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On October 08 2013 04:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh lol as if you would push marv/clarity/hf. You would get absolutely SLAMMED. Risen, why would you push me as scum? Also, what trap is there? Its not a setup question. Everything I post you construe as scummy. Thats tunneling Risen. Good townies dont tunnel. I guess you are playing as bad as me if Im town. Sad. Im not even gonna say anything about the Clarity thing because its such a small thing that both scum or town wont bother to check it anyway. You didnt check it. I'm not the one who said it, why should I have been the one to check it? YOU are the one making claims based on bullshit in this trhead,. IM NOT THE ONE WHO HAS TO CHECKK YOUR SHIT FOR YOU, YOU ARE. HOW IS ANYONE THIS FUCKING BAD AT MAFIA. If you're town enjoy being on the list with Mocsta and Geript. If you're scum, get better. You're ass. You're so clearly scum I am shocked, SHOCKED you weren't lynched yesterday. It's a fucking TRAVESTY no one else got their shit together to lynch you yesterday,. I don't know how many people it's going to take saying "Damn Oats that's scummy" before everyone gets their shit together and lynches you. I'm going to have a fucking heart attack talking to you. It makes me want to break down and cry with anger that there exist people like you in this world. People who make it a goal to troll TL mafia games and ruin the enjoyment for other people. What trap?! Anyone who reads any response to a question like that is going to have to run the gambit of "But wouldn't that be something scum would say? But then no, they'd realize that and not say it." before coming to the conclusion that it's pure WIFOM, but the seed has already been placed. Your statement did it's job. It was a pure trap question. Good townies point out scummy shit. I see scummy shit and I point it out. You're trying to discredit me so no one else will listen to me. And slammed for pushing other people? I WANTED MARV LYNCHED LAST NIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME AND TROLLED THE SHIT OUT OF ME. I was even considering that maybe you're just a lemming that marv was riding. I came to the conclusion that maybe you were town and you liked to troll people. You liked to make them upset. You like to ruin their enjoyment of the game because that's what got you off at night. But no. No one is that rotten of a person on TL. If you | ||
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He doesn't read the thread He lies He trolls He didn't vote to lynch rayn He's purposefully playing to his meta I think that should be short enough for people. I'm out until morning. I need to cool off. | ||
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On October 08 2013 07:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Wanna bet Risen still calls me scum? Yup. Dunno about the dirk thing clarity, it seems kinda nullish to me. What else are you gonna say if you vote someone for all the wrong reasons and get caught out for it? You're right, I do still think you're scum. Now you go and discredit my pressure again. You can't just brush people off when you're town. Towns don't discredit the people facing them this hard without anything backing up their discrediting. I'm all about the ignore pressure your posting will speak for itself until you don't speak for yourself. Like all your filter at this point is trolling me. And yet, and yet everyone is focusing on everyone else like I'm completely off base. Will people respond to my "case"? I made it 4 lines long and there's no quotes. It isn't hard. If you're town you should be responding to me before the night ends. | ||
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On October 08 2013 07:46 Clarity_nl wrote: You're saying "he lies" when what he's done is say something about what happened that is wrong, could easily be bad memory Oats trolls as town too. He's not the only one that didnt vote rayn This last point is silly. How is he "purposefully" playing to his meta instead of just playing his meta, how do you tell the difference? Thank you for talking to me. 1) That's fair 2) And that's ok? If you had never played a game with him before and he was doing this what would you think about him? Meta lets people blend way too easily. 3) That's fair, there's marv and dirk, too. I will calm down and look at them, from memory marv is scummier for reasons I have already said and if no one will lynch Oats lynch marv 4) That's fair, I meant it felt so fake, and I was right that it was fake, btw. I feel I should point this out, I called him on faking his shit and the second someone else called him on it he admitted he was faking. | ||
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On October 08 2013 08:04 marvellosity wrote: fact that Risen has me as scummy makes me discount his Oats read somewhat. no way am i the 2nd scummiest dude in the game, and if he thinks i am, then it makes me trust his other reads less. Really? The guy who pushed for BH lynch and admitted it was for OOG reasons, then pressed for sloosh lynch while saying "1 for 1 me bro" when Oats was in thread trolling, then brought up how I switched to sloosh after it was already shown that anyone in my position would prefer to lynch them over themselves. What else have you done other than try to appear town this game marv? I see you posting a lot, but what have you done? I've made cases, real cases that you have continually dismissed. How funny that you dismissed my rayn case even after I said just read the bottom of it? And you say no way are you the 2nd scummiest? You most certainly are. | ||
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On October 08 2013 08:13 Clarity_nl wrote: HOW DOES THAT WORK IF OATS IS SCUM THEN EVERYONE WITH A TOWNREAD ON HIM IS TOWN Oats hasn't flipped. Do you know something I don't? I had a scum read on you d1 and this looks pretty bad to me. | ||
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On October 08 2013 08:16 Clarity_nl wrote: You've been calling him obvious scum all this time and now you're calling everyone with a townread on oats suspicious. >.< It's a layer thing so my #1 scum read is Oats because he's so fucking scummy it hurts. Apparently my feelings on him are bad because they're not wrong but might not be right. Ok. If I take into consideration I'm wrong, then that means Oats is town. If I accept that Oats is town, what should I do? Find the people defending him. Why are you defending him so hard? If anyone bussed rayn I think it would be you, the person who was screaming rayn is NOT a lynch (self-admitted) until the last second. You've been riding that juicy town cred for a while now and all we have to show for it is a sloosh lynch. | ||
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I can only think of this move making sense coming from marv, dirk, or Clarity because it makes no sense for HF to do it. HF has been riding his town cred since day 1 and wouldn't shoot Oats here. Town would mislynch itself into a loss if he was scum and simply shot me or Clarity. He'd have to be trolling to do something like that. It's just a matter of WHY do that for him? I can't see it anywhere making sense. Marv + Show Spoiler + Why is marv alive if he's town? It's n2 and if he's town he's usually the most important/useful person in the thread, instead we have BH d1 and rayn dodge, sloosh d2 (though if we're being honest marv wasn't the only one on sloosh, but why didn't he put pressure on Clarity for last minute bus and he did on me and he didn't want to lynch Oats with me), and now what? Marv knew that Oats would get lynched today if he killed me in the night and when Oats flipped town he would be the lynch day 4. How does marv live through two lynches when he's been called out and has gone for the 1 for 1 gambit, been wrong, and not lynched his partner, and tried to troll lynch and got doctor killed (but it was totes emotion guys)? He throws a wrench into things. By killing Oats in the night he discredits me because I was wrong about Oats and sets up for the "anyone but marv" lynch today. Anyone but marv gets lynched and then he night kills me tomorrow (assuming he doesn't get me lynched today) leaving marv/3 other people who probably won't lynch him because he has TWENTY SEVEN PAGES OF POSTING IS THIS REAL? Boom, marv wins the game. I bet when he thought this up he was so smug. Marv is smug whether scum OR town, but I bet he was sitting there chuckling to himself especially hard on this one. If marv is alive at day 4 he isn't getting lynched. I will be dead and/or everyone else will just let him slither his way into "Oh I would NEVER do all this as scum, NEVER! Tehehehehe" Something that actually makes me not want to lynch marv here is that he wanted to do a 1 for 1 trade he was so sure sloosh was scum. I offered the same thing to Pandain and Pandain scoffed at it in Noir and he turned out to be scum. Clarity + Show Spoiler + Clarity was suspicious to me early on, but as soon as rayn called me town I nailed him and when Oats started trolling me I tunneled onto him. It's Oats' fault and I'm never going to play with him again, he's as bad as Mocsta and Geript. Going back to Clarity, I find it funny that he swapped back with so little time left. He pretty much guarantees a sloosh lynch day 2 with his move with things staying as is and sloosh swap to rayn to save himself. I've been catching flak for a potential bus all game, but because I don't ride marv I don't get to be super awesome. If Clarity is scum, I can see him shooting Oats over this On October 08 2013 07:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh man. Lol Clarity is playing a really good scumgame then. but that's a stretch. I don't see anything else in Oats filter recently that would make Clarity shoot Oats. If Clarity is scum why not ride an Oats/Dirk/marv lynch? That's three people he could have for today and tomorrow to lynch. It makes no sense for him to do this. BUT MAYBE he's afraid because people have been alerted to his last minute swap to rayn over sloosh now so he is afraid of going to day 4 as someone with a potential bus case being formed against him. It's a crazy play, but is anyone seriously considering lynching him? Before people might have considered him d4, now maybe he felt he had a better shot making people go crazy. This is actually a better reason to shoot Oats than the quoted statement. Or maybe he shot Oats because Oats was screaming that Clarity was totes town along with marv and he wanted to lynch dirk/marv and people would begin to suspect why such a strong town read for so many people was still alive? This doesn't apply to HF, in my opinion, simply because the game would have been so much easier for HF as scum to kill sloosh. Clarity's swap gets him town cred while lynching someone who was going to get lynched d2 anyways following a sloosh lynch. This seems really paranoid to me. If this were the case I'd have to accept that Clarity bussed his teammate with minutes left d1 when he wasn't a scum read for many people, then shot Oats while he was still not that high a priority for anyone because he was afraid of going into day 4 with a potential bus case developing on him. Ugh, it's twisting my brain around in circles and this feels ranty. It's such a needless risk for Clarity here. Dirk + Show Spoiler + Dirk has cases on him, he's been useless all game. He defends himself without pushing much of anything. He's the clear lynch here come day 3 with Oats gone and a town seemingly unwilling to lynch marv, so why shoot Oats? I think the same thing applying to marv here applies to Dirk. How does Dirk live through two lynches? How does he get himself to the finish line? He throws a wrench into things. He makes people think themselves out of his lynch. He rides me to a marv lynch today and then Does something fucking NUTS tomorrow to not get himself lynched. Is it possible this hail mary is his only option here? Has he essentially given up? Why not go for Oats/marv lynches is the thing holding me back. Presumably he's got my backing for both of those lynches, so why throw a wrench into it? I can only think he would throw a wrench into it because he felt the rest of town wanted to lynch him today over Oats or marv. It should be noted that I gave dirk a pass because I didn't envision a scenario in which one of Oats and marv weren't scum. That was stupid of me. Dirk might be counting on me to continue to be stupid, and I'm here to let him down. Logically, Dirk is the most likely to try something like this because desperation. Four pages of filter isn't necessarily damning assuming quality over quantity, but most of his filter is defense. Here is what bothers me most in his filter (two quotes), double spoilers ftw + Show Spoiler + On October 05 2013 00:30 Dirkzor wrote: Risen I don't know why you are complicating things. Marv played really pro-town until the BH thing which I don't think I'll ever truely understand. I don't understand why he would do it as either town or scum so I'm left with believing his claim to hate BH. Instead you should read my case on Sloosh. Say you agree and we lynch sloosh. I'm coming away from this with the feeling that Dirk knows marv is town. He doesn't say marv is a town read, but he certainly implies it HEAVILY. It's the kind of thing someone would say if they later wanted to go back on what they said earlier. What marv did was anti-town, plain and simple. Qualifying it is scummy. The second quote should have set me off earlier, but I guess that's what happens when someone trolls you. + Show Spoiler + On October 05 2013 17:14 Dirkzor wrote: ##Vote Sloosh Sloosh your "case" leaves much to be desired. You kinda scoot over everyone. If you really think I'm the last scum make a real case. Just on me. Not everyone. I'm sure you'll see that I ain't that bad. I'll look into Oats since I'm not really sure about him. Just because Sloosh looks like the clear target we have to keep this going just in case. Oats what did you mean by this: Seems fairly straightforward to me. Oats wanted to know why sloosh wasn't in my earlier list. This reads to me as Dirk trying to blend as if he is contributing without actually contributing, a clear sign of scum. Oats then goes on to go attack mode on Dirk. This lends credence to the fact that Dirk has to make a big play in order to live past day 3. But why doesn't Dirk know that everyone else will simply see through that? He does. He simply has no other option. Do nothing? Get lynched d3 or d4. Do something? Town might stumble and kill themselves off. Most logically it's Dirk. Big play, but still logical, it's Marv. Only way I see this happening is if he's afraid of bus momentum starting and wants to throw a wrench into the works play, Clarity. Jesus fuck if HF is scum and did this I just want to know why? Regardless, I am going to go to sleep. Maybe HF is in the same boat as Clarity and wanted to make town panic and scramble so people wouldn't look into him more closely in spite of people continuously saying "I'm reading HF's filter and he's coming up town" but then why is HF alive? That's the same thing I'm wondering about marv, though. Maybe he's afraid of something he posted coming to light, though, and decided to throw a wrench into the mix. I am going to read Clarity and HF's filters very closely tomorrow, but I think after thinking about this and thinking it through Dirk is the lynch. ##vote: Dirkzor | ||
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And I'm not mad marv, I'm just tired. | ||
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You did it. In spite of BH warning everyone and everyone going down with your name on their lips you've managed to win it. Congratulations marv. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:23 marvellosity wrote: If you think I am mafia, please refer back to this post later on. I wish to lynch slOosh. If we lynch slOosh and he flips town, then you can lynch me straight after. And if I argue you can just quote this post. I'm happy to take the 1 for 1. Then discredit me preemptively so no one will ever lynch you as long as you stay active in the game On October 05 2013 00:24 marvellosity wrote: how is it dumb? from Risen's perspective, I'm guaranteeing myself a loss as mafia. which i'm happy to take. | ||
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