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Pandain
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On October 17 2013 23:55 Skanjab1s wrote: Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets. Alright then hopefully you will recognize you are wrong. I'll probably push Echolen, Palmar, or Mattchew later but we'll see. O_O | ||
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On October 18 2013 00:01 LastArgument wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=29#573 I'm interested to hear anyone's opinion on it really. Forgot this post, I'll read it later and reflect. | ||
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On October 18 2013 00:43 Palmar wrote: That's because you're not thinking. I think it's a pretty legit question. Also, I'd at least see if his answer makes any kind of sense before I try to policy lynch him. Why a policy lynch? I see no reason to its not like he was checked and then claims miller | ||
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On October 18 2013 02:10 VayneAuthority wrote: im glad we sent some one to the champion game where his best contribution so far recently has been advocating spite lynches and getting lynched day 1 as town, 2 str0ng You are being by far unacceptable and deserve to get lynched even if not scum. You need to shape up and apologize | ||
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Worst roles of all time. Ron/Herminoie/Harry are probably confirmed, anyone else is fair game. | ||
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On October 18 2013 02:15 yamato77 wrote: There is literally zero explanation for this play coming from town. Seriously, he is mafia. He was a dick to me in Thug, and even though I was mafia he couldn't be sure. And being a dick isn't acceptable anyway. I wanted to do this at the start of the game but was willing to give him a chance and actually scum hunt other players who are lynched solely for their posts. However Vayne is disrupting the thread and will be a nuisiance later on. I will in essence sup up my (good) reasons for lynching Vayne that I had outlined in Thug Life: 1. His playstyle is not to lynch people but to avoid getting lynched. This is a playstyle which needs to be discouraged. 2. Hes not going to contribute until Day 3/4 anyway. I actually had a town read on him which I wasn't certain on, but he's a good enough lynch as honestly we probably wouldn't lynch scum anyway today. | ||
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He got super frustrated with me and Rayn for reasons I can see and appreciate now, and would have to have been a forced mindset if he was scum. Took it really personal. Apparently he was just too busy in life and didn't want to make a post yet in thread. QTs were more relaxed to him and a post in the thread would have been too definitive a statement when he wasn't really sure on everything going on. I'm pretty surprised at the plethora of people voting him who aren't in Gryffindor as he hasn't said anything then, right? Toad, why are you deciding on a man you haven't seen any posts of instead of doing actual analysis. A random lynch isn't going to gain traction and it shouldn't gain traction almost everyone has posted so far and it's a game that should be decided through analysis not random voting. Furthermore I have a soft town read on Rayne/Koshi, Koshi's posts were Koshi town and apparently Rayne agrees with my views which means even if he's scum he's working into my favor. I love StorrZerg's last post and he's town in my eyes. Which leaves these people: Sn0 Vayne Echelon Mattchew Onegu Tunkeg Palmar I-be-Pro Stutters JAT. Palmar doesn't fit into this list and is playing like his scum self. I don't like how he's attempting to hide information he has from the rest of the thread and hoping to get a last minute bandwagon, if even that. He seems sure Mocsta is scum and yet is waiting for a response, which indicates he wouldn't be sure Mocsta is scum. His play is flawed, illogical, and seems calculated and he should be voted. This is the same playstyle Palmar did in Thug Life where he acted aloof and distant. If Palmar wasn't a vet, he would be auto-lynched and the reputation Palmar has in this game suggests that he's playing exactly opposite of how he would want to as town. There are simply too many variables to make me believe Palmar is town. FoS on I-be-Pro for voting Ceph | ||
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Hopeless Last Argument Skanjabs Yamato I have town reads on all of these people and others, upon analyzing them, should confirm/deny this from their own perspective. I also would like it if someone took the time to summarize their House QT for the thread. | ||
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On October 18 2013 05:16 I-be-Pro wrote: long story short: Like I said, I was really busy today with the 3 hour trainride, didn't sleep a lot because I stayed up until 4m yesterday when I had to wake up at 7am again to get to my math classes comming home to an empty fridge and all that so I haven't realy done anything today due to that and me being sleepy as fuck when it's only 22:00 over here. (Explaining what moeboats are to Oats in irc for 45 minutes straight didn't help either  )A bunch of people I might have considered voteable are unvoteable d1 due to my role so I'm going for someone I know really well because we hang out in irc a lot, because I feel comfortable reading him in a short amount of time due to that restriction of mine. But he hasn't posted anything in thread. On October 18 2013 05:18 LastArgument wrote: You were on his team in LXII, correct? Browsing his filter there he does a nice line in righteous complaining, and little else. In fact it looks like he complained about being busy in life in that game too. What is the difference between that game and what he's doing in the QT? Also explain to me why a townie would be worried about making a 'definitive statement' or worry about how they look generally in this thread? Your explanations actually seem to incriminate him more, not less, so if you're somehow convinced he's town, you're not explaining it very well. My reasoning is that he has defended himself enough in a genuine and logical fashion to justify him not being lynched today. If he starts to suck in thread and therefore become suspicious, then we can lynch him. Today is not going to be that day unless he posts that he's scum or something. Other people, however, have posted more and therefore have revealed their intentions in a clearer light then what can be discerned for Ceph. As for his being scared, if you come into thread without fully reading the thread and write a bullshit response, then that haunts you the entire game whether your town or scum. I'm under the impression that he hadn't read the thread fully at that time and he has, according to him, "a life" | ||
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On October 18 2013 05:25 Palmar wrote: Please, point me to where I said I was trying to hide information in order to get a last minute bandwagon. I'm hoping mocsta shows up in the thread again before the deadline. And please, also show me where I said I was sure Mocsta is scum. On October 18 2013 01:08 Palmar wrote: To me, what mocsta did should be no-questions-asked policy lynchable. But I'm in no rush, let's hear WHY he did it. On October 18 2013 00:58 Palmar wrote: That would be preferable. I'll explain why the question is important once Mocsta explains exactly WHY he claimed miller. Hiding information, why would you do that from town. I see no reason for a policy lynch of Mocsta unless you think he's also scum. By last minute I mean you are banking on waiting for Mocsta to respond which could be hours from now, and is last minute in the context of this mafia game. Do you have opinions other then that hopeless is "maybe town" and Mocsta which you are hiding until he answers? | ||
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On October 18 2013 05:32 LastArgument wrote: This is nowhere near good enough reasoning, and I don't trust your judgement enough to even consider deferring to you. If Cephiro is town, he can come and demonstrate it; otherwise he can die. You don't even have any reasoning because you aren't in Gryfinndor. For all you know me/rayn are greatly exagerrating what Cephiro did in thread, or putting things in the wrong context. Why is your vote of him who you have no objective evidence of better then looking into other people and actually analyzing them? | ||
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On October 18 2013 05:34 Palmar wrote: Policy lynches are called policy lynches for a reason, they're enforced irrelevant of whether there is substantial evidence to lynch someone. Think about lurker lynches for example. There is usually not enough hard evidence to construct a solid case against them, but we lynch them anyway. This is the same thing. And I'd simply like Mocsta to reply to my question without me influencing the answer by explaining how I expect him to reply. Lurker lynches are inherently geared towards finding scum because scum tend to inhabit lurkers and they are anti-town and disrupt the thread through being hard to read. Claimg Self-Aware Miller is neither disruptive or evidence that he's scum. If he had been checked, it would be a different story, but he wasn't. And I'm interested if you currently have any other reads on other players who might be scum; I also think that whatever Mocsta could possibly say isn't going to prove anything at all. In essence I'm doubting you have the basis of a reasonable (soon-to-be) argument. | ||
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 (in mafia game not irl)Furthermore, if you think Mocsta is town and he says what will be the logical thing trying to prevent future confusion if he's checked, then you will still policy lynch him, correct? Because that's the only result I can see from this coming, and you still wanted to lynch him. | ||
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