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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 22 2013 06:20 GMT
#2841
That dick! How dare he insult the proud players of Hogwarts Mafia. You tell em Vayne.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
October 22 2013 06:23 GMT
#2842
i feel like somehow though by bringing religion and bottles into it he sunk below his adversary ;_;
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 06:25 GMT
#2843
probably wont post till tomorrow.. my thoughts are in the thread.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 22 2013 06:26 GMT
#2844
Shall we begin the random speculations?
Cleeeeeeeaarly Vayne was angry with the state of his mafia team!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
October 22 2013 06:27 GMT
#2845
LOL
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:29 GMT
#2846
On October 22 2013 15:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Shall we begin the random speculations?
Cleeeeeeeaarly Vayne was angry with the state of his mafia team!


Harry potter died, he's heartbroken. Ask's God why, no response. Think God wouldn't be this unfair, reasons that there can't be a God that would do this to a human being let alone harry fucking potter. Resents the entire thought of a God. Beats up people that think God exists. Get's temp banned.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 22 2013 06:31 GMT
#2847
A quick examination of the votes
+ Show Spoiler [Stutter Lynch] +
On October 22 2013 04:45 You-Know-Who wrote:
VOTE COUNT DAY 2:


Blazinghand (1) : StorrZerg, raynpelikonoshi, Mocsta, Grackaroni, Holyflare, syllogism, Onegu
Mattchew (0) : Mocsta, Onegu, raynpelikonoshi
Cephiro (2) : Mocsta, Sn0_Man, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der, Stutters695
Mocsta (0) : syllogism, Hopeless1der, Blazinghand
Grackaroni (1) : VayneAuthority
Holyflare (0) : Hopeless1der, syllogism
Hopeless1der (3) : Mattchew, Cephiro, Mattchew, StorrZerg
Chairman Ray (7) : syllogism, Onegu, Sn0_Man, Grackaroni, Skanjab1s, justanothertownie, Stutters695
Stutters695 (3) : Sn0_Man, Blazinghand, raynpelikonoshi, ChairmanRay

Not voting (0) :

Currently Chairman Ray is set to be lynched. Deadline is in . Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the Voting Thread.

On October 22 2013 04:58 You-Know-Who wrote:
VOTE COUNT DAY 2:


Blazinghand (1) : StorrZerg, raynpelikonoshi, Mocsta, Grackaroni, Holyflare, syllogism, Onegu
Mattchew (0) : Mocsta, Onegu, raynpelikonoshi
Cephiro (2) : Mocsta, Sn0_Man, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der, Stutters695
Mocsta (0) : syllogism, Hopeless1der, Blazinghand
Grackaroni (1) : VayneAuthority
Holyflare (0) : Hopeless1der, syllogism
Hopeless1der (1) : Mattchew, Cephiro, Mattchew, StorrZerg
Chairman Ray (6) : syllogism, Onegu, Sn0_Man, Grackaroni, Skanjab1s, justanothertownie, Stutters695
Stutters695 (7) : Sn0_Man, Blazinghand, raynpelikonoshi, ChairmanRay, StorrZerg, Cephiro, Sn0_Man, Secret Vote

Not voting (0) :
Stutters has been lynched.

I am concerned about are the "useless votes" i.e. solo votes on people not up for lynch
Holyflare (Blazinghand)
Mocsta (Cephiro)
Hopeless1der (Cephiro)
Vayne (Grackeroni)
Mattchew (Hopeless1der)


+ Show Spoiler [Palmar lynch] +
On October 19 2013 05:10 You-Know-Who wrote:
VOTE COUNT:


End of Day 1: Palmar was lynched.

Palmar (12) : Grackeroni, Pandain, VayneAuthority, LoneMeow, I-be-Pro, Cephiro (X), Syllogism, Cephiro, LastArgument, justanothertownie, Sn0_Man, StorrZerg, Mocsta
Cephiro (2) : supersoft (X), raynpelikonoshi (X), LastArgument (X), I-be-Pro (X), Syllogism (X), LastArgument (X), EchelonTee, Sn0_Man (X), Mattchew, Stutters695 (X), Hopeless1der (X), Mocsta (X), Holyflare (X), justanothertownie (X)
Sn0_Man (2) : StorrZerg (X), supersoft, Mattchew (X), Skanja1bs
Mattchew (2) : Pandain (X), Holyflare, Mocsta (X), Onegu, Cephiro (X)
StorrZerg (2) : Mattchew (X), raynpelikonoshi, Stutters695
VayneAuthority (1) : Yamato77, Hopeless1der (X), raynpelikonoshi (X), Pandain (X)
raynpelikonoshi (1) : supersoft (X), Blazinghand
Stutters695 (1) : Sn0_Man (X), Hopeless1der
Blazinghand (0) : Mocsta (X)
Hopeless1der (0) : LastArgument (X)
Onegu (0) : EchelonTee (X)
Skanja1bs (0) : raynpelikonoshi (X)
Yamato77 (0) : Skanja1bs (X)

Not voting (1) : Palmar

Holyflare (Cephiro -> Mattchew)
Mocsta (Mattchew -> Cephiro -> BH -> Palmar)
Hopeless1der (Vayne -> Cephiro -> Stutters)
Vayne (Palmar)
Mattchew (Storrzerg -> Sn0_Man -> Cephiro)



In Summary:
[Holyflare] (Cephiro -> Mattchew) ; (Blazinghand)
[Mocsta] (Mattchew -> Cephiro -> BH -> Palmar) ; (Cephiro)
[Hopeless1der] (Vayne -> Cephiro -> Stutters) ; (Cephiro)
[Vayne] (Palmar) ; (Grackeroni)
[Mattchew] (Storrzerg -> Cephiro -> Stutters) ; (Hopeless1der)



vayne looks pretty bad for two immobile votes. Will need to assess reasoning.

(1) Palmar
On October 18 2013 13:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Palmar

I trust pandain so far from our QT and I don't see the strong day 1 town play that everyone was talking about in thug life ( where he was scum)

This is not even close to the same but i could see it as kind of a defeatist "scum twice in a row ffs" sort of thing. awaiting some more of his posts.
I can't have a go for trusting Pandain because I had a town read on Pandain; but this is a non-committal vote in its finest form.

(2) Cephiro
On October 18 2013 22:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
as stated earlier im waiting for his follow up posts with his slight scum reads to see where he is going with this. if he doesnt deliver before deadline lynch cephiro. I won't be around for deadline.
Interesting; so how did Grackeroni get voted Day 2?

(3) End of night post
On October 20 2013 05:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
indeed, pandain started with his town meta and then was unable to keep it up. echelontee was obvious scum so good shot there, surprised about lonemeow since its impossible to tell people like that alignment as far as im aware.

should be plenty obvious im town now with the harry potter red flip. I could only know that main characters could be scum if I was scum. I think the rest of our house is town FYI

This is just odd.
If ET was obvious scum, why was there no discussion on him in Vaynes filter?
What is the point of this commentary about pandain/lonemeow.
This reads to me as someone that feels compelled to talk, but does not know what to say.
Yet, he is clearly aware of his limited filter, as he is quick to dismiss his main character post confirming him town. I will assume, that was the purpose of the post; and the above is fluff.

(Post in question)
On October 18 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
I dont give a shit, they said that in golden sun too and the 4 main characters of the game were all blue roles but nobody knew the flavor thankfully. Im confirmed town as far as im concerned until a main character flips scum.


(4) Cephiro
On October 20 2013 05:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 05:33 syllogism wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:35 Pandain wrote:
I'm back and still don't have much time. Someone explain why cep hiro is massive bandwagon now despite his posts from when I was here?

I don't think Pandain would have posted this at the time when Cephiro had 11 votes if Cephiro is mafia, although people were starting to get second thoughts at the time.



cephiro isn't mafia so either way we were going to mislynch. too bad palmar never posted again, i waited forever.
Its not clear at all why Cephiro suddenly isn't mafia. Previously, Cephiro was his back-up plan???

(5) Pushing low-credit players
On October 20 2013 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
i think we should lynch JAT actually based on the QT. he seems extremely mad, like some one that just lost 3 allies.

Palmar; Cephiro; JAT all had low town credit. Recurring theme now; no reasoning and cannon fodder.

(6) Interesting Post
On October 20 2013 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
good catch there hopeless, mafia first then a bunch of town in a list post is a verry common mafia thing since they think about their allies first. Mattchew is town.
In response to Hopeless1der: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20019715 stating that Mattchew, Storr, Vayne are town.
Vaynes response: Mattchew is Town (Where is commentary on Storr/Vayne.....)

(7) Possible Lie
On October 20 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 07:29 Mocsta wrote:
On October 20 2013 05:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
indeed, pandain started with his town meta and then was unable to keep it up. echelontee was obvious scum so good shot there, surprised about lonemeow since its impossible to tell people like that alignment as far as im aware.

should be plenty obvious im town now with the harry potter red flip. I could only know that main characters could be scum if I was scum. I think the rest of our house is town FYI

I haven't had a dedicated read of Vayne.. but this post sticks out to me.

I can't put my finger on it, but, for a summary post, its got a scummy-vibe about it.


seems pretty straightforward to me, i don't have much to add this game. may or may not be bitter that im role-less in an experimental game.

He has suggest heavily he is Hermime? Flavour suggested by all flips suggests that that role will have abilities. "Role-less" seems too convenient.

(8) Vayne is reading the game carefully
On October 20 2013 09:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
yamato died in the champions game so he's pretty out of excuses. this is why you dont need to lynch yamato earlier as I stated at the beginning. He grows bored of scum and just stops doing anything except being mad
This was in response to a series of thoughts I wrote within a spoiler in an already big post.
For someone reading the game this carefully, I would expect him to be more involved with getting town into a good position.

(9) Reasoning for Grack
On October 20 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I had to pick from that list I would want to lynch grack first since he will never reveal his alignment. learned from thug life that he is apt to troll as both alignments so that would be my first pick.

This is extremely weak; and ties into the concept of Palmar/Cephiro/Jat

(10) Opposite opinion to the whole thread
On October 20 2013 12:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 12:48 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 20 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I had to pick from that list I would want to lynch grack first since he will never reveal his alignment. learned from thug life that he is apt to troll as both alignments so that would be my first pick.

The difference is I will actually start playing soon. You will not. <3


the real difference is there not a currently residing confirmed scum in my house...and I heavily agree with hopeless' analysis. Leaving you and holy. Holy looks better by far so there you have it.
This reads exactly like his vote on Palmar. Because of analysis from Player "X" I am voting you !
Funny, that now he agrees Storr is town, whereas, there has been zero comment/interaction previously.

(11) The Kicker
On October 21 2013 02:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
I dont understand the rage post involving grack considering I made it perfectly clear that I would lynch grack over you holyflare but you are the 2 most suspect to me.
This post off a glance makes perfect sense. There is a cop check in Hufflepuff; find who the scum is...however, pretty much all the people I have town reads on where trying to find the other 2 scum as well. Ultimately, we didn't even lynch a person in Hufflepuff. Vayne on the other hand is more than happy with his actions slumping purely to cop check.
So yes, off a glance, Vaynes actions are what you would expect of town. But based on how the game actually progressed, his mentality is not congruent with where town was.

(12) Feigns responsibility again
On October 22 2013 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
yoyo so obviously grack isnt being lynched who should I vote for? preferably some input from some obviously town people. I read over the last 10 pages and couldn't understand what is going on
Not really much more to say to this.

(13) Consistency
On October 22 2013 14:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
zero chance I ever save yamato's spot for stutters, as I said in our QT I think everyone is town except possibly JAT. For starters, I didn't even have internet during the lynch today. loL
Somehow, is back to JAT. Zero reasoning of course.



Vayne is scum.

He has had some questionable interactions that in isolation I can waive via benefit of the dobut.
However, now that 2 day cycles has expired; the examination of his filter holistically clearly shows a mindset indicative of accepting zero responsibility/accountability; zero scum hunting; and zero congruency with town.

Vayne is scum, and should be the next lynch/vig target.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 22 2013 06:32 GMT
#2848
On October 22 2013 15:14 Grackaroni wrote:
VayneAuthority was just temp banned for 2 days by zatic.

That account was created on 2012-10-18 05:37:07 and had 3432 posts.

Reason: Take your flamewar elsewhere.
LOL. Better get that replacement hunt going

DAMN IT.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 22 2013 06:33 GMT
#2849
I haven't read Mocsta's case yet but I think I can produce a quick tldr

On October 22 2013 15:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Cleeeeeeeaarly Vayne was angry with the state of his mafia team!

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
October 22 2013 06:34 GMT
#2850
On October 22 2013 15:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't read Mocsta's case yet but I think I can produce a quick tldr

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 15:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Cleeeeeeeaarly Vayne was angry with the state of his mafia team!



lol
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:36 GMT
#2851
On October 22 2013 04:16 Mattchew wrote:
i will not vote my town read stutters, i will not vote CR, i will not vote cephiro.

I will only lynch within hufflepuff


This guy is very adament. There are 2 more scum if he thinks 1 is in hufflepuff, why is he so against lynching outside of hufflepuff?

also:

On October 22 2013 04:44 Mattchew wrote:
hey syllo, cr is probs town and you should be leading the switch... where you at broski


This is typical give your vote to a towny because you don't want to be responsible syndrome that people totally jumped all over stutters for but then.....

On October 22 2013 04:47 Mattchew wrote:
when CR flips town i will be confirmed mmkay? and stutters will no longer be a town read for me... far from it


How does that even make sense: I'm not going to vote this guy but when he flips town I MUST BE SAFE.

On October 22 2013 04:50 Mattchew wrote:
i dont care enough about ray dying to amass a vote switch onto stutters


.................................. what the actual fuck? He doesn't want to vote them because town reads but he doesn't care, seems quite comfortable wasting 96 more hours of his time on lynching into nothingness?

His whole filter of this event is that he wants to win the game but then doesn't give a shit if his 2 town reads are getting lynched off. He finds it weird that people are voting ray when he appears townlike when posting but doesn't even place his vote to save ray, he just doesn't care? I find this wanting to win the game and avoiding a decision a bit of a contradiction. It was 6-6, a no lynch, where was his vote??

On October 22 2013 04:58 You-Know-Who wrote:
VOTE COUNT DAY 2:


Blazinghand (1) : StorrZerg, raynpelikonoshi, Mocsta, Grackaroni, Holyflare, syllogism, Onegu
Mattchew (0) : Mocsta, Onegu, raynpelikonoshi
Cephiro (2) : Mocsta, Sn0_Man, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der, Stutters695
Mocsta (0) : syllogism, Hopeless1der, Blazinghand
Grackaroni (1) : VayneAuthority
Holyflare (0) : Hopeless1der, syllogism
Hopeless1der (1) : Mattchew, Cephiro, Mattchew, StorrZerg
Chairman Ray (6) : syllogism, Onegu, Sn0_Man, Grackaroni, Skanjab1s, justanothertownie, Stutters695
Stutters695 (7) : Sn0_Man, Blazinghand, raynpelikonoshi, ChairmanRay, StorrZerg, Cephiro, Sn0_Man, Secret Vote

Not voting (0) :
Stutters has been lynched.


On someone totally irrelevant. He calls them town reads and his vote acts like they're town reads but they are seemingly "meh" town reads because he doesn't care if they get lynched, he is wasting time between days. If it was a no-lynch then that's 1 less person we could get a potential read off of.

His townread on stutters was also a pathetic reason.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 22 2013 06:40 GMT
#2852
deja vu ey holyflare
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:41 GMT
#2853
That's the major thing that sticks out to me for that last vote. The rest are all "which lurker is worse"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:41 GMT
#2854
Yeh, deja vu. The only thing that confuses me is the secret vote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:44 GMT
#2855
Like BH started the stutters as an alternative to Ceph/CR, they were both lurkers but he gave the reason that ray was fresh blood and stutters wouldn't really change, which makes a lot of sense. However, mattchew said that ray could only post one hour a day but that didn't change anyones mind, why not? People still jumped ship to stutters over ray even after that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:47 GMT
#2856
They're both shitty lurkers, what difference did it make who got lynched off at that point? What was so convincing that they just HAD to switch?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 06:47 GMT
#2857
Let me check who those people were, hang on.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
October 22 2013 06:50 GMT
#2858
On October 22 2013 15:44 Holyflare wrote:
Like BH started the stutters as an alternative to Ceph/CR, they were both lurkers but he gave the reason that ray was fresh blood and stutters wouldn't really change, which makes a lot of sense. However, mattchew said that ray could only post one hour a day but that didn't change anyones mind, why not? People still jumped ship to stutters over ray even after that.


i dion't understand what's your problem with my reasoning
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 22 2013 06:53 GMT
#2859
Bh.

Agree on vayne or not
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
October 22 2013 06:56 GMT
#2860
On October 22 2013 15:53 Mocsta wrote:
Bh.

Agree on vayne or not


i didn't read your case cause vayne is probably getting modkilled
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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