Re: Roleblock - It's safe to assume that it was a mafia RB because everyone is reading Balla as town, and even if somebody wasn't, there would be better (scummier) targets anyways. If you want to doubt that, I'd find it more plausible that the mafia team chose not to RB anybody so Balla could fakeclaim - rather than a town member RB'd him by chance, and he also, by chance, happens to be mafia; and mafia had specifically not used their RB, assuming they had one.

One of those scenarios is a lot simpler than the others.

Jonny, I apologize for flipping out at you. I do think you're still scummier than not, but I'm not sure how much of my conviction comes from just being upset, and how much comes from careful analysis. Right now, the only reason I'm even having second thoughts is because you've been going around making everybody mad, which shows a serious lack of consideration for personal safety lol. I'm not sure if if would necessarily make sense from a mafia point of view to piss everybody off. + Show Spoiler +

Although for me specifically, it might make sense because I turn red like a cartoon character with rage and stop paying attention... though if you were mafia, doing this to get me to OMGUS you immediately and peace out makes no sense either.

Balla, calm down ^_^ I don't think Storr was seriously considering lynching you, just trying to point out to Jonny that 'in general, it's not worth speculating about right now.'

I haven't seen much from owb/poofter recently.. Sort of is bothering me.

Balla24

2322 Posts

November 02 2013 20:31 GMT

#884

Yeah you're right, sorry. This game is high in tension lol........

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

November 02 2013 20:32 GMT

#885

On November 03 2013 05:27 Balla24 wrote:
But you're looking at situations, what's the point of doing that ??? ESPECIALLY if i'm not a lynch candidate.

So I'm not allowed to look into the situation? I don't' see that in the rules.
again balla, stop freaking out.

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

November 02 2013 20:35 GMT

#886

just throwing it out, i haven't reread tehpoofter filter yet, but i'd probably lynch him today.
only 2 pages shouldn't take that much time when im done with my calls to check him out

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

November 02 2013 20:38 GMT

#887

On November 03 2013 05:08 StorrZerg wrote:

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Just read his OWB filter. Has yet to post today as well

OWB i'd lynch him today.
Defends Nyx for bad reasons imo on day 1.

So maybe they are linked. Votes of him and Nyx kinda link up on E00e.

However

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That being said, i do like this post. The intentions behind it.

I've been busier than expected so I just got around to catching up on the thread. Gotta take care of few errands but I wanna address Vonith's more recent posts in regards to my scum read on him. Shouldn't be too long.

E00e

88 Posts

November 02 2013 20:42 GMT

#888

Cakeman's last 12 posts or so seem strange to me because I feel like there is a conclusion missing. There are a lot of questions and responding posts to other people but the only pattern I see is pushing Storr and nothing is really done with the information cake receives.

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

November 02 2013 20:50 GMT

#889

@tehpoofter why did you go on july, when Cake had all ready cast his vote on july? If you think cake is scum did you think it was a bus? I know its hard to answer that question after the fact when it is clear that july was town. How come you didn't' express your concern more about cake while voting on july?

cakemanofdoom

336 Posts

November 02 2013 20:53 GMT

#890

Don't be so impatient please E00e. I want Storr to post some conclusions of his own, till then he's just seeming scummier and scummier to me.

I mean, he requested people to talk about, and then he gave an inconclusive post on one of them (owb) and flat out didn't post on the other till after I asked him. As I've been saying, feels like he's trying to post and seem productive without giving us any actually helpful opinions.

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

November 02 2013 20:53 GMT

#891

After finishing tehpoofter filter, yet another person who has yet to contribute to today.

I actually don't' want to lynch him. I really liked the pressure he put on cake as well as his reasoning. my only problem, was he followed cake, to vote july. I feel if he was town he would have expressed more concern with following his #1 scum read onto the july vote. Honestly this is the biggest scum feeling i get from tehpoofter. If i take that out, i read him fairly town.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 20:56 GMT

#892

I'm just asking a question. I'm not angry. Why should anybody be taken at face value in this game? You should understand that as well as anyone. There's a lot of time until we need to decide on our lynch.

My point is if there is no mafia roleblocker then claiming to be role blocked as mafia makes a lot of sense.

Why did you tell us you were roleblocked? What information does that add to help the town? From what I see it doesn't help us but that could just be a mistake. This is a serious question and I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it.

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

November 02 2013 20:56 GMT

#893

well cake... got some more questions? want to make some opinions of your own now?

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

November 02 2013 20:57 GMT

#894

well i won't answer for balla, as to why he claimed.
If i got / get RB i would claim it.

Vonthin

United States2864 Posts

November 02 2013 20:59 GMT

#895

Claiming RB is a good thing, helps us determine the set up of the game. Ofc if you were mafia you could always lie to mess us up but I don't think Balla is mafia

cakemanofdoom

336 Posts

November 02 2013 21:02 GMT

#896

Storr - My question, same as before: who do you think is mafia?

I've already made my opinions. poofter is scum, owb is suspicious. Nothing has changed those opinions since those two have barely posted since the last time I posted my thoughts. You're probably scum, especially at this point.

Oh, and Balla scares me since in the off chance that he's mafia his position as just about everyone's townread lets him beat us fairly easily. I like that he's finally getting some pressure. But I don't really think asking about claiming roleblocked is a helpful way of doing so...

cakemanofdoom

336 Posts

November 02 2013 21:06 GMT

#897

Well, I'm not liking how defensive Balla is getting at least - it's like he thinks any pressure on him is forbidden or something. Think I need to read through his massive filter more carefully at some point... not looking forward to that :/

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 21:07 GMT

#898

That's the thing. I'm not pressuring anything with that question. I'm just curious why?

So if we know there's a mafia roleblocker then we learned that we have at least one blue player. That's all as far as I can see. At the same time it builds credibility for him and if there is no mafia roleblocker it's a very safe mafia play. That's my only point. I'm not accusing balla of anything but why blindly accept anyone as a town player who is not obzy?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 21:08 GMT

#899

Yeah, that's my point Cake. He's building credibility in the same manner as his last two games. Read a few pages from game 49 and you'll see exactly what I mean. His play is not different. I don't know where this blind acceptance came from that we cannot accuse everyone of being scum.

Vonthin

United States2864 Posts

November 02 2013 21:11 GMT

#900

On November 03 2013 06:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
That's the thing. I'm not pressuring anything with that question. I'm just curious why?

So if we know there's a mafia roleblocker then we learned that we have at least one blue player. That's all as far as I can see. At the same time it builds credibility for him and if there is no mafia roleblocker it's a very safe mafia play. That's my only point. I'm not accusing balla of anything but why blindly accept anyone as a town player who is not obzy?

I don't understand, we can have more than 1 blue player if there is a mafia RB. You still get the message that you got RB if you are Vanilla town. I agree with that fact that we shouldn't blindly accept someone as town unless if they are IC but so far he hasn't done anything yet to make me think he is mafia