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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 21 2013 16:34 GMT
#2321
On October 22 2013 01:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:27 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn

Frankly I think the odds of hitting mafia outside hufflepuff is roughly the same as in hufflepuff.

It's not about the odds. They trust StorrZerg. They have a lot of townreads. People should know who is scum, at least 50%. Why are they not even pressuring those people? They just tell everyone else to "shut up" about their house.

-rayn

There's been a lot of discussion revolving around the issue already and likely more in their QT. Everyone in hufflepuff is fairly active and has to stay that way. I would rather have them find mafia outside the house, as that is useful information and I would prefer killing people who aren't playing the game and may be mafia (bh,yamato, maybe stutters).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#2322
I'm so sick of this bull shit i called storr out for it earlier in the qt with a rage post about how he is SO sure on everyone being town just because of like 1 post, he put in no fucking analysis, the only person i can say has was hopeless, although storr has definitely now. Hopeless left out grack who is a HUGE part of pandain's filter? Why? Mattchew's reqds are nothing but spouting off storrs post on pandain. It's a fucking joke/travesty. If anything I'm leaning on mattchew.

However, bh is scum, demotivated because pf 3 scum deaths night and can't be fucked to play. He still hasn't claimed his role. Lynch that fucker.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#2323
On October 22 2013 01:34 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:27 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn

Frankly I think the odds of hitting mafia outside hufflepuff is roughly the same as in hufflepuff.

It's not about the odds. They trust StorrZerg. They have a lot of townreads. People should know who is scum, at least 50%. Why are they not even pressuring those people? They just tell everyone else to "shut up" about their house.

-rayn

There's been a lot of discussion revolving around the issue already and likely more in their QT. Everyone in hufflepuff is fairly active and has to stay that way. I would rather have them find mafia outside the house, as that is useful information and I would prefer killing people who aren't playing the game and may be mafia (bh,yamato, maybe stutters).

Do you think ceph is legit "playing the game" at this point?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 21 2013 16:37 GMT
#2324
On October 22 2013 01:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:34 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:27 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn

Frankly I think the odds of hitting mafia outside hufflepuff is roughly the same as in hufflepuff.

It's not about the odds. They trust StorrZerg. They have a lot of townreads. People should know who is scum, at least 50%. Why are they not even pressuring those people? They just tell everyone else to "shut up" about their house.

-rayn

There's been a lot of discussion revolving around the issue already and likely more in their QT. Everyone in hufflepuff is fairly active and has to stay that way. I would rather have them find mafia outside the house, as that is useful information and I would prefer killing people who aren't playing the game and may be mafia (bh,yamato, maybe stutters).

Do you think ceph is legit "playing the game" at this point?

I'm trying my best to ignore the issue for now. If he is mafia the way he has used his role is very, very confusing and he will have to reveal more about it later, probably tomorrow.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#2325
##Vote: Cephiro
The Palmar vote shenanigans Ceph. Y u do dis?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#2326
On October 22 2013 01:35 Holyflare wrote:
I'm so sick of this bull shit i called storr out for it earlier in the qt with a rage post about how he is SO sure on everyone being town just because of like 1 post, he put in no fucking analysis, the only person i can say has was hopeless, although storr has definitely now. Hopeless left out grack who is a HUGE part of pandain's filter? Why? Mattchew's reqds are nothing but spouting off storrs post on pandain. It's a fucking joke/travesty. If anything I'm leaning on mattchew.

However, bh is scum, demotivated because pf 3 scum deaths night and can't be fucked to play. He still hasn't claimed his role. Lynch that fucker.

What is yamato then?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
October 21 2013 16:40 GMT
#2327
On October 22 2013 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
A) You ignored the palmar vote shenanigans.
B) The highlighted is scummy considering we are discussing things in our QT and can vouch for our reads concerning one another. You should not require OUR reads to form your own. You're stalling and planning to tailor your reads to Hufflepuff sentiment however it can suit you.


A) Sorry, did not mean to. See below.

B) I want to hear your opinion of the QT stuff because it's extremely valuable information that none of us outside has. I don't want to steal your reads, I want to hear them. More importantly, I WANT THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN YOUR QT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. Makes reading into the posts by hufflepuffians much easier.

On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)


On October 19 2013 04:50 Cephiro wrote:
Also for the "Palmar modkill speculation"

Assuming worst case scenario: (Both me and him are town)

If we lynch Palmar -> Palmar dies (-1 Town?)
If we lynch Me -> I die (-1 Town, possibly -2 if palmar gets modkilled and is town)

All aboard the Palmar wagon? >_>


Is there something unclear about this?

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:43 GMT
#2328
On October 22 2013 01:40 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
A) You ignored the palmar vote shenanigans.
B) The highlighted is scummy considering we are discussing things in our QT and can vouch for our reads concerning one another. You should not require OUR reads to form your own. You're stalling and planning to tailor your reads to Hufflepuff sentiment however it can suit you.


A) Sorry, did not mean to. See below.

B) I want to hear your opinion of the QT stuff because it's extremely valuable information that none of us outside has. I don't want to steal your reads, I want to hear them. More importantly, I WANT THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN YOUR QT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. Makes reading into the posts by hufflepuffians much easier.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:50 Cephiro wrote:
Also for the "Palmar modkill speculation"

Assuming worst case scenario: (Both me and him are town)

If we lynch Palmar -> Palmar dies (-1 Town?)
If we lynch Me -> I die (-1 Town, possibly -2 if palmar gets modkilled and is town)

All aboard the Palmar wagon? >_>


Is there something unclear about this?


Yes, the part where you were not going to die and a scumread was an available target. What is your motive for not wanting to push Mattchew at the end of Day1?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:45 GMT
#2329
Syllo does Ceph's narrative make sense to you? Would you in desperation just park your vote on Palmar and be happy you were not dieing? Or would you try to get Mattchew lynched at the same time?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 21 2013 16:46 GMT
#2330
Hows anybody still voting for cephiro?

Jeeeeez.

Will lynch yam over Ceph/BH if stutters improves or doesn't gain traction as a lynch.
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
October 21 2013 16:47 GMT
#2331
I jumped to Mattchew because for a second it looked like it could be happening. I jumped back to Palmar after I realized it's not gonna happen when one of the initiators if I remember correctly (Mocsta), removed his vote from Mattchew. And I wanted to ensure that I do not get lynched myself. In the end as you can see, Palmar won by quite a fair margin.

There really isn't more to that.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 21 2013 16:47 GMT
#2332
I don't know what his narrative is, but I would absolutely vote for almost anyone else to avoid being lynched.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
October 21 2013 16:49 GMT
#2333
Also we definitely should lynch either hope or holy tonight. If all these hufflepuffians believe in Storr & Matt so strongly, that either leaves.

A) Scum is holy or hope (Grack is extremely unlikely to be scum based on his thread presence, and the pandain mason query.)
B) Cop check is bullshit
C) Scum matt managed to talk Storr over to believe in him.

With matt's recent reactions I am very firmly believing it is either hope or holy. Holy looking worse right now in my opinion.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 21 2013 16:51 GMT
#2334
I could see grack being scum but it kinda hinged on ceph scum too
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
October 21 2013 16:52 GMT
#2335
EBWOP: Before someone thinks I did not consider that, B) covers both the possibility of Storr lying, or the check being framed.

So how many others believe there were valid targets in Hufflepuff to be framed, or that there is an unaware miller and no real scum in there?

Occam's Razor, go figure. There's scum in hufflepuff and we should lynch it.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:53 GMT
#2336
Syllo i need you to tell me where you read all of hufflepuff including me and storr without roles and just on game play... Also without the assumption that there has to be 1 scum in there, assume it can be anywhere from 0-5
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#2337
You don't need me to tell that at all. I'm not voting to lynch anyone in hufflepuff today and do not want anyone else to do that either.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#2338
Also i dont really care about the why, just the strength of the read
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#2339
I need that
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
October 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#2340
On October 22 2013 01:55 syllogism wrote:
You don't need me to tell that at all. I'm not voting to lynch anyone in hufflepuff today and do not want anyone else to do that either.


.... Confirmed town.

Plays anti-town.

SYLLO PLEASE.

At least provide a better target if you for some reason don't want to lynch hufflepuff today. With all the information available in the thread, I find it quite clear that lynching in hufflepuff has the highest chance of hitting scum.
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