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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 23:17 GMT
#1321
On November 05 2013 08:16 StorrZerg wrote:
btw right now, before the day hits. i'd lynch nearly anyone right now tbh.


way to be decisive!!!!!!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 04 2013 23:24 GMT
#1322
On November 05 2013 08:17 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 08:16 StorrZerg wrote:
btw right now, before the day hits. i'd lynch nearly anyone right now tbh.


way to be decisive!!!!!!


hard to be decisive when everyone is against you.
not to mention day has yet to hit.


Took me a while yesterday to narrow down my lynch options but i did. (i say a while, took me nearly the first half of day 1 iirc)
Will probably do the same again when day phase hits.

btw if i happen to make it further on (past tomorrows lynch) I am going to blizzcon. it will be hard to be active in this thread and follow it to a key. i can keep the minimum of 1 post and vote for sure. (particularly the Saturday lynch) but ill be back on sunday.

i could be like you and johnny and post my preferred lynch order. but i don't see the point.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 23:29 GMT
#1323
I don't see the point either... but it can't hurt..
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#1324
On November 05 2013 08:00 StorrZerg wrote:
but regardless there are still people who have yet to break 4 pages...
There is plenty to talk about...
E00e, OWB, nyxnyxnyx, cake , Vonthin, OBZY (i know he is the IC so don't even yell at me for putting him on this)

Don't really care or want to yell at you for this, just figured I'd comment - I'm posting less and reading more because I don't think my opinions are very good, so I'm trying to read more carefully instead of writing. Doesn't apply to non-IC since most people have to consistently show their towniness, but I lucked out. Such is life.

As an aside, the way that you were saying Jonny was a sure nk because it would set you up for lynch would be more believable if July and Van hadn't pointed out Jonny as likely scum, and he wasn't even remotely considered near the second half of day 2 due to the way he began playing. Out of the non-lurkers, you are certainly my preferred candidate to lynch atm; as an aside, saying things like "I don't think anybody [myself excepted] is confirmed town" - while true, technically, it doesn't help at all. If you are mafia, it would be quite bad if there was a reasonably accepted town circle that we could simply lynch outside of, trying to claim that everybody [again, excepting myself] could be the last scum - while true, technically - is just trying to upset the rhythm at the moment. It reminds me a lot of the way that Risen was playing in World Heavyweight Championship, refusing to hold consistent reads that could be directed back at him. Although I may be misremembering, as an observer, it seemed like after each lynch, a full reset of the game occurred [from his perspective].

The fact that you're deciding that a full reset should have had occurred (everybody is scummy) as we head into day 3 perplexes me. Even if you are town, and do happen to be correct, it's still a wrong mindset, in my opinion.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 23:56 GMT
#1325
@balla the point is discussing our lynch for tomorrow. I'm following your post from yesterday and we came to a consensus and lynched poofter.

@obzy Your reads have been helping the town. I should not have raged at you. As I said, a long week for me. Of all of the posts I write then delete that's the most regrettable.

@storr Why give up? If you're town, give us something. No one is committed to lynching you.

I'm not letting you off this easy. What "weird shit" did odin post? His first day was the worst day.

On November 05 2013 08:12 StorrZerg wrote:
I had a town read on odin, until he started doing weird shit and then starting going on the lets lynch storr train

As for vonthin, he makes the most sense as scum for a person to be picked for their voting for previous 2 days imo.




And why von's voting pattern when it mirrors yours?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 04 2013 23:57 GMT
#1326
yeah you are confused for sure obzy. also forgot that yeah we do have a confirmed (you) so that was a mistake in my post.

and im not calling for a full reset. But i am looking at the options, i did that yesterday, and balla flipped his shit when i talked about him being role blocked.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 05 2013 00:04 GMT
#1327
Oh also just as a quick aside, if a cop checked someone and got back town, it doesn't confirm them, they could easily be godfather. If a cop checks someone and gets back scum, it confirms them as antitown, and we should lynch without hesitation. (If it was a fakeclaim, then we just lynch the fake-claimer the following day.) --> That said, I think a cop should not check Storr, since if he has confidence asking for a check, if he's scum, he's godfather. And either way, it doesn't confirm him one way or another. *shrug*

And when I said [myself excepted] - I was talking about me, not in your voice :x I don't think you ever implied I was scum.

Last - "looking at the options, where the options are everyone" might as well just be a full reset. There are better lynches than Balla and Jonny at this point. Yes, if it was 2v1 lylo, it would be worth considering everybody. Right now, I don't really think it is. Probably gone until after work~
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 05 2013 00:07 GMT
#1328
Just a couple more things to add about Von. On the surface, his last page or so of posts seems fairly pro town, at least in regards to pushing someone who he thinks is scum, but at that point in the game I was hoping for him to stay active and push other players. Putting me as his number one target is fine, but he hasn't really gone out of his way to make any other pro town efforts. I only fell back on Von after my post on nyx got shut down. His main defense has been that our play has been too similar for me to call him out, but I'm under fire for being scum too so I don't think that really seems like the best defense.

In regards to his votes, he voted poof while he was missing, then switched to me, and then went right back to poof after he failed to come up with a good argument (and was likely to get lynched). I think it's likely that Von went for the team kill in order to establish his place as a "town" member. Especially if poof was actually afk and communication between scum players broke down.

RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 05 2013 00:08 GMT
#1329
On November 05 2013 08:56 JonnyLaw wrote:
@balla the point is discussing our lynch for tomorrow. I'm following your post from yesterday and we came to a consensus and lynched poofter.

@obzy Your reads have been helping the town. I should not have raged at you. As I said, a long week for me. Of all of the posts I write then delete that's the most regrettable.

@storr Why give up? If you're town, give us something. No one is committed to lynching you.

I'm not letting you off this easy. What "weird shit" did odin post? His first day was the worst day.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 08:12 StorrZerg wrote:
I had a town read on odin, until he started doing weird shit and then starting going on the lets lynch storr train

As for vonthin, he makes the most sense as scum for a person to be picked for their voting for previous 2 days imo.




And why von's voting pattern when it mirrors yours?


Wouldn't say i've given up yet.. possible given up that town can make the right choice about myself.

As to no one is committed to lynching myself. Maybe we have different opinions on the matter. But put yourself in my shoes as a town. tell me you don't come to the conclusion that nearly everyone has made a case against myself to lynch me.

As for my voting over Vonthin. We do differ quite a lot from day 1. Hell one thing that is fishy about Vonthin, iirc he asked me why i didn't pull my vote off july. (sorry if i get the names wrong ill have to check who exactly asked the question) But i respond with, read my filter and you tell me. And i don't think he responded to that.

but as for why i stayed on july. He had done nothing to convince me to move to anyone else. His first post was a decent start. but after a few posts it was clear. And near the end, he just plan and simple gives up. And honestly at the end, i really didn't care so much about him being town or mafia, i was more concerned with getting a lynch off for information. I was willing to switch votes, if someone presented a case that i liked and could back. Johnny iirc actually did present a case (i think against odin) where he lied.

To say we are similar on day 1 is wrong.

Day 2 you could say we did similar things yes. I felt i was pretty clear on my stance. I was willing to switch votes, but not at the cost of having a no lynch day. Specially onto someone who i thought was more mafia than tehpoofter. (being owb) cake for all his crap yesterday, and for how much he kept falling and doing scummy things in my eyes was never considered realistically for a lynch at the end of day 2.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 05 2013 00:11 GMT
#1330
On November 05 2013 09:04 Obzy wrote:
Oh also just as a quick aside, if a cop checked someone and got back town, it doesn't confirm them, they could easily be godfather. If a cop checks someone and gets back scum, it confirms them as antitown, and we should lynch without hesitation. (If it was a fakeclaim, then we just lynch the fake-claimer the following day.) --> That said, I think a cop should not check Storr, since if he has confidence asking for a check, if he's scum, he's godfather. And either way, it doesn't confirm him one way or another. *shrug*

And when I said [myself excepted] - I was talking about me, not in your voice :x I don't think you ever implied I was scum.

Last - "looking at the options, where the options are everyone" might as well just be a full reset. There are better lynches than Balla and Jonny at this point. Yes, if it was 2v1 lylo, it would be worth considering everybody. Right now, I don't really think it is. Probably gone until after work~



fair point about the cop check on me.

as for "full reset" your again confused, just because i keep an open mind doesn't mean you need to put words in my mouth
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 00:17 GMT
#1331
Why do you keep saying we're putting words in your mouth? You literally said "i could lynch everybody atm"... how is that not a full reset?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 05 2013 00:34 GMT
#1332
On November 05 2013 09:17 Balla24 wrote:
Why do you keep saying we're putting words in your mouth? You literally said "i could lynch everybody atm"... how is that not a full reset?



why do i keep saying it? because people have.

as for i could lynch anyone. because im frustrated?
to win this game people have to be lynched. if a claim comes up tomorrow or something happens at night or w/e ill be open to it. Ill be open to look at it and think about it. I don't see the harm in being open about that...
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 05 2013 00:55 GMT
#1333
On November 05 2013 09:17 Balla24 wrote:
Why do you keep saying we're putting words in your mouth? You literally said "i could lynch everybody atm"... how is that not a full reset?


tbh though your right this wasn't that clear on my part.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 05 2013 01:02 GMT
#1334
Day 3


Johhnylaw died he was a VT

You have 48 hours. With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 01:03 GMT
#1335
RIP in peace jonny T_T
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 01:05 GMT
#1336
I was not roleblocked (havent gotten PM yet at least), was anybody roleblocked?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 05 2013 01:07 GMT
#1337
Turns out he wasn't wrong about his fate.

I wonder what the hell the blue roles for this game even are. Johnny was a solid choice for a medic save, although I suppose Balla was also a potential target so they might have tried to save him. Ball and Storr probably aren't blue, so all of our blue power lies in our lurkers. I guess that's good because they aren't being targeted, but it sucks we aren't getting any blue information.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 05 2013 01:08 GMT
#1338
EBWOP blue information as in useful information from blue powers, not information on who is blue.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 05 2013 01:13 GMT
#1339


GL Town! Can I get an obz qt?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
November 05 2013 01:14 GMT
#1340
ggs johhnylaw

i've been spelling your name wrong this entire time ><


so as for his kill. and why him
things he did
scum hunt successfully

Possible to set up on the future lynches (this seemed to be the case for their last lynch. to set up johhny which back fired)
who would the setup be on?
On November 05 2013 06:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
In order storr > odin > vonthin > owb > E00e > nyx for lynch candidates as of this moment.


since i know i'm town. and at least he way i feel town is pressuring towards me, i'd suspect myself the most likely person to be lynched today.

tbh, i think they killed him for the combination of those 2. johhny also felt genuinely he was going to die, and he didn't claim his role. I feel if he did have a role he would have claimed it, a min before the deadline hit with all his information.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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