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(1) Grack has a lot of scumreads. Nothing but Skanjabs last for like a half of a page in his filter (besides his townread on BH - for what?). (2) He does never really try to push a lynch on Skanjabs. Not on D2, when he makes the case, not on D3 when he thought Cephiro was town. There is always a better alternative in the end, despite Skanjabs remaining as his scumread for the whole game since he made the case. (3) He asks people a lot about Skanjabs, but never follows these questions up. In addition to that, he does never really interact with Skanjabs in any way - trying to find out who he is scum with, or making him say something that could enforce his case. (4) In fact, his interactions with other people do not seem like he is really trying to scumhunt. Half of his filter is pure trolling and other half is calling Skanjabs scum while never pushing his lynch like a townie should push his scumread (taking account his interactions with other people regarding Skan). (5) None of the people that i think have a chance of flipping scum in this game do not consider Grackaroni as scum. Why is that? He is one of the people whose role is not confirmed nor does it point heavily towards him being town. He is a possible mislynch for scum, in case he is town. Why is there zero scum at least putting up some suspicion on him? Given what he has done this game i find that really fishy. | ||
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On October 29 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: The only problem with rayn's case is that it isn't like the real townies are doing the catch scum thing either  We are, it's just that there were people like CR and Cephiro.. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:03 Grackaroni wrote: Lots of problems with his case. 1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man) 2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock. 3) I did interact with Skanjab1s... 4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced. 5) 5 is actually decent. 1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game. 2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread. 3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case. 4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad. On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/ | ||
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I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum? | ||
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On October 26 2013 08:47 Grackaroni wrote: This is the post in question.People have no idea how much it bugs that I accuse Skanjab of having weak justification for a vote change off of his scum read and contradictions and I get ignored. But then Mocsta writes that Skanjab1s case on Sn0 Man was weak. (It was actually quite reasonable; Switching from a scumread on to a policy lynch proposed by your previous scum read is scummy) and then cherry picks some one-liners and says Skanjab doesn't care about the lynch and that constitutes a good case. I could find quotes exactly like that in every single town game Palmar has ever played in or even from my own filter this game. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:31 Grackaroni wrote: The only thing I find funny about that situation is that when I do that in Golden Sun you call me out as scum. You think Skanjab1s made the same mistake that I had made in Golden Sun this game but rather than call him out on it you avoid commenting on the case and instead accuse me of making a case against a weaker player and following my scum meta. Then you start insisting that I write a case on you when I wasn't even interested in lynching you. Well that's not entirely true; the fact that you come back later to accuse me of not pushing Skanjab1s is pretty funny too. I do not think it is totally scummy as it has never been pointed out what he in fact did. I would think you would however be interested in this as you did the same thing in your last scumgame. That should enforce your case. Why are you not looking more into it (see my last post where you point it out)? You have not pushed Skanjab lynch and that is a fact. There is even posts from you that support this heavily. For example, you saying on D3: "I am waiting syllo to come in and disagree with me on Cephiro" etc. That's really fucking fishy and does not imply you are even trying to lynch your top scumread. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:46 Grackaroni wrote: Oh that's me disagreeing with Mocsta's case. Yeah that is invalid, i thought you guys were talking about Skan when you were in fact talking about Sno. | ||
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On October 29 2013 05:15 syllogism wrote: There's 10 alive I believe, 7-3 Okay you are right. | ||
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I need to ask hosts if it works that way rofl. | ||
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