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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On November 01 2013 22:30 Laughing Jack wrote: I think trying to claim false towncred is suspicious. It's not something I come around about. However I reconsidered lynching you today since you might just be newbie-town and you're at least somewhat active. What do you mean about trying to claim false towncred ? | ||
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Laughing Jack
Finland50 Posts
On November 01 2013 22:47 Oatsmaster wrote: So are you lynching him because he is scum, or are you lynching him because regardless of the flip, he will provide info. Info that I have no idea about. That so far you have adequately explain. I'll try to break it down as simply as I can. If you lynch a scummy player you have a higher chance to lynch mafia then if you lynch a nonscummy player. If you lynch a player many players have interacted with, knowing his alignment gives generate more information then knowing the alignmentof a player few have interacted with. This can very roughly give you these scenarios ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xo4RyB1.png) what you do then is compare the factors. (A) How much higher chance does 'wherebugsgo' have to flip mafia then 'marvellosity' and (B)How much more information will lynching 'wherebugsgo' provide compared to lynching 'marvellosity' if the difference in (A) is marginal and the difference in (B) is significant it's better to lynch the person that will generate most information from (B). | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
Odin and hermeane haven't posted anything so they should probably be exempt. Mig and fuba have like 2 posts each. And they both went after hzflank which seemed like an easy bandwagon @ the time tehpoofter, Pandain, Bereft and Asinine can't have posted much either. I'm gonna go through their filters now. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
The evidence against hzflank is unquestionably circumstantial but that being said it is still better than anything else I have seen. His point against mkfuba is solid enough but he only began to actually scumhunt once there was pressure on him and Oats directly told him to. It isn't enough for me to erase my earlier suspicions. hzflank besides mkfuba who are you suspicious of? What do you think about Oats/grack/myself? tehpoofter/Bereft/mkfuba really need to give their opinions. Just give your opinion on anything. Pandain is also useless but when I played with him before (a year ago or so) he was useless in pretty much every game I played with him as well, so meh. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On November 01 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: So, I think we should lynch a lurker. There's like 7 of em so odds are pretty good that there's scum among em. Odin and hermeane haven't posted anything so they should probably be exempt. Mig and fuba have like 2 posts each. And they both went after hzflank which seemed like an easy bandwagon @ the time tehpoofter, Pandain, Bereft and Asinine can't have posted much either. I'm gonna go through their filters now. Rest of the lurkers: Tehpoofters posts might as well not exist. He speaks out against random lynching because "there can be more logical reasons generated from a flowing conversation but in the days beyond as well" which is pretty obvious as was stated by others. The thing is. he hasn't tried to generate or even participate in any flowing conversations. There is literally zero content in any of his posts. Pandain similiarly doesn't have much content in his posts though there is some I suppose. His vote for oats is strange. He's claiming it's wierd that oats is posting so much. I'm not sure why he thinks that's scummy Bereft has few post but I think they actually have content in them. Though I'm not crazy about him trying to spearhead the RNG lynch. Asinine gets my vote for towniest lurker. He goes after hzflank like Mig and fuba do but I think he that was before the bandwagon started to form. He really seems to want to engage hzflank. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Oatsmaster(2): Pandain(2): hzflank(2): JarJarDrinks(1): Laughing Jack mkfuba07(1): hzflank Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched. The deadline is at 00:00 GMT (+00:00) in . | ||
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Asinine
Qatar66 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 01 2013 23:52 Mig wrote: Oats what do you think about Grack? Is this in line with his town meta? Is he normally this aggressive as mafia? The evidence against hzflank is unquestionably circumstantial but that being said it is still better than anything else I have seen. His point against mkfuba is solid enough but he only began to actually scumhunt once there was pressure on him and Oats directly told him to. It isn't enough for me to erase my earlier suspicions. hzflank besides mkfuba who are you suspicious of? What do you think about Oats/grack/myself? tehpoofter/Bereft/mkfuba really need to give their opinions. Just give your opinion on anything. Pandain is also useless but when I played with him before (a year ago or so) he was useless in pretty much every game I played with him as well, so meh. Yeah im pretty sure Grack is aggressive as both alignments. Now that I think about it though, I dont know if he is the right lynch for today. I wanna see if he detunnels off of me and see his OTHER reads besides me. I dont know them, and its worrying. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Fuba usually is a low post, high analysis player. That analysis is non-existent in his vote on Hz. If memory serves he usually has no problem saying he doesn't know until he is certain someone is scum. I'm at work, phone posting, so I can't check past games. This does remind me far too much of Basterd Mini where he struggled to push anyone (as scum) who wasn't actually scum because he struggles finding reasons. Consequently, he lurked a lot d1 until he had stuff to weigh in on during massive posts. The only reason I'm not pushing him 100% right now is if he is really busy he wouldn't have a lot of time and I can't remember any games off the top of my head on how he played in one where he was limited on time. Anyone experienced with him want to weigh in on that? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 02 2013 01:13 Grackaroni wrote: You can't be that worried Oats. I've given more information than anyone else in town. And? Are we playing, I just wanna be better than the rest of the town? I thought we were playing mafia. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On November 02 2013 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote: And? Are we playing, I just wanna be better than the rest of the town? I thought we were playing mafia. Why are you more concerned about that for me than other players? It amuses me that it's concerning to you that you don't know all of my reads when I think my reads are pretty open on players that are actually doing anything that can be alignment indicative. Most other players are not this way. Take Mig for instance. All I know of his reads is that he gained nothing of interest from the thread and is going through with the circumstantial hzflank push. He asks many questions, yet he rarely adds in his own opinions. You want to kill that guy? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 01 2013 23:52 Mig wrote: hzflank besides mkfuba who are you suspicious of? What do you think about Oats/grack/myself? They are easy targets, but I think the fact that Odin and Poofter and actively playing another game but are absent in this one is suspicious. If they don't get involved then I will certainly consider voting for them. I don't want to vote for Oats today. The main point against Oats is that he is so good that he should of read a statement as too scummy to be scum. This holds absolutely no weight for me, as with an experienced player like Oats it has nothing to do with how good he is at spotting scum, but instead is based on what sort of thing looks scummy to Oats. I can believe that Oats genuinely thought that JJD was scum when he did. I don't want to vote for Grack either. In a slow game such as this there is no real need for scum to post as much as Grack has. I have minor disagreements with some of Grack's points but that does not make him scum. On the initial read I obviously did not like your (Mig's) first post as I did not agree with either point. Initially I thought that those points were from scum looking for something to post about (particularly due to the timing), but upon further consideration I could see how they could be genuine. Your prod towards Poofter put me slightly at ease, as it showed that you were at least following thoroughly (Poofter was the right person to make that comment towards at the time of the post). Your last post then makes me think that you are probably scum, for the same reason that I think Fuba is scum. On November 01 2013 23:52 Mig wrote: The evidence against hzflank is unquestionably circumstantial but that being said it is still better than anything else I have seen. His point against mkfuba is solid enough In one sentence you say that the evidence against me is circumstantial and that my point against mkfuba is solid. Yet in that same sentence you also say that the evidence against me is the best that you have seen so far. Therefore, you are acting as if you believe that circumstantial is better than solid. There are only two reasons that you would do that. Either your play is slightly dictated by the fact that you want your initial read to be correct, or you are scum. I think that scum is more likely. Still, you have posted more than Fuba and we are in a game with several lurkers. That is not really enough to make me move my vote from Fuba to you, at the moment. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 02 2013 01:51 Grackaroni wrote: Why are you more concerned about that for me than other players? It amuses me that it's concerning to you that you don't know all of my reads when I think my reads are pretty open on players that are actually doing anything that can be alignment indicative. Most other players are not this way. Take Mig for instance. All I know of his reads is that he gained nothing of interest from the thread and is going through with the circumstantial hzflank push. He asks many questions, yet he rarely adds in his own opinions. You want to kill that guy? All I know of your recent reads is that you think JJD is town. Jack is an annoying asshole, and Oats is scum. I guess Hzflank is also leanign scum for you. I wanna know MORE. MORE. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On November 02 2013 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote: All I know of your recent reads is that you think JJD is town. Jack is an annoying asshole, and Oats is scum. I guess Hzflank is also leanign scum for you. I wanna know MORE. MORE. Unfortunately I don't want to tell you more. Most of these players are all null anyway. You want to kill Mig? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 02 2013 01:59 Grackaroni wrote: Unfortunately I don't want to tell you more. Most of these players are all null anyway. You want to kill Mig? No not really. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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