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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:31 GMT
#952
I don't think I can get anything out of that, other than that he was thinking about the issue rather and perhaps even reading mafiascum wiki when he said that. If he was, that's actually slightly towny.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:33 GMT
#953
I noted that he had boasted about his ability to accurately read Koshi and inquired as to whether he yet had a good read. The content of the question isn't important, the answer is. There is no answer, likely because he isn't here.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:51 GMT
#957
On October 18 2013 16:43 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 16:31 syllogism wrote:
I don't think I can get anything out of that, other than that he was thinking about the issue rather and perhaps even reading mafiascum wiki when he said that. If he was, that's actually slightly towny.

I'm dumb. Can you walk me through why it's townie.

He's read mafia wiki. What is the significance of the change/connotation and why is it not a null or scum indicator?

He is putting in at least minimal effort to investigate the issue. It's a very weak indicator either way, but if I had to pick based on that, it would be slightly towny. As for the significance of the change, I can't really come up with anything meaningful. Calling it smart town play isn't suspicious at all and wanting to change the connotation just seems irrelevant to me. I read your perspective on it and I did consider that angle before doing so, but decided that it's really weak at best.

It's possible that it was a slip, but it would have to be a slip that only makes sense in his head and correcting himself certainly is more suspicious than just leaving it there. After all, he also called it bold mafia play.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:58 GMT
#959
Don't be too excited, I wasn't implying that I was actually putting in much effort into it or had some unique insight based on the currently available evidence.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 08:44 GMT
#964
On October 18 2013 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
People seem to be flailing like fish right now. I do not know why.

People are defending "slow" players too like it's their god given right to stay in the game. This IMO is utter shit play. You can sit on reads like Palmar to day 3 only to find out he was actually scum all you want, but I will not do it. It does not prove he is town to me and if he continues playing like that during day 1 my vote could most definitely end up on him. Meta works, to an extent, but slow play meta is something I despise.

That being said I want to steer this town in the correct direction so some of you people can actually pull your fingers out of your arses and we can win the game.

<snip>

There are a lot of people in this game, a lot of filters to dive through. I've been reading and re-reading but there is nothing blatantly scummy that I can wholeheartedly see yet

When you say people are defending "slow" players, were you referring to Palmar? That definitely did not happen and never will happen. That defense was used to justify my play, but I'm completely absent from your post. You say that slow play meta is something you despite. Have you personally experienced this? I looked at your games and there's only one non-newbie game, so that seems like pretty strong choice of words.

Another thing that feels a bit fake about the post is that you start by suggesting that people are "flailing like fish" but you do not know why, and then go on to say that you haven't found anything blatantly scummy. I'm not sure what flailing like a fish looks like in a game of mafia, but meaningless or even contradictory fluff never looks good to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 11:47 GMT
#992
We aren't lynching him today. I don't care whether claiming SAM is "incredibly mafia favored" or not. The fact is that claiming it as town is the rule, not the exception and as such that wall of text is worthless. Can you do something else?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 11:51 GMT
#995
It's pretty convenient that he is a self-aware miller after being framed two games in a row though and that explanation of his is a bit iffy. Still, it makes flavor sense for there to be at least millers. I don't think he is a priority.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 11:55 GMT
#999
This would be his first mafia game at least on TL and I got a slight town read on him based on some of the things he said. That said, there was some suspicious content too which I pointed out earlier. That question of yours seems a bit random though.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#1000
Supersoft hasn't been nearly as angry as I would expect, so despite some fine content, I'm still suspicious of him yes.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 12:50 GMT
#1023
I don't think the big post by Cephiro makes him look any better. It looks something made out of obligation and the tone isn't what I expect from him based on the games I've played with him. He spends so much time on quite pointless defense. The activity and tone are the issue, not really whatever you are defending against in the post. Perhaps it would be more helpful in the context of your QT.

I also do not like how your reads are tugged near the end, spoiler tagged and definitely not the focus of your post. Again, based on my experience you are an outspoken player who pushes his reads. I'm not seeing this in your cases and in fact I do not know who you want to lynch.

Finally, I'm skeptical that the list of "other suspicious people" is genuine. The list of names does not make sense to me, because they do not seem to stand out at all as suspicious and in fact some of them have looked towny. It's a weird mix of names. His reads differing from mine isn't an issue, but that specific list of names is. It's also strange that you note that you will make "small cases on" unless you change your read "strongly". Awkward and fake sounding phrasing.

##vote Cephiro

I'm leaving in about an hour and will be gone for at least 3 hours. It's possible that I won't be back before the deadline, but I likely will be able to.

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 12:51 GMT
#1026
On October 18 2013 21:51 Palmar wrote:
I also had cephiro as likely town.

Why? Who is mafia then?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 13:03 GMT
#1031
Lynching justanothertownie is a decent alternative. Zero useful content and him complaining about Palmar after he had finished catching up is quite suspicious. He didn't even suggest that Palmar is mafia for his focus on Mocsta. In Noir he was, as town, chatty and active. He promised for more content before the deadline so lets see how that works out.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 13:46 GMT
#1039
No, I haven't gone through everything and considered everyone. I don't think your filter is as bad though.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 18:27 GMT
#1175
Sigh, this lynch is way too easy, but we can always blame it on Rayn
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 18:32 GMT
#1180
Palmar you forgot to tell me why Cephiro is town
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#1198
On October 19 2013 03:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.


1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever.

At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs.

I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming".
you better be town.

i abhor appeals like this.. even moreso as scum.

almost warning worthy if scum; as this transcends the gentleman rules of play.

Agreed, after that meta-gamey poor sports post I'm not switching. Feel free to complain about the case against you being bad, but have some self-awareness and do not attempt to convince us with emotional not game related nonsense.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#1200
I guess we could lynch Palmar
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#1216
This doesn't look like resistance at all, mafia doesnt do that 1 hour before the lynch when there is essentially only one wagon
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 19:11 GMT
#1224
On October 19 2013 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:07 syllogism wrote:
This doesn't look like resistance at all, mafia doesnt do that 1 hour before the lynch when there is essentially only one wagon


Yet your vote is still on him.

I'm not confident about the lynch and I'm not happy about the lack of resistance. That does not necessarily mean that he isn't mafia and I was merely making an observation.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 19:31 GMT
#1257
That's another thing I loathe: posting your notes.
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