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E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 10:08 GMT
#841
I just read that by Vonthin and wanted to clarify: 'He made posts where he says things like "if only my opinion mattered"'.
I meant "if only my opinion mattered" as in if my opinion was the only thing that mattered and not as in I want my opinion to matter more. The if is not related to the only.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 14:03 GMT
#842
On November 02 2013 16:03 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Storr do you think nyx is a good lynch/mafia or not? I can't really tell from your posts, and I find it suspicious how you've been posting the most about him recently but you still haven't expressed a solid opinion on him. You're looking even scummier to me.


Side note: Can you rephrase your post about van's thoughts? I have no clue what you mean by "TBH not much, and kind of expected."


i specifically said why he was a good lynch and why he wasn't a good lynch in one of my posts

So why are you a good lynch? You haven't done anything, you don't actually give reasons beyond a word or a sentence at most. Your not playing for town in my eyes.

Why are you a bad lynch? What will town learn if you flip mafia? (great we hit mafia woot, other than that nothing) what will we learn if you flip town. Nothing...


regarding vans. nyx hasn't said or done much thus vans opinion is little. (he does say vans has done some scummy stuff.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 14:23 GMT
#843
On November 02 2013 16:07 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i think you're clear cakeman, really think Storr's scum right now.

##Vote: StorrZerg

won't be changing for anything



On November 02 2013 16:10 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
btw StorrZerg, +points for impassioned.



You have no idea how much i want to lynch for this crap. You did not respond to a single thing, and you didn't even post anything on why. I'm spending far to much time looking at you and dealing with your nonsense. I honestly can't tell if your bad town or scum from this crap. I have to decide if your worth the lynch when i would rather you be contributing to town. and looking at others. I'm trying so hard to make this not a "well nyx called me mafia so nyx has to be mafia now"





Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 14:24 GMT
#844
anyone else want to talk... think i reached my cap for now on dealing with crap
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 14:41 GMT
#845
@Vonthin
@balla

i had asked your guys opinion on E00e because one of you list him as town, one as mafia, but lack of reasoning.

As for people i wouldn't want to see lynched today. Balla, Vonthin, jonny (yes i know but he is at least contributing, talking, and moving past his blunt nature i would still like to see more from him.)

People that i would be ok with lynching today
nyxnyxnyx for now.

I still want to look for something better. gonna read the filters of owb and odin next when i get the time.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#846
Why are you against Vonthin as a possible lynch candidate Storr? It is just not clear to me from what opinions you and they generally had.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#847
On November 03 2013 00:40 E00e wrote:
Why are you against Vonthin as a possible lynch candidate Storr? It is just not clear to me from what opinions you and they generally had.



he is active, and posting, i see reason to lynch someone who beneficial to town right now. he isn't worth a miss lynch today.
You could be a lynch today, you haven't done anything today to make me think other wise.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 16:37 GMT
#848
On November 02 2013 16:36 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i think it was something i read in the quicktopic about how we should think about why people say the things they do, rather than the things they actually say. you seem ok, not quite sure how to put it in words.


ugh.... don't talk about coaching... its a good thing this is super ambiguous
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 02 2013 16:46 GMT
#849
it was from previous QT under general tips, so i dont see why it would be a spoiler
cool beans
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 16:54 GMT
#850
Storr, who do you think is mafia? You have four pages of filter and not once do you call a single person scum. Closest you come is asking if a person is bad or scum.

Can you stop worrying about "good lynches" in terms of who's not making helpful posts to town? That's not that hard to notice, and we have more quiet-ish people than we have scum. I wanna find and lynch me a mafia. Right now you're high up on my suspect list, because all you're doing is pointing out how town should play or if someone's not playing good town. Sounds like blending in to me without making contributions that help us find scum.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 02 2013 16:54 GMT
#851
kkkkkk good
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#852
While I agree with you Storr about how Nyx's posting has been pretty useless, you just ignore the mine, Ballas and Cakes concerns about you and just attack Nyx. I have some concerns about lynching Nyx, I still think he is a really poor town compared to his posts last game and it is never good to lynch a townie even if it is useless, its just another free kill for mafia.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#853
@E00e

Can you tell me what you think about the rest of my post about you? And also tell me you you think is currently scum? You haven't done much recently and your last 2 posts I don't think help your case to much.
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#854
@von what did you direct at me?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#855
I said this about you

I think Storr might be scum, his filter feels somewhat like OWB to me. He has barely done any reads at all. All he is doing is trying to lead town and blending in. He was the very first person to vote for July, he voted for him as a pressure vote to get him to post since he didn't post yet but never took it off after July started posting which I don't see why cause July didn't seem that scummy at that point. Besides that all he really does is try to lead town but never does any reads or scum hunting himself.



Balla said this

For the second reason: I feel like the mafia leader is someone who is VERY comfortable being in an active town. It's not affecting the mafia team as much as I'd like... this leads me to believe StorrZerg is among the mafia team. IMO, he has the most experience, he often plays in person/on video which is super active and you have to think fast as mafia. I was expecting a LOT more from StorrZerg as a town player... but he's been very VERY underwhelming and is instead choosing to lurk heavily... he's not mentioning a LOT of players and is constantly questioning Jonny and I..

I also think that he will be less experienced with the roleblocker role, although this might be completely false, but the show he plays on and the crowd he plays with generally never use the roleblocker role. Notice how he puts light pressure on me at the beginning of day2, right after I've been roleblocked as if he's trying to hint that i'm not town when generally being roleblocked (with no claims) is a surefire way of confirming a townie.



Cake said this

I agree that Storr doesn't look very good atm. I don't know quite what to think about the comfort with activity argument because I've never read anything like it before, but Storr really hasn't been posting opinions on a lot of people. Even now, he's had far more posts talking about how town should be acting than about who he thinks is scum. Since his reads on me and July he's only talked about Nyx.

I feel like if he actually wanted something town-favored done, he could have been finding scum rather than just directing town around.




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E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 19:02 GMT
#856
@Vonthin
The first part of your post is just factual from your point of view. So the things that is left is that I use my feelings more than reasoning in accusations. This is correct. I have a hard time finding evidence but I do get scummy feelings about other players. I should try to find out why exactly I get these feelings but it is not easy.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#857
On November 03 2013 04:02 E00e wrote:
@Vonthin
The first part of your post is just factual from your point of view. So the things that is left is that I use my feelings more than reasoning in accusations. This is correct. I have a hard time finding evidence but I do get scummy feelings about other players. I should try to find out why exactly I get these feelings but it is not easy.


This still isn't helping much in your case of being town, you haven't had many scum reads in a long time that weren't just feelings and had any good questions to people about being scum, you really need to start being useful and post stuff instead of saying I need to try to find out why I get these feelings.
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 19:11 GMT
#858
You realize i didn't respond to your post, because it was your opinion. I don't need to defend myself on a thought, when your not actually attacking me. If you want me to respond to that, next time ask me a question.


I responded and thrashed nyx because he directly attacked and voted on me with poor reasoning. and i would even say he was trying to push a "comfortable lynch because of his 1st point,

1. vote has popular traction and is likely to take off without dividing town opinion




Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 02 2013 19:12 GMT
#859
Storr why do you want to lynch nyx? I mean he's not contributing anything so it's not a terrible plan but it feels like another crap shoot.

He calls me town after I waste everyone's time and clog up the thread for multiple pages arguing with obzy and balla. I don't like this at all.

He says he's bad at the game and goes on a feeling voting for you. That seems very sloppy if it's mafia play. Some people do not express themselves eloquently. I mean, there's just not much to go on with this read.

He's not the worst candidate for lynching. I'm going to reread a bit and see if someone stands out as a better choice.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 19:17 GMT
#860
I've said why he is a good lynch and why he could be bad. Personally, i'd like to go look at someone else right now
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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