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On November 02 2013 08:14 hzflank wrote:
But the votes are 4/4/3 and Stutters is not voting. Why is Pandain not a lynch target, for you?
It doesn't matter I suppose, your position is that you want me lynched so there might as well be only one target.
I don't think Pandain is scum. I was saying that by your own logic, you should think Pandain is scum. I was wrong about that bit regarding Pandain anyway. Did you read my EBWOP?
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On November 02 2013 08:19 Pandain wrote:
Can you explain why you think hzflank didn't address your questions?
There were two posts of questions directed towards hzflank.
First post:
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 09:31 hzflank wrote:
Stutters posting when he does not have to is a town Stutters. That is exactly what mafia Stutters would want you to think. Why label Stutters as town and leave the thread? We are trying to find scum, not tell scum who is town. Your post serves no greater purpose other than to gain Stutters' support.
He answered this.
I then asked him this:
On October 31 2013 13:31 Asinine wrote:Bereft, I want to know how exactly you arrived at the 25% number. Scumhunting will increase odds of hitting scum to a percentage far greater than that. Please explain. Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town
As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly. Your post:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 09:31 hzflank wrote:
Stutters posting when he does not have to is a town Stutters. It is quite apparent that you were trying to bait Stutters into posting. This is not what I take issue with. My issue is that your first post is stated as a fact and an imperative. In other words, you are essentially saying that Stutters should post -- when he doesn't have to -- and you will automatically consider him town. Now this may not be what you wanted to say, but it is exactly what it sounds like you are saying to any third-party. "Come out to play, Stutters! If you post a lot, I won't think you're scum." I don't see much town motivation in this strategy. Yes, you may get Stutters to post a little more. This, in theory, should give you town cred. However, you are quite clearly choosing one of the most obvious lynchbait targets to talk about on Day 1. Additionally, after Stutters reply, you just disappear with no follow-up. When you return, you make a lengthy post that focuses on defending yourself. There is a wishy-washy accusation towards me, but it is weak and unsubstantiated. You are also strong-arming Stutters to play a particular way that could make his meta harder to read in the long run. All in all, I am still unimpressed with you. Convince me otherwise.
...and went to bed.
When I woke up and read the thread, I found that he had not answered this post. That is why I said hzflank has not answered my questions.
He has answered them since, but I have deemed his answers unsatisfactory.
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On November 02 2013 08:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Do something Pandas! Our lynch is losing steam.
Can you do something useful? If you are town and you really think fuba is scum, why don't you make a case or post some evidence?
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On November 02 2013 08:30 Pandain wrote:
His response is even better.
You read way too much into that one liner. That he's trying to bait Stutters into posting? What?
You say town shouldn't find other town, that's completely wrong especially in a mini. I also labeled Grack as town with no written reasons, what about that? You're assuming he's trying to lead Stutters into doing something when that is clearly not his intention
How can you speak for hzflank's intentions? You are also bringing up points that are somewhat outdated in light of new evidence.
I agree that my initial case on hzflank was not particularly strong. However, his method of dealing with my accusations is extremely revealing. Consider our back and forth interplay. Consider the tone of his posts. Consider the blatant cherry-picking that he did to form a case on fuba. It all points to scum.
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On November 02 2013 08:36 Pandain wrote:
No it doesn't at all. People post differently then you. You blandly saying it seems constructed is a horrible reason to justify lynching a three page poster over a three post poster.
I don't know what's taking you so long to answer these, but you're playing so weird right now with horrible reasoning. Are you tunneled right now? How can you justify lynching the second most active person?
I don't lynch by post count. I lynch by scumminess. If that's the best argument you've got to defend hzflank, then I rest my case.
I am also not tunneled. Had the lynch been between Odin and fuba, I may very well choose fuba to lynch. Fuba isn't exactly a shining beacon of towniness. However, hzflank is the most likely to flip scum.
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On November 02 2013 08:41 OdinOfPergo wrote:
i cant't think the fact asinine having to fight fuba's stance for him 20 mins before the deadline is scummy?
I've been here for two hours. Try again.
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On November 02 2013 08:41 Pandain wrote:
If migz comes back he should help us and realize it's bad move to lynch hz.
Here's a question for Asinine: Ignoring hz, do you think tuba is suspicious?
I'd put him at null. Him being a lurker pushes him over the edge, though. I would say he is a good lynch in nearly all other "matchups" aside from this particular one. (vs. hzflank)
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@hzflank
Let's assume you are town for a moment. How would you lynch as of right now?
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Alright. I hope we can lynch hz tomorrow. Time to wait for flip!
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That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post.
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Pandain, you realize that if fuba flips town, these posts make you look bad, right?
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Where is the night post!!!!
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I officially forgive Pandain for being an asshole.
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I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy.
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On November 02 2013 09:06 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 09:03 Asinine wrote:
I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy. You will put the guy who was almost lynched instead of the scum on the backburner, while you lynch the guy who dropped the hammer on the scum?
Check again, Stutter's vote was extraneous and was only placed after it was obvious that fuba would die.
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Oh right, Stutters unvoted as well as voted. Fair enough. I still think he should be looked into, along with tehpoofter,
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On November 02 2013 09:25 Pandain wrote:
Asinine you thought hz was scum. Why not push him, try to convince others, why were you only focusing on me.
I don't know what you are talking about. I never focused on you. I was pushing hzflank.
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I fully endorse a vig shot on me. If I don't get vigged, everyone will be wasting their time accusing me on Day 2. I would much rather have a productive Day 2 that focuses on finding scum. We are off to a great start and I think we can afford my death.
Since I'm expecting to be vigged, I'll post a few reads that you guys can work with after my flip.
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On November 03 2013 06:09 Pandain wrote:
And to be honest I don't think there are going to be many better vig shots.
Knowing Asinine's alignment greatly helps with rest of thread.
I wholeheartedly agree.
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