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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 19:19 GMT
#861
@balla what makes you think that it was a mafia role blocker? It could be possible it was a town play. If you are telling the truth, about being role blocked that is, i am more inclined to believe as well that it was a mafia role blocker.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 19:20 GMT
#862
Because it's been like 12hrs without a claim
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 02 2013 19:21 GMT
#863
Alright here are some questions for you

1, Why didn't you take your pressure vote off July after he started to post, he didn't look scummy or at least scummy enough to keep the vote on him. I don't blame anyone for voting July but it just seems weird to me you voted for him before he even posted to get posting, and then when he did start posting you didn't take it off.

2. Who else do you think might be scum besides Nyx? At the moment I see you wanting to lynch Nyx as a mafia going after the weakest member of the flock. You said in the past you would work on posting more reads but you never really got around to scum hunting besides Nyx just now

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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 19:22 GMT
#864
On November 03 2013 04:20 Balla24 wrote:
Because it's been like 12hrs without a claim


what claim? and if a town blocked you why would they claim... that just outs a blue role for no reason
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 19:28 GMT
#865
On November 03 2013 04:21 Vonthin wrote:
Alright here are some questions for you

1, Why didn't you take your pressure vote off July after he started to post, he didn't look scummy or at least scummy enough to keep the vote on him. I don't blame anyone for voting July but it just seems weird to me you voted for him before he even posted to get posting, and then when he did start posting you didn't take it off.

2. Who else do you think might be scum besides Nyx? At the moment I see you wanting to lynch Nyx as a mafia going after the weakest member of the flock. You said in the past you would work on posting more reads but you never really got around to scum hunting besides Nyx just now



1. why don't you read my filter and then tell me why. I stated why i didn't move my vote. I could just copy and quote my reasoning, but it seems you didn't bother to read my filter so i wont.

2. I'd like to work on that, want to give me 2 people to start on and then ill tell you my opinion on them? And to say i haven't been posting reads is a lie. Just because i don't say "this person is scum" And as far as "who might be with Nyx" i can't answer that because he seems to be like a black sheep. I can however try and read other people and give my opinion on them. If there are only 2 mafia, and even 3 mafia its still a bit hard to try and nail out the scum team with so many people still alive.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 19:46 GMT
#866
As of right now, Odin has done absolutely nothing. in a few hours it will mark 24 hours with no input on this day.

His day 1 and night cycle, i feel good about it. He is scum hunting, he was called out for lying, but i found his response to be genuine. I would not be comfortable lynching him today. I'm reading him as town.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 02 2013 19:49 GMT
#867
What are your thoughts on OWB and Poofter currently
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 19:49 GMT
#868
On November 03 2013 04:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 04:20 Balla24 wrote:
Because it's been like 12hrs without a claim


what claim? and if a town blocked you why would they claim... that just outs a blue role for no reason


I never actually thought about it that much, but in the past 2 games ive played its been established for that reason. I'm also just assuming its a mafia RB'er because there's literally no reason for a town RB to RB me...

Also, there has been nobody else claiming getting RB'ed, which means there is no counter-claims to me getting mafia RB'ed. So you're right, there's no reason to believe its not a town RB... but it isn't.. it'd be retarded right?
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 02 2013 19:54 GMT
#869
I think it's reasonable to assume it's a mafia RB, because town would only RB Balla if they were reading him as mafia, which - to my understanding - wasn't happening.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#870
I dunno Balla, you're playing the same game you did in the last two games.

Posting actively, pointing attention at players that are not yourself. Actually, your behavior is nearly identical.

Last game you said bereft played the same town as he did in his first game. He was scum, so were you. When I brought up Odin, you said he played the same game he did last game where he was town and you were scum.

Identical arguments.

You said we get information when july flips scum. What's that information?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 02 2013 20:05 GMT
#871
There isn't necessarily a mafia role blocker, correct?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 20:08 GMT
#872
On November 03 2013 04:49 Vonthin wrote:
What are your thoughts on OWB and Poofter currently



Just read his OWB filter. Has yet to post today as well


OWB i'd lynch him today.
Defends Nyx for bad reasons imo on day 1.

So maybe they are linked. Votes of him and Nyx kinda link up on E00e.

However

On November 02 2013 04:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
I know Balla just said to stay focused, but I want to make sure we don't let Vonthin slide under the radar here. We have plenty of time before the next lynch so we can focus really heavily after Day 2 starts

In regards to Vonith, he has been mentioned a few times but never really put forward as a scum candidate. I realize I haven't been the most active poster, but Vonthin has managed even less content and less pro town information. He pushed e00 when he was the main lunch target but then suddenly changed his mind and decides he "wasn't the best target." This was right before the vote train on July had started on July. I realize Vonith had mentioned July as a scum candidate, but his read didn't say anything else that hadn't been said already. All that means is that he was comfortable joining the July train. Then he said he wasn't to hear from Odin before the July lunch through. Seems like he would have been totally okay jumping on that train as well had it gotten going.

So Vonith has sheeped on almost every read and hasn't contributed any original content. Seems pretty scummy to me.


That being said, i do like this post. The intentions behind it.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#873
Bereft was not scum...

My behavior is only identical if you look at it directly. I am doing everything like 3x more at least. I have to be much more careful as scum with my reads, I'm not being careful here. All I'm doing is posting my thoughts as they come to me. But seriously, why are you poking me Jonny...? Doesn't make sense and doesn't fit my read on you... are you still angry? I've tried to move past all that but every time you post it makes it harder for me not to look at you.

If july flipped scum, I would have been almost positive you were scum. Him flipping town gains us less information. But it makes me more certain of you as town. I believe it incriminates Storr at least a little bit since it seems like he randomly picked a lurker, and he left his vote on him throughout almost the entire 48hrs even though there were other cases being brought up. Why wouldn't he be considering other targets? He only starts really posting his reads on night1 after July was dead. Why would he not take his vote off once he sees how weak of a player July is unless he was purposefully picking on a weak player?

There can be more too, but our argument got in the way of discussing the flip and now there is more pressing information like the night actions and current lynch targets...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#874
On November 03 2013 05:05 JonnyLaw wrote:
There isn't necessarily a mafia role blocker, correct?


No... however it is very likely, especially considering I was roleblocked. You need to drop this now...
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#875
Odin's situation is really annoying for me haha. I've liked his recent posts, his latest case had nice logic to it. He really isn't acting scummy. But he can only post in a few rare bursts every once in a while, and since he can't post and respond consistently it's pretty easy for him to hide if he actually is scum. I have a really hard time getting a decent read on him.


Storr, instead of asking for people to talk about, can you find people that you think are scum on your own? Show some initiative please.


I've already posted my thoughts on owb, and they haven't changed since he hasn't posted for quite a while. I can repeat them if someone's too lazy to look through my posts I guess.

Balla, why'd you express disappointment that no cop claimed? Cops shouldn't be claiming start of day 2.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 20:16 GMT
#876
On November 03 2013 05:12 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 05:05 JonnyLaw wrote:
There isn't necessarily a mafia role blocker, correct?


No... however it is very likely, especially considering I was roleblocked. You need to drop this now...


I see no reason to lynch balla to see if he was actually role blocked...
could he be mafia saying this? sure
could he be town saying this? sure

Him flipping would tell us quite a bit regarding if a mafia has a role blocker. I see no point lynching him today, to see if he lied about being role blocked. This information will be available to us when balla flips regardless. He is being far to active in this game while we have far to many inactive players to even consider lynching him today.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 20:19 GMT
#877
Storr thoughts on poofter? vonthin asked you about him too.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 20:20 GMT
#878
Well it's more likely for there to be 1-shot cop then full on cop. If they used their check they should have claimed. This happened game 1. You're right, cops with more checks should probably not come out unless they got a mafia claim. I'm not sure about the cop claim meta in this setup though, so I don't really want to comment more on that until I have more time to think.

More of a underlying false hope I guess since a cop in my games have never gotten a red check yet T_T
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 20:24 GMT
#879
On November 03 2013 05:16 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 05:12 Balla24 wrote:
On November 03 2013 05:05 JonnyLaw wrote:
There isn't necessarily a mafia role blocker, correct?


No... however it is very likely, especially considering I was roleblocked. You need to drop this now...


I see no reason to lynch balla to see if he was actually role blocked...
could he be mafia saying this? sure
could he be town saying this? sure

Him flipping would tell us quite a bit regarding if a mafia has a role blocker. I see no point lynching him today, to see if he lied about being role blocked. This information will be available to us when balla flips regardless. He is being far to active in this game while we have far to many inactive players to even consider lynching him today.


WTF.............................

Are you guys serious right now?

Why aren't you believing me? This is unreal...

Storr this is super scummy to me.... if I even come close to a lynch and i WAS town RB'ed then you will get the town RB to come out. If i was MAFIA RB'ed then nobody will claim and I will get lynched. You even suggesting lynching me is so so so ridiculously weird....
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 20:24 GMT
#880
On November 03 2013 05:19 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Storr thoughts on poofter? vonthin asked you about him too.


nothing yet... doing some other stuff atm ill get back on him latter. happy to see the thread picking up though
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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