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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 31 2013 22:49 GMT
#575
the only person we could possible swing would be OdinOfPergo, doubtful on E00e cuase we would need 5 people
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 31 2013 23:10 GMT
#577
nah apparently i haven't posted any opinions at all
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 31 2013 23:13 GMT
#578
To little time to switch a vote no, we should stick with july, we need someone to switch.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 31 2013 23:16 GMT
#581
your right, vanesco switched

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 31 2013 23:27 GMT
#586
On November 01 2013 07:42 July617 wrote:
I'm building a case give me a few .



On November 01 2013 08:16 July617 wrote:
Yeah , i've got nothing . Sorry for being a shitty town guys ,



shitty town maybe or mafia giving up

if your town, you need to give us something before you die. probably one of the worst things you can do is tell us your building a case (which we have no idea what this means) and then to say you have nothing

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 00:56 GMT
#643
On November 01 2013 09:11 JonnyLaw wrote:
Okay, now that's over lets move on.

I asked a question earlier which you all ignored.

@everyone Who would you pick to lynch tomorrow if you have seven votes

Storr effectively shut down that question without anyone answering when there was a lot of time remaining.

I want this answer and I want some substance out of storrzerg. Odin, I still want to lynch you. Never fear that changing until I see something real out of you.


think the the purpose of the question you asked...
it makes no sense
you might as well ask if you could vigi someone who would it be
or more realistically who would you vote...
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 01:51 GMT
#668
On November 01 2013 10:23 JonnyLaw wrote:
I want people to answer that question so I can see where people stand individually instead of with someone as a shield for them. Is is that hard to see?

It's easy to say let's lynch odin, oh no obzy is right let's lynch july. Where do the rest of the july lynch train stand on the next lynch?

It's a simple question. I appreciate your answer and sorry I missed it.


again asking people for their reasons why they think someone is town or scum does the exact same thing....
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 04:27 GMT
#684
On November 01 2013 12:52 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
yay i wasn't on the wrongwagon! i would think one of the people who voted July is scum, and possibly also include other early-voters-who-went-inactive-before-deadline (sadly includes me)


O_o not on the wrongwagon?

On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.



hmm gonna make some reads O_o

On October 31 2013 04:07 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
if i'm getting this right, the vote ends in 5 hours and i have to vote someone.

##Vote: E00e

E00e hasn't said much so far, just a placeholder vote in lieu of better options, since i don't think cake or Van are scum after all.


doesn't seem to have a personal read on E00e but puts the vote down here.

Now we have this change of vote

On October 31 2013 23:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
once again this is a situation where timezones have a real effect. it's now 10 hours to deadline and we don't really have a clear consensus on who to vote for. i'll be around for a bit more but then i'll have to go to sleep before the rest of you guys scramble to vote in the last few hours.

i don't like how tehpoofter posts. minus the inactivity thing, he posts a lot more when called to defend himself and makes minimal probes on others, as if he doesn't want to overplay his hand and accidentally reveal something. as such, my vote will be for him right now.

##Vote: Tehpoofter


10 hours a head of time
his first real opinion on someone being voted

On November 01 2013 02:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:


poofter has more content posted compared to E00e, who had close to nothing at the time of my vote for him. i don't like odin this game, jonny seems fine to me. do not like July either.




On November 01 2013 03:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
majority lynch would make lynching someone even harder come day 2. should just try and get lucky day 1. it's about bed time for me so i'm going back to my original vote for E00e just because it seems like the vote most likely to go through and i'm okay with that.

##Vote: E00e


Another change, no real opinion on E00e other than "most likely to go through" , even though he had a much stronger opinion on Tehpoofter imo.


And then finally

On November 01 2013 05:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i actually believe E00e. let's just say i woke up at 4am for a reason and maybe it's to save you E00e.

##unvote

##Vote: OdinOfPergo




Now obviously nyxnyxnyx was not around during the end of the voting. Personally i don't think you have been trying nyxnyxnyx in putting down your opinions on why your voting the way your going. You have quiet few posts for really no input.


Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 04:52 GMT
#692
my point is nyxnyxnyx you say one thing "ill try and do better with reads and not be inactive" when it seems like your doing exactly the opposite, lack of reads specially on how your voting, and lack of activity
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 04:56 GMT
#694
On November 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote:
@obzy I think Odin was 100% worth a day one lynch and YOU, no one else are responsible for not letting it happen.

I asked you specifically what we need to do in order to lynch Odin and you didn't respond. You're town and you messed up. I don't know if he's worth pursuing beyond day one. We'll see soon. Day one we have a 25% chance of not killing a town player, 33% if you're counting in an SK. That's exactly why I said he's a detriment alive and he's a detriment dead. I explained this and you used it as a counter argument against my case and you lynched july.

If you guys want to waste time evaluating me, then do it. Say something so we can move on. No one else has brought a case against a player then entire game except "he's not saying a lot." Do something.



Ill be honest with you jonny, if you spent more time trying to convince people that odin was a better vote, instead of asking people bad questions "who would you vote for if you controlled the 7 votes" the vote could have gone to odin. Don't blame this on obzy. Your lack of ability to help swing votes is just as much to blame as Obzy as the IC.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 05:16 GMT
#700
On November 01 2013 13:59 Balla24 wrote:
Holy shit yes Storr.

Unfortunately, I couldn't see anything else that Jonny could possibly have picked on though, so even though he might have been a good lynch, him being away through his entire accusation certainly makes it hard to gain anything new.


ill be honest, i think jonny had enough to convince me to go to odin, hell imo he had better reasons than myself going on july.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 05:42 GMT
#704
On November 01 2013 14:27 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 14:16 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 01 2013 13:59 Balla24 wrote:
Holy shit yes Storr.

Unfortunately, I couldn't see anything else that Jonny could possibly have picked on though, so even though he might have been a good lynch, him being away through his entire accusation certainly makes it hard to gain anything new.


ill be honest, i think jonny had enough to convince me to go to odin, hell imo he had better reasons than myself going on july.


Like what? I don't agree with this at all.. please elaborate.



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&currentpage=21#403

Quick summary. Odin is all over the place. He blatantly contradicts himself and pressures, then votes cake who will clearly not be lynched if he read the thread. He skimmed the posts and formed general opinions because he doesn't give a fuck who gets lynched. By his own admission he won't be here for another 24 hrs. So we have a spamming lurker on our hands. Kill the bastard.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 05:47 GMT
#705
On November 01 2013 14:16 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 13:52 StorrZerg wrote:
my point is nyxnyxnyx you say one thing "ill try and do better with reads and not be inactive" when it seems like your doing exactly the opposite, lack of reads specially on how your voting, and lack of activity


if you compare to last game i'm doing a lot more. better is relative, my friend

talking about broken promises, i recall you were advocating a tighter game by towns, but you seem all over the place yourself. coulda condensed a lot of those 'reads' you had on me into one simple sentence, rather than a long post that serves no purpose. are you scum, storr?


hardly breaking 10 posts for a 48 hour cycle with only 2 posts of some kind opinion, yet 3-4 vote swaps.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 05:51 GMT
#706
On November 01 2013 14:16 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 13:52 StorrZerg wrote:
my point is nyxnyxnyx you say one thing "ill try and do better with reads and not be inactive" when it seems like your doing exactly the opposite, lack of reads specially on how your voting, and lack of activity


if you compare to last game i'm doing a lot more. better is relative, my friend

talking about broken promises, i recall you were advocating a tighter game by towns, but you seem all over the place yourself. coulda condensed a lot of those 'reads' you had on me into one simple sentence, rather than a long post that serves no purpose. are you scum, storr?


what do are you looking for? I was advocating a lynch and very persistent that we got 7 people on someone. That happened. I tried to give town focus on 3 possible lynches. I gave my opinion.

you saying the post is "long" and has "no purpose" w/e

i posted it like that, so people could follow my train of thought. I didn't have a lot of fluff in my post. I had direct quotes of you, a sentence or two and an ending.


Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#757
"so transparent you voted for him?"

idk ill just refer to what i said earlier, if you spent more time trying to push for odin instead of silly questions, maybe something different would have happened.

awaiting your reads
well have some more information in a few hours as well
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 00:14 GMT
#770
my assumption is that scum went role hunting


gonna read his filter now
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#776
On November 02 2013 09:20 Obzy wrote:
Imo Van almost certainly got killed because scum were trying to bluesnipe. Storr, why did you come to the same conclusion?


I'm actually reconsidering that now as i'm reading vans filter
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 01:27 GMT
#777
Yeah, after reading the filter i personally didn't feel anything "blue" about him. He read as a strong town that was actively pushing objectives. I'm not advocating we follow his dieing words exactly, but i think its a great start to how we should look to pressure today.

also imo
posting a list of the names, and "town" or "scum" "idk" with out any reasons isn't necessarily good thing. it really doesn't help town and its pretty easy to do as mafia, and kind of "slide" with "lists"

if you are going to give a list, a sentence or two on each person would really be beneficial
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 01:42 GMT
#779
@JonnyLaw and @cakemanofdoom looks like you are going to have a lot of pressure put your way, Not looking for you guys to defend yourselves exactly, but i am looking for some good content.

atm jonny, i was leaning more towards you just pushing bad ideas, but still wanting to do good for town. (although your post that july was obviously town seemed a bit bad to me and i called you out on that) as far as your alignment before the night kill happened, i don't think i would have pressured a vote on you.

and cake, i defend you earlier, however I'll need to reread your filter.

@ Vonthin you have 9 and 10 listed with no names.

also again "lists"
@vonthin you list E00e as scummy and @Balla24 you list him as town. could you guys go into more detail why.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 02 2013 01:57 GMT
#784
Like to point out for the july lynch, Vanesco was the deciding vote (he was the 7th person to go onto july)
This being the deciding vote on the lynch, and we know Vanesco was town this imo is a good thing.

I do believe that town had good intentions on the lynch, we decided to group up on a lynch. I do believe it was a town lead lynch (i helped lead the lynch with the initial vote.)

@onlywonderboy, correct me if i'm wrong, you had been unable to change your vote closer to the deadline correct? Will you be active during the next lynch closer to the dead line?

Odin is the 8th, he goes from Cake, to JonnyLaw, to July



Jonny is the last vote, who goes from vans (poor accusation that gets shot down), to odin, and then to july (who he knew was obviously town)

My question to odin and especially jonny is "why did you guys switch when the vote was locked?" imo it was pretty clear that july was going to get lynched specially when jonny switched unless july claimed a blue role. and if he didn't claim, and someone switched off him, it would look super scummy yes? So why did you two feel the need to put your vote on and specially @jonny complain about it after?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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