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On October 19 2013 19:31 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 19:28 Holyflare wrote:On October 19 2013 19:08 LastArgument wrote: Holyflare, you are significantly less active than the towngames of yours that I have looked at, what gives? How is that even true? You had a 6 page filter by the end of Day 1 in a 9 player mini, here you have a 3 page filter midway through Night 1 in a 24 player Themed game. How is it not true?
Which mini are we talking about? The 3 that are in my profile are all 3 pages long day 1's, if it's world heavyweight it's because I was forced to defend myself the entire day. While this does have more players in it that doesn't constitute more activity, I'm still around the same amount of time as I would be in a mini.
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I have 4 pages now and it isn't even the end of night 1.
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I do have some reads that I'll post at the end of the night/tomorrow if I survive
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No I mean I will post them at the end of the night but if I'm alive tomorrow I can discuss them more.
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What the shit just happened
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I think lonemeow was a definite vig shot. I had a case on him because of his palmer vote and other things I didn't like + his meta from noir but now that's seemingly redundant.
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On October 20 2013 05:25 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 05:22 Onegu wrote:On October 20 2013 05:20 Skanjab1s wrote: Cool.
Who is LA's mason partner? He said stutters in qt Are they modconf town partners, or did he not specify?
He said in the thread don't kill stutters trust me, it's kind of obvious
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Going to do an analysis on these events when I have the time. There are some people that come out looking scummy from these kills.
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On October 20 2013 08:25 raynpelikonoshi wrote: How many vigies do we have rofl. I need to see that spreadsheet endgame. So scum has 2 kp and lets say a scum vigi and then there was a town vigi and an sk? With the lover twins it would make 6. Crazy shizzle.
Supersoft was yelling that both cephiro and snowman are scum. WIFOM kill or respect kill? Also 4 pages of filter and possible active inside the house?
The other 2 townies I need to reread still. LA made a good post. A long one with a lot of reads that were really different than my reads D: but he was onto LM so thats impressive. I forgot the rest.
AND THEN 3 scumkills :D so awesome. I need to know how that happened. Who had the balls to shoot Pandain. Damn sexy. LM same but less sexy but still sexy. And then scummers probably killed off ET. Thank you! Rofl.
So yeah. Today I can take a day off and sheep BH and syllo.
Yay for town!
Not sure if serious.
ET was scum? IMO ET got vig shot because he was coming under suspicion from a lot of people at night. As he was partnered with toad they both died. The 2 kp were obviously SS and LA and then Pandain is either SK or random vigi shot which would make no sense so I'm leaning more towards an SK. LM is also vig shot because of more suspicion.
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On October 20 2013 08:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 08:28 justanothertownie wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want to sheep BH. Seriously... Well we should ask Pandain why he always kill........WAIT A SECOND. PANDAIN WAS SCUM AND BH IS ALIVE. BH is going to be scum ]:
This. Look at BH's filter, 3 pages and it's all useless spam shit. What is more curious is how mocsta could have an entire read on Zaragon/BH and he can see BH doing this trolly shit but he doesn't even mention that shit in his last case post on mattchew????
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Want more damning conclusions/evidence?
Here is Mocsta's original case: Click me!
and this:
On October 19 2013 00:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote: Mocsta, why is syllo getting a free pass day1 for being a potential town asset and BH(Zaragon) is not? Because zaragon was my best scum read.Bh doesn't affect that. I will give cephiro some co sideratiin when I get home. I don't feel confident with him in general after noir regardless. So fat one gu looks better too so I'm not interested in him currently.
There's 1 kp, scum just got hit hard, I don't think they'd be in the position to bus right now, so why has mocsta dropped this entire read for mattchew instead? Especially as the evidence he's given isn't very damning for mattchew. I had a case on mattchew before the lynch too that was much more substantial but I've been discussing this with him in our QT, his reactions to me were very puzzled at how nobody could understand why he was doing the things he was doing (not something I'd expect from a scum) but I'm still a little wary.
Mocsta also switched his vote during the Cephiro/Palmar situation to BH. He switched after I said day 2 was better to get a read off him but then switched to Palmar who arguably was the same. Why? Palmar was going after Mocsta and only him. It's obviously an easy wagon to join.
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On October 20 2013 08:57 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 08:47 Holyflare wrote:Want more damning conclusions/evidence? Here is Mocsta's original case: Click me!and this: On October 19 2013 00:05 Mocsta wrote:On October 18 2013 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote: Mocsta, why is syllo getting a free pass day1 for being a potential town asset and BH(Zaragon) is not? Because zaragon was my best scum read.Bh doesn't affect that. I will give cephiro some co sideratiin when I get home. I don't feel confident with him in general after noir regardless. So fat one gu looks better too so I'm not interested in him currently. There's 1 kp, scum just got hit hard, I don't think they'd be in the position to bus right now, so why has mocsta dropped this entire read for mattchew instead? Especially as the evidence he's given isn't very damning for mattchew. I had a case on mattchew before the lynch too that was much more substantial but I've been discussing this with him in our QT, his reactions to me were very puzzled at how nobody could understand why he was doing the things he was doing (not something I'd expect from a scum) but I'm still a little wary. Mocsta also switched his vote during the Cephiro/Palmar situation to BH. He switched after I said day 2 was better to get a read off him but then switched to Palmar who arguably was the same. Why? Palmar was going after Mocsta and only him. It's obviously an easy wagon to join. You are tunneled and making fallacious arguments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequentI can not help it if you do not like my reasoning. It is what it is. But where you can help yourself: is by not jumping to one conclusion to provide answers to satiate your theory.
It is most definitely not tunneling and I of course know what that is. I can say the same thing about all of your last posts confirming/disproving towns/scum. A lot of those were confirmation biased opinions. This is just stating facts. Either way, I am comfortable lynching BH in light of this and it gives us more time to discuss other scenarios/scum.
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On October 20 2013 09:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 09:05 Holyflare wrote:On October 20 2013 08:57 Mocsta wrote:On October 20 2013 08:47 Holyflare wrote:Want more damning conclusions/evidence? Here is Mocsta's original case: Click me!and this: On October 19 2013 00:05 Mocsta wrote:On October 18 2013 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote: Mocsta, why is syllo getting a free pass day1 for being a potential town asset and BH(Zaragon) is not? Because zaragon was my best scum read.Bh doesn't affect that. I will give cephiro some co sideratiin when I get home. I don't feel confident with him in general after noir regardless. So fat one gu looks better too so I'm not interested in him currently. There's 1 kp, scum just got hit hard, I don't think they'd be in the position to bus right now, so why has mocsta dropped this entire read for mattchew instead? Especially as the evidence he's given isn't very damning for mattchew. I had a case on mattchew before the lynch too that was much more substantial but I've been discussing this with him in our QT, his reactions to me were very puzzled at how nobody could understand why he was doing the things he was doing (not something I'd expect from a scum) but I'm still a little wary. Mocsta also switched his vote during the Cephiro/Palmar situation to BH. He switched after I said day 2 was better to get a read off him but then switched to Palmar who arguably was the same. Why? Palmar was going after Mocsta and only him. It's obviously an easy wagon to join. You are tunneled and making fallacious arguments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequentI can not help it if you do not like my reasoning. It is what it is. But where you can help yourself: is by not jumping to one conclusion to provide answers to satiate your theory. It is most definitely not tunneling and I of course know what that is. I can say the same thing about all of your last posts confirming/disproving towns/scum. A lot of those were confirmation biased opinions. This is just stating facts. Either way, I am comfortable lynching BH in light of this and it gives us more time to discuss other scenarios/scum. ##Vote: Blazinghand Ohh i agree completely my mattchew post was a leap of faith. I did not call it a case either. If you read any of my games, this is how I play. I'm a high risk gambler. Can't help it. I think it contributes to why people find me hard to read, I dunno.
Yet you called my post fallacious without actually stating why. So what is the wrong reasoning here?
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Totally just got ignored...
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On October 20 2013 12:32 Hopeless1der wrote: ...so much for loyalty ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare By process of elimination
Huh?
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On October 20 2013 12:37 Hopeless1der wrote: did you miss the part where grack told the thread one of us is scum? PoE is a scumhunting tactic.
I know what process of elimination is -.- I'm asking your reasoning. If the only thing that's making you lean town for others is that they pointed out something that made someone else look town that's dumb.
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On October 20 2013 12:40 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 12:39 Holyflare wrote:On October 20 2013 12:37 Hopeless1der wrote: did you miss the part where grack told the thread one of us is scum? PoE is a scumhunting tactic. I know what process of elimination is -.- I'm asking your reasoning. If the only thing that's making you lean town for others is that they pointed out something that made someone else look town that's dumb. pandain's filter gives me a much stronger indication that storr and matt are town. That leaves you and grack, and I think grack is more likely town.
At least that makes some sense. Mocsta already mentioned pandain including mafia in his call outs, what do you make of that?
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Someone in hufflepuff claimed house checking cop
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On October 20 2013 12:57 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 12:54 Mattchew wrote:On October 20 2013 12:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 20 2013 12:48 Grackaroni wrote:On October 20 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote: If I had to pick from that list I would want to lynch grack first since he will never reveal his alignment. learned from thug life that he is apt to troll as both alignments so that would be my first pick. The difference is I will actually start playing soon. You will not. <3 the real difference is there not a currently residing confirmed scum in my house...and I heavily agree with hopeless' analysis. Leaving you and holy. Holy looks better by far so there you have it. why not hopeless? I see no reason to confirm townreads on 3 lynchable people as scum. do you? He is now binded to us 3 essentially, a strong strategy to do as town as it cements you in a good and unbending spot, while as scum you would never want to do this. I used this tactic late in thug life with austinmcc and mr.cheesecake and neither of them wished to do it, cheesecake being the last mafia and austin just being a stubborn town (as usual, chalk that more up to personality)
That's great until you realise the only read he has is matt. Storr was the one that pointed this out.
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