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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:46 LastArgument wrote: Cephiro, 3 questions. Do you think with one post you demonstrated to town that you care about finding a lynch? Do you think we should be able to read you as town from your one post? Is it unreasonable for town to find someone suspicious who doesn't care or is involved with town? If the answer to any of these questions is No, you need to stop ranting and look and push for a good lynch The thing is, as far as I know, we're playing Mafia, not "Post-the-most". I think I did a fairly reasonable post that can be seen as a genuine town interest in the game. I explained my own opinions, statements and behavior, as well as gave some reads and reasoning to them. I do agree the less content to go by, the harder it is to read. But I also think that little, contentful posts are better than constantly posting useless fluff. But it seems that someone wanted to paint it as fluff, and what would be easier for scum after seeing a good post to just ignore it completely, claiming it as fluff = Leaving that person looking like he has done nothing at all. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote: Well at least ur posting Ceph. I've been discussing the claim with Toad in QT and it does kinda seem like the claim is better for mafia than for town, so I can see why palmar feels like a Policy lynch is reasonable here. However I'm not with it because if he is town he is doing what I would have done (claimed SAM). Are you trying to argue that this makes palmar scum? Well the stupid thing is. Palmar gives two reasons why I could claim. Eitehr low confidence as town; or scum for amazing benefits. When in my response to him, i indicated I had low confidence. I got fuckn railed during Noir for poor play. So yes, confidence was low 48hrs ago. Not so anymore. I can agree with him. If i felt the way I do now; I probably wouldnt have claimed. Its moot anyways. As I said to Toad in the QT/thread. Judge me for how I am acting this game. If you think I am pushing a scum agenda, build a case. Same goes for Palmar. I suppose he at least has the balls to call it a policy lynch, and nothing more. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:48 Cephiro wrote: 1. This guy has no idea what and how much I have posted in the QT. I have posted very little in the QT, which of most were the rage posts directed mainly at rayn. But for some reason, this is still a valid scumtell. Because guis, I posted so freaking much in the QT. SO MUCH. I POSTED THERE EVERY TIME YOU BLINKED AN EYE. And hey, guess what. THE QT MIGHT BE HEAVILY INFLUENCED WITH SCUM???? No FUCKING SHIT. Guess what, this thread has a whopping 6 SCUM PLAYERS IN IT. WE ARE ALL BEING INFLUENCED BY SCUM?!?!? 4 small cases + 4 small suspicions = "Half the thread" 8/24 = 25% at most. Yeah. Fuck this. Very little in QT, very little in thread, why should we assume you are town then!? Your whole logic is flawed, you get 'angry' at the fact people are calling you scum even though their motives are correct. Even if you posted 4 times in the QT that's 100% more than you had posted here at that time. 8/24 is 33%, you pointed out 4 people, 4 other suspicions BUT HAVE NOT ELABORATED ON THEM OR PUSHED YOUR SUSPICIONS. Why is that townlike to you? | ||
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LastArgument
United States152 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:52 Cephiro wrote: The thing is, as far as I know, we're playing Mafia, not "Post-the-most". I think I did a fairly reasonable post that can be seen as a genuine town interest in the game. I explained my own opinions, statements and behavior, as well as gave some reads and reasoning to them. I do agree the less content to go by, the harder it is to read. But I also think that little, contentful posts are better than constantly posting useless fluff. But it seems that someone wanted to paint it as fluff, and what would be easier for scum after seeing a good post to just ignore it completely, claiming it as fluff = Leaving that person looking like he has done nothing at all. Come on Cephiro, one post is not suitable contribution and I think you know that | ||
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LastArgument
United States152 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I mean, sure his scumhunting isn't there but WHOSE IS? I mean, I'd be somewhat pissed to discover that many votes on me when the key argument is "lurking" and there are players like Stutters and JAT and BH and more contributing equally little. On the other hand, meta may still be a reason and I'm not sure who else we lynch (not palmar people). | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:52 Cephiro wrote: The thing is, as far as I know, we're playing Mafia, not "Post-the-most". I think I did a fairly reasonable post that can be seen as a genuine town interest in the game. I explained my own opinions, statements and behavior, as well as gave some reads and reasoning to them. I do agree the less content to go by, the harder it is to read. But I also think that little, contentful posts are better than constantly posting useless fluff. But it seems that someone wanted to paint it as fluff, and what would be easier for scum after seeing a good post to just ignore it completely, claiming it as fluff = Leaving that person looking like he has done nothing at all. I dont have a problem you posted once. People get busy. I have a problem that you came in and blew big smoke with a massive post; some to explain the QT stuff (fair enough) and then the reads. The reads were all essentially: this person has done nothing/useless. I dont believe any indicated why that uselessness was indicative of a scum mindset. Further, what *REALLY* bugs me (Aside from the appeal to hosts previously) was the addition of K-Pop as ice-breaker to your post which was then re-hashed as a backstory to how your reads developed. That is some really stinky stuff that reeks of heavy fabrication and manipulation. 2 things that a townie would need feel the requirement to cater for on a D1 defense post identifying the "real scum". | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: To be fair to ceph, nobody has great reasons for him being scum other than poorly substantiated meta and some confirmation bias along the lines of "well if he is scum I think he'd play like this". I mean, sure his scumhunting isn't there but WHOSE IS? I mean, I'd be somewhat pissed to discover that many votes on me when the key argument is "lurking" and there are players like Stutters and JAT and BH and more contributing equally little. On the other hand, meta may still be a reason and I'm not sure who else we lynch (not palmar people). This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On October 19 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: On the other hand, meta may still be a reason and I'm not sure who else we lynch (not palmar people). Why not Palmar? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Because I've played with lazy half-troll Palmar Day 1 before and he was town. He's the kind of player who dies N1 as town anyway so if he lives and doesn't shape up then its like a free red-check. Why lynch now when we are getting a virtual cop-check for tomorrow? Nothing tells me Palmar has to be scum. I can definitely see it but for now I don't see a reason to lynch D1. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On October 19 2013 04:00 Holyflare wrote: This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it. ^ THIS. Hits the nail on the head. Anyhow, Cephiro is starting to get some resistance which is good. If he flips scum, I suppose the next job will be to find out if these are townies with wet feet, or scummers trying to avoid a scum lynch. | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
On October 19 2013 04:00 Holyflare wrote: This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it. It has everything to do with meta. Did you have a look at Noir? This looks like that. The stuff someone posted about his aperture play looks wildly different. Cephiro stop defending yourself and tell us who should be lynched instead of you. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
I will try to reply calmly after that, and tell you who I want to lynch and why (but it will be short, as we are short on time.) 1) People claiming that the cases on me have nothing to do with meta are blatant lies. 2) I genuinely love K-pop, I don't understand why an innocent remark of such is considered fabricated. You can ask anyone in the gryffindor QT, I also posted about k-pop there, and they can confirm it. (But I doubt rayn for example would even want to, he's happy to paint me as scum as is.) 3) I know that one post is not enough contribution no matter how great it is. I'm just tired of trying to play from behind. (Meaning, I get accused and since I'm the type that doesn't ignore accusations, I end up wasting all my time defending myself instead of hunting for scum. This is something scum may know and may abuse, but it's my personality and I'm not going to just disregard someone's suspicions on me if I am town.) | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On October 19 2013 04:07 syllogism wrote: This doesn't look like resistance at all, mafia doesnt do that 1 hour before the lynch when there is essentially only one wagon Yet your vote is still on him. | ||
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You-Know-Who
Great Britain155 Posts
VOTE COUNT: Cephiro (11) : Palmar (4) : Pandain, Grackeroni, VayneAuthority, LoneMeow Sn0_Man (3) : StorrZerg, Skanja1bs, supersoft, VayneAuthority (1) : Yamato77, raynpelikonoshi (1) : Hopeless1der (0) : Mattchew (0) : Onegu (0) : StorrZerg (0) : Yamato77 (0) : Not voting (5) : Cephiro, justanothertownie, Onegu, Palmar, Stutters695 + Show Spoiler [Details] +
Currently Cephiro is to be lynched. Deadline is in . Please use the voting thread to vote (I'm looking at you, Palmar). | ||
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