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On October 07 2013 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 23:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Bussing your teammate happens. But rayn was completely off the map. To bus him day 1 when there's no way he gets lynched is just dumb.
Yes, scum are dumb too sometimes (rayn is the evidence of that) but I just don't see it. No, the point is, RISEN DIDNT ACTUALLY PUSH RAYN. He just posted a case and fucked off. Then BH and you started getting into it. And holyflare.
No, clarity was on a risen lynch. Risen voted sloosh to counteract the fact that he was the reverse wagon. When BH said we could lynch rayne who was risens top scum read (because of his case) he switched over, his post that I linked to you earlier even said why he went onto sloosh "it wasn't a risen lynch". Clarity was against a rayn lynch. In fact when I said the only other person I'd want to lynch is rayn and he said "no that definitely won't happen" or words to that effect. He didn't push rayn because he got butt hurt 24/7 by everyone saying they won't read his cases bla bla for a second time. It would demotivate anyone.
Either way, I will not be voting risen today unless there are some GLARINGLY obvious posts.
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On October 07 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see any reasons in that statement by HF about Risen being townie
Ok HF, if you ignore the Rayn lynch, who do you want to lynch the most?
I really need to read around a bit more, but the people I will be reading are you, marv and dirk.
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On October 07 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 23:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 07 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see any reasons in that statement by HF about Risen being townie
Ok HF, if you ignore the Rayn lynch, who do you want to lynch the most? I really need to read around a bit more, but the people I will be reading are you, marv and dirk. Why are we 3 the scummiest if we ignore the rayn lynch? Come on HF, work with me.
why would I ignore the rayn lynch? Stop working against me
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On October 07 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 23:41 Holyflare wrote:On October 07 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2013 23:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 07 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see any reasons in that statement by HF about Risen being townie
Ok HF, if you ignore the Rayn lynch, who do you want to lynch the most? I really need to read around a bit more, but the people I will be reading are you, marv and dirk. Why are we 3 the scummiest if we ignore the rayn lynch? Come on HF, work with me. why would I ignore the rayn lynch? Stop working against me Because its an exercise to get you to think about Risen being scum Rayn didnt get lynched/was town. Its night. Just do it.
But he was lynched and rayn was scum so what you are asking is somewhat silly.
Risen has been consistent in his case making and style. He makes long winded cases and makes them based off confirmation biased reads. He made his second case on rayn despite being told to improve on making cases. A lot of unnecessary effort went into it and thus when he was shot down again he felt dejected, this wouldn't happen if he was a scum partner with rayn would it, he asked how to improve it, agreed that he could have cut out half of it etc etc. If you're convinced someone is scum you look at everything incriminating which he did, literally everything.
The point you make about not pushing his case is the same point yo made against me at the start too. However, what I wrote above still applies. If you put in all that effort and get shot down a second time you get really really demotivated to push anything.
As for you oats, you have played what I see as the most scummy game. You didn't really push people you just agreed with points and sheeped votes. It's not until day/night 2 that you really begin to make a case on someone. The case was weak in my opinion and you're jackhammering it rather than looking objectively at other people that could indeed be scum.
Marv is a good player so I've heard, the only thing that's made me see him negatively was the BH argument vut as I understand he dislikes BH for out of game reasons. I would have liked him to leave that out of game though for the sake of making this harder. I still need to read up on his posts though because i have somewhat neglected him till now, which can be a total mishap if I've properly misread him. He was convinced sloosh was scum and so didn't do anymore scum hunting and joked at how we were trying which left me questionable.
Dirk was well scummy to start, he obviously had to pick up his posting mishap in order to appear not scummy so I'm not sure i can let him slide. I liked his case on sloosh though it looked very convincing. People have seemingly let him go free.
If i had to target someone it would be you oats
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On October 08 2013 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so Dirk or Holyflare.
Both with horrific opening posts.
So you are targetting me now? What happened to your god given read on risen?
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I've just got in and it was the last thing i saw
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On October 08 2013 07:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 07:01 Holyflare wrote:On October 08 2013 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so Dirk or Holyflare.
Both with horrific opening posts.
So you are targetting me now? What happened to your god given read on risen? See other people are like me. Not reading the thread. Oh no, Im not special  . Ok so Holyflare, Risen is too dick to be scum. He is way too angry at me to be scum. And I was playing along for just the last page cause it was really funny.
are you actually kidding me??? I cannot comprehend your thought processing.........
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You tell me I'm wrong on risen on so many accounts only to suddenly change your mind when marv says he adds risen to his town list?
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brb gotta make dinner quickly, I want to talk about this though!
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On October 08 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
Dinner at 11pm? weirdo.
have law shit from 5-9pm
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oh well shit there was like 3 new pages
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Still wanting a dirk/oats lynch to be honest.
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Just want to point out that rayn was very adament in his argument with me about talking about oats. Disregarding all the dirkzor stuff.
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As in, if dirk is hypothetically town, I'm not actually disregarding what you've said.
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Well, just skimming through the rayn filter, his entire first page is oats and then his whole conversation with me is about oats etc etc. It just seems pretty selective when he was trying to apply pressure to other people. It seems like something a scum would do - see all the arguments on their ally and then pick them apart while applying pressure elsewhere.
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Re-read rayns filter and count the number of times he mentions oats, especially at times when the topic of conversation was not on oats.
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On October 08 2013 08:55 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Re-read rayns filter and count the number of times he mentions oats, especially at times when the topic of conversation was not on oats. Do you believe scum are more likely to associate themselves with their partner any chance they get, or avoid them? Because you're actually convincing me that oats is town
Classic reverse psychology 101.
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Thread sentiment wasn't on oats/dirk at the time when the action was pmd, implying an afk person, implying dirkzor.
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