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On October 17 2013 07:47 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 07:39 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:32 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 07:17 Zaragon wrote:
Guess we'll let the Houses trickle out to fuel discussion. There is the off-chance that scum has no one in two whole Houses, too. After my last game, I'm going to be more careful about dismissing something very unlikely prematurely.
I realized something is going to be very confusing: bits of rayn's scum play looks similar to Koshi's town, and their hydra is not particularly stating who is talking (unless I missed them setting up times or something in the pregame). For an early read, them using that ambiguity I'll put down as leaning slightly scum.
skanjab1s is just odd so far, somewhat scummy and/or new; any meta on him? (1) Not new. Odd in what way? (2) Your scumread on raynoshi is just because you don't know who is posting? Thats hardly a reason to think someone scum, especially since they have already stated earlier before the game started that rayn will put his name at the end of his posts. Why do you put so much emphasis on how that's not a reason to think someone's scum instead of putting emphasis on him doing it? It's a valid point you make but the basic idea behind it is completly wrong. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have seen that and yet noone is defending him because you usually don't want to defend other people in their stead; you want to see them defend themselves unless you already know their alignment. You ARE kind of attacking Zaragon but you're making a bigger deal out of defending here. Why? I'm not making a bigger deal out of defending. I'm pointing out the flaws in Zaragon's reasoning behind him thinking that rayn is scum. How can I be making a big deal out of defending the argument of "Rayn is scum because I don't know if rayn or koshi is speaking, even though they have said so before".
Your scumread on raynoshi is just because you don't know who is posting? Thats hardly a reason to think someone scum, especially since they have already stated earlier before the game started that rayn will put his name at the end of his posts.
The first one downplays his accusation, the 2nd one downplays his accusation again, the 3rd one is defending.
What I'm saying is I usually like people a lot more when they have a somewhat agressive tone to them. Mafias have a hard time picking sides and accusing people because they have to make shit up. You're lacking the balls to call him out clearly for what he does. I don't mind you pointing out the flaws if you'd use it to attack him but you're just happy stating his flaws.
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Ebwop I guess my hypothetical should be house A or house B
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I overall dislike skanj right now BTW.
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On October 17 2013 07:49 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment? I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here. Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise. Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker. On a different topic let me reiterate: + Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.
Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing. Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win? What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care? (From phone) Re: gracks indifference to the item. I think he is of the opinion that the houses are just a flavor thing and that we have no real way to manipulate the item/contest to benefit town by getting it all for his self. Assuming town>scum in each house the overall effect should be the same, no? Who cares if townie A or townie B gets it?
Well. You don't know how many scum are where. What if an entire house is scum? Surely you play to our win con - find and kill scum scum. These items imply that they will be nothing but helpful in doing so. If you know you are town, why would you not want something beneficial to use to help our victory, especially doing something as simple as googling a pick up line. What is the DOWNSIDE to not participating?
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I like holyflare. Those trick question downsides. Seriously though, grack says he's cool submitting an extra line if we give him one. Seems like he just CBA to make one himself.
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Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:
Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)
Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry.
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On October 17 2013 07:52 I-be-Pro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 07:47 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 07:39 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:32 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 07:17 Zaragon wrote:
Guess we'll let the Houses trickle out to fuel discussion. There is the off-chance that scum has no one in two whole Houses, too. After my last game, I'm going to be more careful about dismissing something very unlikely prematurely.
I realized something is going to be very confusing: bits of rayn's scum play looks similar to Koshi's town, and their hydra is not particularly stating who is talking (unless I missed them setting up times or something in the pregame). For an early read, them using that ambiguity I'll put down as leaning slightly scum.
skanjab1s is just odd so far, somewhat scummy and/or new; any meta on him? (1) Not new. Odd in what way? (2) Your scumread on raynoshi is just because you don't know who is posting? Thats hardly a reason to think someone scum, especially since they have already stated earlier before the game started that rayn will put his name at the end of his posts. Why do you put so much emphasis on how that's not a reason to think someone's scum instead of putting emphasis on him doing it? It's a valid point you make but the basic idea behind it is completly wrong. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have seen that and yet noone is defending him because you usually don't want to defend other people in their stead; you want to see them defend themselves unless you already know their alignment. You ARE kind of attacking Zaragon but you're making a bigger deal out of defending here. Why? I'm not making a bigger deal out of defending. I'm pointing out the flaws in Zaragon's reasoning behind him thinking that rayn is scum. How can I be making a big deal out of defending the argument of "Rayn is scum because I don't know if rayn or koshi is speaking, even though they have said so before". Show nested quote +Your scumread on raynoshi is just because you don't know who is posting? Thats hardly a reason to think someone scum, especially since they have already stated earlier before the game started that rayn will put his name at the end of his posts. The first one downplays his accusation, the 2nd one downplays his accusation again, the 3rd one is defending. What I'm saying is I usually like people a lot more when they have a somewhat agressive tone to them. Mafias have a hard time picking sides and accusing people because they have to make shit up. You're lacking the balls to call him out clearly for what he does. I don't mind you pointing out the flaws if you'd use it to attack him but you're just happy stating his flaws.
The fuck are you talking about? I am very clearly calling him out for what he does, and I am very clearly questioning him.
Secondly, there are only two bolded points there. And obviously I'm downplaying his accusation, in the fact THAT IM POINTING OUT THE FLAWED REASONING.
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On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:
Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)
Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry.
If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no?
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On October 17 2013 05:37 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 05:34 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Hi all.
I suggest we lynch somebody from Slytherin. Suggestions?
I say we go for Sn0_Man
looks scum to me
maybe he is slytherin too, even better
hasn't done anything to make me think he is town besides pointing out that
Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing
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On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment? I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here. Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise. Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker. On a different topic let me reiterate: + Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.
Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing. Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win? What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care?
I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol. It could actually be detrimental to help my own house get it so it's a rather pointless argument. If another house wins it I trust that they will use it wisely.
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Skanj name someone in the thread that might care about your QT convos.
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On October 17 2013 08:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Skanj name someone in the thread that might care about your QT convos.
Nobody at all, we haven't had much conversation yet. Just a couple posts about the Challenge.
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But oh god, Mocsta just asked a question in the QT.
Scum.
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You should KNOW you are town so do everything in your power to make it based on your opinion or something you actually agree with. Don't just sit back and idle and hope that someone does something useful. That is a totally defeatist attitude "You do the work for me, hopefully it works out." Our aim is to kill scum, I am trying to do that. Is your aim different?
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So skanj isn't really reading the thread but is painfully aware when he is being called out for anything. Townie or scummy to tunnelvision on your personal predicaments? (Open question to whoever wants to chat)
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How am i not reading the thread? You cant just say shit like that with no reasoning whatsoever.
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My aim is he same as yours holy, I was playing devil's advocate trying to reason gracks perspective. I'm hoping he changes his mind
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On October 17 2013 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
You should KNOW you are town so do everything in your power to make it based on your opinion or something you actually agree with. Don't just sit back and idle and hope that someone does something useful. That is a totally defeatist attitude "You do the work for me, hopefully it works out." Our aim is to kill scum, I am trying to do that. Is your aim different?
Ok, you don't like that I'm willing to let others control the power instead of myself. But why focus on it? A scum player should also be interested in trying to make the power based on his decisions.
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On October 17 2013 08:05 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:
Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)
Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry. If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no?
It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1.
Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things.
I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping 
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Maybe you misunderstood my question. Someone in the game thread specifically indicated he wanted qt convos to be related in this thread. I was asking if you knew who that was.
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