be really stressful, but you'll be come much better as mafia when you learn to relax and post a bit more freely.



This is exactly how Odin came into the game and the reason I wanted to lynch him so badly on day 1.

Nice job guys, I would not have wanted OWB lynched. Killing Van and me helped the town more than anything I think.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 08 2013 04:07 GMT
#1699
On November 08 2013 12:50 Umasi wrote:
post game analysis by the amazing umasi (who hardly read the game and was totally wrong)
obzy is lazy (or busy)
balla is a baller
johnny was kind of rude and then was less rude
qed


that's only your analysis because that's what i told you

All in all, this game felt a lot like my first newbie (in retrospect) - very townie people were active with discussion, quieter people were open with reads and thought process, and scum didn't have control of the atmosphere, as Hapa already mentioned. Sorry for raging at you a bit Jonny ^^ I hate getting flamed, even though you were right about Odin lol :x It made me take a break for a few days, but in that time the game basically got solved so - all's well that ends well? :l

Although I think all of us played acceptably - special shoutout to Balla; who was so active that I was sort of paranoid. If we had gotten to lylo and for some reason you and I had been left alive, I almost certainly would've snap voted you out of sheer "There's no way mafia lets him get to lylo. None." Very well played as a town leader imo ^^
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 08 2013 04:07 GMT
#1700
OWB i totally feel you man, just got creamed as mafia in my last game too. i just couldn't get into the right mindset to post haha. i think it was because i lacked confidence, which was further exacerbated from being busy.
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