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On October 17 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
Holy, do you believe grack STATING that he wouldnt submit a line to be null, like koshi suggests?
It's null so much as that it could be scum or town. Obviously he could just not say it but what information does he have that it won't get displayed later? It's just an odd thing to say when it's very easy to open a new tab and google 'harry potter pick up lines' and copy paste. Better to at least have it in writing as either alignment than not say it at all and possibly get picked out for it later.
Either way. I don't know, I'm kinda getting tired of discussing it for now. I've said all that can be said. Unfortunately toad went to bed so I can't discuss the other stuff he mentioned before about Skan.
But since you guys are around;
On October 17 2013 08:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 08:16 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 08:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:
Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)
Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry. If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no? It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1. Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things. I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping  So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads" What do you think of him OMGUSing this. His defenses have been kind of shitty IMO and then when someone says they want to generate discussion he is surprised by it? Any discussion that isn't the normal policy lynch crap is good discussion. Look at what we've got already, people soft defending, people criticising and people discussing. Why is he attacking for this?
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On October 17 2013 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s
and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role?
We don't KNOW (winkwink) if he is or isn't, I think he gets benefit of the doubt to try and prove townieness.
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Holy I'm a little confused with the pronouns. Can you clarify? I think you're having a go at skanj but I'm not 100% on that
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On October 17 2013 08:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 08:16 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 08:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:
Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)
Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry. If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no? It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1. Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things. I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads" What do you think of him OMGUSing this. His defenses have been kind of shitty IMO and then when someone says they want to generate discussion he is surprised by it? Any discussion that isn't the normal policy lynch crap is good discussion. Look at what we've got already, people soft defending, people criticising and people discussing. Why is he attacking for this?
It is not an OMGUS at all. I'm not voting for him, nor am I FoSing him. Calm down sonny.
Also calling me out for OMGUSing is quite silly when all the active people barr one have accused me.
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Sorry that all fucked up. All I'm saying is that he is calling out everyone that is having a go at him, especially Toad, who at this point has generated the most discussion. Why is that? It's odd to question someones motives when the motives were "i want to generate discussion".
He's shitflinging and not really helping us.
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If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events?
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On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events?
You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now.
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Difference being: holy is (almost) calling you scum skanj. P.s. toad's post wasn't pointless as I tried to show you.
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On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?
Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play
I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.
i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.
I don't understand any of this reasoning. The only situation where mafia don't understand the exact player make-up of each house is when all the mafia are stacked in 1 or 2 houses. If they're in 3 houses they can obviously deduce the fourth. A mathematician will probably be able to tell you how likely it is that all mafia are in 2 or fewer houses, but I don't think the probability is very high.
What information do you think mafia are being given by releasing the members of people's houses then?
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On October 17 2013 08:53 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events? You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now.
He's telling you the reasoning behind his actions. He's pointing out new information that we could not have unless we were in his house QT that he deemed not very relevant but we MAY. It's the divulgence which is useful. To call his post pointless was dismissing these facts.
I am calling out the fact that you seem against deciphering new information. All information is good information.
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(Completely made up ability) polyjuice potion/roleblock and infiltrate target [house] player's QT. This ability fails if you guess the targets house incorrectly.
Mocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic.
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On October 17 2013 09:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 08:53 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events? You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now. He's telling you the reasoning behind his actions. He's pointing out new information that we could not have unless we were in his house QT that he deemed not very relevant but we MAY. It's the divulgence which is useful. To call his post pointless was dismissing these facts. I am calling out the fact that you seem against deciphering new information. All information is good information.
Please tell me how any read whatsoever could be divulged from the information that he shared?
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On October 17 2013 09:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
(Completely made up ability) polyjuice potion/roleblock and infiltrate target [house] player's QT. This ability fails if you guess the targets house incorrectly.
Mocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic.
Again, mafia will have this information already barring exceptional circumstances and town will not.
I don't understand your point.
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On October 17 2013 09:02 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 09:01 Holyflare wrote:On October 17 2013 08:53 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events? You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now. He's telling you the reasoning behind his actions. He's pointing out new information that we could not have unless we were in his house QT that he deemed not very relevant but we MAY. It's the divulgence which is useful. To call his post pointless was dismissing these facts. I am calling out the fact that you seem against deciphering new information. All information is good information. Please tell me how any read whatsoever could be divulged from the information that he shared?
That's literally the point of the game. Skanj, take this as an opportunity to take a break for a bit. I think you're being overwhelmed right now and youre on tilt. You are not fostering productive discussions.
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Okay Ill be back later then
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On October 17 2013 09:03 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 09:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
(Completely made up ability) polyjuice potion/roleblock and infiltrate target [house] player's QT. This ability fails if you guess the targets house incorrectly.
Mocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic. Again, mafia will have this information already barring exceptional circumstances and town will not. I don't understand your point.
My point is that mocsta is right, you don't donate information you don't need to. Closed setups and contests and whatnot. I gave a poor example, but it demonstrates a case where information can be used against us.
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On October 17 2013 09:02 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 09:01 Holyflare wrote:On October 17 2013 08:53 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events? You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now. He's telling you the reasoning behind his actions. He's pointing out new information that we could not have unless we were in his house QT that he deemed not very relevant but we MAY. It's the divulgence which is useful. To call his post pointless was dismissing these facts. I am calling out the fact that you seem against deciphering new information. All information is good information. Please tell me how any read whatsoever could be divulged from the information that he shared?
He posted that Sn0_Man was answering in QT. He was not posting in here at the time. That is extra information that we could not gather unless he stated it. Already, we see that he picked on a little point and there have been many pages discussing it. That is more information for reads to be formulated later in the game. The way people defend themselves, the way people defend others. That is all information that you scour through later in the game to formulate a case and win the game. If people post "oh I like this policy", they are just posting opinions, THAT woud be useless information. He has generated discussion about a person that is infinitely more useful.
Stifling that is abhorrent. Why question it?
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On October 17 2013 09:09 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 09:03 LastArgument wrote:On October 17 2013 09:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
(Completely made up ability) polyjuice potion/roleblock and infiltrate target [house] player's QT. This ability fails if you guess the targets house incorrectly.
Mocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic. Again, mafia will have this information already barring exceptional circumstances and town will not. I don't understand your point. My point is that mocsta is right, you don't donate information you don't need to. Closed setups and contests and whatnot. I gave a poor example, but it demonstrates a case where information can be used against us.
No, it didn't, in your example town is hindered, not mafia.
And to repeat, it's information mafia are very likely in possession of already, whereas town are not.
Why are you finding this difficult to comprehend?
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That is what I was trying to say in my example...you've agreed with me. As to information, I do not know what mafia knows, nor what they WANT to know. Unless town needs the breakdown for some reason, there is zero benefit to giving it away.
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On October 17 2013 09:10 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 09:09 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 17 2013 09:03 LastArgument wrote:On October 17 2013 09:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
(Completely made up ability) polyjuice potion/roleblock and infiltrate target [house] player's QT. This ability fails if you guess the targets house incorrectly.
Mocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic. Again, mafia will have this information already barring exceptional circumstances and town will not. I don't understand your point. My point is that mocsta is right, you don't donate information you don't need to. Closed setups and contests and whatnot. I gave a poor example, but it demonstrates a case where information can be used against us. No, it didn't, in your example town is hindered, not mafia. And to repeat, it's information mafia are very likely in possession of already, whereas town are not. Why are you finding this difficult to comprehend?
Out of everything in the thread thus far.
Why is it that you are purely commenting on that item?
Can you guarantee scum know who is what house?
Heres a tidbit.. in GoT... a player took the exact same stance you did... that player flipped scum
What is your opinion on the rest of the thread; for example, what do you make of I-Be-So-Pro interchanges with Supersoft.
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