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Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 00:26 GMT

#581

On November 02 2013 08:47 Stutters695 wrote:
##Unvote
##vote: Mkfuba07

I really didn't want to do this because I like the points against Hz and Fuba will be easy to read as it goes on, but I'll give this a shot.

Can you explain this this is such a sketchy post.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 00:35 GMT

#583

I mean why not address others' arguments, we had 10 minutes left when you "gave up"

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 01:04 GMT

#585

Okay I will give Stutters a town read for now, though not definitive.

His posts are consistent. And he's posting a lot compared to what he usually does as scum.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 03:41 GMT

#589

That would go the same for Tehpoofter, except even more for him really probably.

I think they both have a slight town read, for now.

It is entirely possible scum just gave up tuba and bussed him, so really Jack, me, and Grack are the only confirmed towns as I think it's really really unlikely for JarJar to just help bus his teammate.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 03:41 GMT

#590

I'm looking at thread now, but you're giving me a town read hzflank even ignoring the lynch

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 04:37 GMT

#597

I think you're pretty clear for the moment. I was going to say we can't be sure that you're not scum, but I've been thinking about it. Reading thread, you were like one of the guys who kept pushing discussion forward. That's really town. Furthermore, both scum voting each other?

If it goes on for longer then 5 days and you're still alive, town should reconsider you with new evidence of course.

Town or should ignore:

LaughingJack
LaughingJack had a fine day one. Based on the limited information day one provides, and with him being absent during the ending lynch, I give him a town read. His reads/analysis/posts were fine.

Bereft
I like Bereft for now. I do not at all in like how he was AFK during the last moments of the lynch, but he did advocate and start the RNG lynch. I think starting a true RNG lynch is so dangerous for scum, because you have to keep advocating it even if you hit scum. And what if it takes off? Now it's possible they just push a scum RNG less severely then a town RNG, but it puts things out of their hands.
Bereft for now shouldn't be the lynch for tomorrow and instead town should analyze him more. Least likely out of all of these to be town.

Stutters
I can't but help Stutters being town. Like he had a pretty good scum/town meta of barely posting. But like hz said, him posting when he doesn't have to really I think is an indicator of his alignment this game.

I guess him also pushing it over the breaking point is another townie point, though I don't rule it out of the question scum just outright bussed him. Should not be lynched tomorrow

Odin
Fourth vote on scum fuba. Town

On November 02 2013 07:25 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I didn't like your early post. I'm still not sure how I feel about them now. But at least they are there. Fuba doesn't really put a lot of effort into it. He probably wasn't too worried because I'm pretty sure half the people in this thread expected me to get modkilled. It would of been harder to swing a vote off pandain and or you if myself and hermaene are modkilled.

Definitive, leaves little leaving out of it

Mig
His early posts, although those were really his only posts, were good. Basically he seems reasonable, but we haven't seen his true intentions yet in actions because he was gone day one. Should ignore for now unless something notable happens day two.

Can't read:

Oats: He talked about whether he is bad or not for a whole bunch of the thread. I can't read him.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 04:38 GMT

#598

I absolutely agree Asinine is scum as shit

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 04:38 GMT

#599

At least compared to everyone else, analysis upcoming.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 04:57 GMT

#601

I was going to make a long post, but ultimately here it is, spam free.

Asinine has come out of day one being by far the most objective scummy person. Not only in that he defended fuba, but how he did. He came out of nowhere to make a huge post + Show Spoiler +

On November 02 2013 07:49 Asinine wrote:
Why I do not like the fuba case:
Reason #1
This is the first post that brings up fuba in any regard:

Show nested quote +

In sum, hzflank is saying
1) Fuba has a slight scum read on hzflank
but...
2) is very confident in voting him
Therefore, this disconnect makes fuba scum.

However, this accusation is cherry-picking information from fuba's post!
Fuba's post:

Show nested quote +

See: bold
hzflank conveniently left out the part where fuba substantiates his read on hzflank. The bolded quote should be reason enough for a townie to vote a scum read. Ultimately, the vote is justified by that bolded statement. When you see the quote in its full context, the part about RNG is clearly mentioned as an aside, not as a primary argument.

Reason #2:
The other people voting for fuba do not make any compelling arguments.

Pandain is the only one who brought up actual evidence, but only did so after he had voted for fuba. In essence, Pandain did exactly what hzflank is accusing fuba of doing. He voted a slight scum read and then expressed his overt confidence in that read later on. If hzflank was consistent in his reasoning, he would be voting Pandain right now(or at the very least pressuring him).

Grack seems to be buddying Pandain and vice-versa. So far, I have not seen a single useful post out of him.

Odin sounds like he hasn't completely caught up to the thread. Again, a vote with no real reasoning.

Reason #3:
The votes have piled up far too quickly for my liking. Not much to go into here.

I don't like any of the people voting fuba and I don't like the reasons they gave for voting fuba.

defending Tuba with reasons that he later admitted to be wrong. When it become 7-3, with 10 minuets still to go, he gave up and changed his entire playstyle.

On November 02 2013 08:50 Asinine wrote:
Alright. I hope we can lynch hz tomorrow. Time to wait for flip!

On November 02 2013 08:51 Asinine wrote:
That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post.

On November 02 2013 08:57 Asinine wrote:

On November 02 2013 09:01 Asinine wrote:
Where is the night post!!!!

Which is weird not only in that he accepts the lynch, but he changed his entire demeanor. Before he was all cool and tactical, but after the lynch was in Fuba's favor he became one-liner esque and "towny". Totally off-putting.

On November 02 2013 09:03 Asinine wrote:
I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy.

Horrible as well.

On November 02 2013 09:12 Asinine wrote:
Oh right, Stutters unvoted as well as voted. Fair enough. I still think he should be looked into, along with tehpoofter,

Posting without actual thinking = scum bullshit?

He could be town but he's too scummy to ignore tbh.

A vig should shoot him ideally

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 05:02 GMT

#602

The problem is that every game I've played in we've always said "vig's, shoot this person!"
And it has never happened

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 18:08 GMT

#613

I don't think bereft is that suspicious now like I said advocating random lynch can be scary to do

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 18:13 GMT

#616

I don't like how he just gave up, his demeanor change, and his brashness to try to cast suspicion on others immediately following lynch

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 18:13 GMT

#617

I also don't like he gave Fuba a null read. He seemed to change his stance on Fuba several times

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 18:44 GMT

#626

The problem is bus reasons were pretty crappy to defend asinine. His reasons for you were bordering okay but again scum can be reasonable. I don't like how all his posts are to save Fuba and then he just gives up when it became obvious

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 18:44 GMT

#627

His*

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 18:45 GMT

#628

*defend fuba

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 19:49 GMT

#634

I like Jack.

On October 31 2013 23:19 Laughing Jack wrote:
I think we should be one Jarjar less at the end of this day.
##Vote: JarjarDrinks

Very bold and draws suspicions to himself. Don't think most scum would do this though it isn't out of the question. I thought it was a joke post but later he defends himself, which leads me to think he's town in that he literally doesn't give a fuck(at the time) about explaining his read further.

I actually do like how he stopped the Grack-Oats debate even though I thought it was scummy at the time. Looking at it nothing came of it, and nothing probably would have.

On November 01 2013 17:52 Laughing Jack wrote:

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Cool, and why would you want to see them spotlighted over others?
I think Odin is a terrible pick really. Since he's not been around, why did you pick him?

I love how he says Odin is a terrible pick because he hasn't posted yet.

He's been putting a whole bunch of effort into the game two, which makes me think he's town.

And finally, even though it's suspicious

On November 02 2013 07:57 Laughing Jack wrote:
##Unvote:
##Vote: hzflank

It's still ballsy to do as scum.

Basically do not lynch tomorrow.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 20:04 GMT

#635

If I had to guess, it would be Asinine and the replacement.

The rest of the players don't seem that scummy. Although there are some like Oats who I can't read.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 20:06 GMT

#637

Has anyone played with Mig before? Know his playstyle.

He says he's played with me before but I don't remember him at all

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2013 20:08 GMT

#638

Oh what wow.
That changes everything.