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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#350
I'm betting he has a null~town read on me.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 02 2013 20:06 GMT
#352
marv and I, you see, we're like this *makes hand gesture*
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#356
On October 03 2013 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to understand what's going on with BH and Oats, but it's really hard.
Everything else has been said pretty much so no need to repeat it.


Is there something about my scumread on oats that you don't understand? I'd be glad to explain and expand.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 02 2013 20:22 GMT
#363
BTW someone asked me this and I forgot to reply, I forget who: if someone claimed something obviously false like jester or cop or something in this open setup, whether or not I would vote them would be dependent on like how serious I think their fakeclaim is. We're evaluating the possibility of a troll/joke vs scum who didn't read the setup. If someone got bored nad said something like "clearly I am the cop u guise" that's not a reason to vote. If someone seriously and genuinely fakeclaims cop then that's a different story-- I'd vote him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 02 2013 20:31 GMT
#365
still shaving ocelot. don't particularly like sloosh. i see that there is some hubbub about dirk but will need to read through again before weighing in.

oats mostly flailing and trying to look real. he isn't.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#367
Risen probably decided clarity was scum then analyzed him rather than vice versa
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 01:46 GMT
#388
still involved in ocelot hairdressing. what's the case on Dirk again. someone link pox
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 03:55 GMT
#393
he's been on my dick. just finished ocelot barbery, time to look at clarity dirk and sloosh
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 04:33 GMT
#396
On October 03 2013 13:31 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 12:55 Blazinghand wrote:
he's been on my dick. just finished ocelot barbery, time to look at clarity dirk and sloosh

Do you two have such a history of such being upons?


ok i must be having a brain fart because I really don't understand this question. what is "such being upons" and who is "you two"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 06:29 GMT
#399
On October 03 2013 13:47 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 13:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 03 2013 13:31 slOosh wrote:
On October 03 2013 12:55 Blazinghand wrote:
he's been on my dick. just finished ocelot barbery, time to look at clarity dirk and sloosh

Do you two have such a history of such being upons?


ok i must be having a brain fart because I really don't understand this question. what is "such being upons" and who is "you two"

You and clarity. Does he have a history of "beeing on your dick"?


not that I recall, but people love being on my dick.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 06:51 GMT
#402
Okay, doing some thinking and reading.

I'll also say that I'm suspicious of clarity for the fact that he's been talking a lot but most of it has been asking questions or sheeping. His vote of Dirk is scummy imo. Now that I've had time to think about it, I don't award him any credit for explaining my thoughts. this is something scum can and does easily do to look like a contribution. It wasn't worthless though so it's not a scumtell.

That being said, I don't think clarity is actively disrupting the thread. In his questions an attempts to interact, although they can be incoherent, they look like he's trying to develop reads and interact with other players in a constructive way. I don't like that he doesn't have any serious long posts with analysis. His conversation is good, but he hasn't seriously followed it up. That being said, Clarity is generally active and in the thread. Like Dirk, he hasn't posted enough analysis, but at least he's around. I think his alignment will become more clear one way or another as the game goes forwards. I am not willing to lynch Clarity today.


I don't like Dirk's entrance into the thread either. It doesn't make a huge amount of sense. he hasn't played amazingly, but this post in particular (LINK) gives him a little bit of credit in my eyes. He's willing to admit he is wrong later, but ultimately his contributions today are lacking. His filter is short and his only serious posts (link) (link) are summary or backtracked. Due to the fact that he hasn't produced serious analysis or things he has been held to, I am willing to lynch Dirk today. He is not my top option however.

I don't like sloosh's reasoning for voting clarity. scummy, but not oats tier.

I swing around now to Rayne. He is normally a big poster and interacts a lot. He writes cases, he pushes, he and I usually have serious interactions by this point in the game. This game, though, he seems quiet and subdued. I don't like this. His entire filter is questions, insinuations, questioning insinuations, and weird one-liners where he seems not to understand things. This is really not what I'd expect from rayne. His stances are all soft and fluffy, and he's really not contributing and maing his opinions and stances known. Rayne isn't afraid of that kind of thing. Rayne isn't afraid to lead.

Not normally, at least.

##unvote Oatsmaster
##vote Rayne


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430498&user=raynpelikoneet&view=all

LOOK AT RAYN'S FILTER. It's not the filter of a town rayne.

I know it's majority lynch, so I am currently willing to shenannie onto Oats or Dirk, but please, take a look at what i've liked and at rayne's overall filter. He's revealed nothing. He's pushed nothing seriously. He is all smoke and mirrors and no substance.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 06:53 GMT
#403
On October 03 2013 15:38 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 09:58 slOosh wrote:
On October 03 2013 08:26 marvellosity wrote:
alrighty. ty for your input ^^ expecting that Risen shizzle from you though :>

There's nothing too compelling in the case on Clarity. There's a potentially good point in how clarity retracted his townread of me, but given clarity's explanation and the fact that he actually draws attention to it is a plus for him.

He threw out his big case, and then just sits on it. There's no trying to convince people he is right, or even bring some attention to it, then he goes into sulking mode (immune to lynch? really?) without either trying to boil down his case into succinct points, or moving on to other stuff cause maybe he is wrong and it is a good time to regroup.

Seems like pretense of contribution to me.

Your current evaluation of Risen?


Also clarity, I can see you angling for my lynch or something. Anything you want to ask me directly?

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On October 03 2013 12:18 slOosh wrote:
Booorinngg

The following quotes contain wiffle-waffle: Agree / Disagree?
On October 03 2013 03:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think that's just blazinghand being blazinghand. He likes numbers and theorycrafting so despite having a scumread on oats he considers possibilities where he's town and justifies the lynch in that case.
That's my interpretation anyway.

He has contributed quite a bit, I don't have a solid read on him but I think he's a poor lynch today.

I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on oats, and please comment on dirk as well.

On October 03 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, it's not improbable for him to be scum doing all this rng business but I can't tell. He's clearly putting effort in and that's cool.


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On October 03 2013 12:20 slOosh wrote:
I feel good about this one.
##Vote: Clarity_nl


Wat? Explain how you went from "Nothing to compelling" to then add some wiffle-waffle and suddenly you feel good about it?



I'm no longer willing to lynch dirk today
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 06:54 GMT
#404
So Dirk, i'd like you to take a look at rayne's startlingly analysis and push-free (no real cases!) filter and let me know what you think. Your only real comment on rayn (link) was that he would be a safe place to park your vote. What do you think of him now?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 07:01 GMT
#406
Sounds good! Just to reiterate, contrast his filter this game with his play in Sicilian: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884&user=raynpelikoneet&view=all

he had posts like this (link) and like this (link) or this (link) early in the game. I'm talking serious cases, calling people out, pushing, following up, convincing other players of his thoughts. And he HAD thoughts. Rayn as town forms reads and pushes them. He follows through. He leads.

Where is that rayn this game? no-where. This is scum rayn, pure and simple. He's been around, he's had a lot of time, and he's given us squat. he normally delivers far more with far less. Lynch him. lynch him hard.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 07:04 GMT
#407
Now, granted, scum rayn has in the past been active and pushed things. But let me put it this way: this departure from his normal play is not town-driven in any way. Like, WTF. There's no explanation (though he'll probably spew some crap about being busy or demotivated or something) that justifies this massive change in how he plays (a massive change for the worse).

This isn't a change of style, or a change of plan. this is a change of usefulness and townieness. he's scum!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 07:24 GMT
#414
On October 03 2013 16:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man, BH, you know that Rayn can play scum much better then that.


not a legitimate argument, since he can also play town much better than this. It would be one thing if he were, say, not in the thread very much at all, or if he were trying a different style. But he's clearly around and posting, and it's not a stylistic change.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 07:25 GMT
#415
brb ocelot barbery 9 hours
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 07:36 GMT
#419
On October 03 2013 16:29 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 16:25 Blazinghand wrote:
brb ocelot barbery 9 hours


Seriously I need to know this. I didn't know what ocelots where so I googled. Its a leopard. Barbery on a leopard? What the fuck am I missing?


is joke. i sleep
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 15:23 GMT
#638
On October 03 2013 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
by the way - scum don't have to, because you play so terribly that town do the job for them.

you should probably think about that a little.


this is pretty sexy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 03 2013 15:27 GMT
#643
On October 03 2013 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare. First of all, this is bullshit:
Show nested quote +
Dirkzor, Risen, Sloosh, Rayn and Oats (clarity has been mentioned too) should be eliminated 1 by 1 in terms of rating of their overall posting to determine who is the optimal lynch for day 1 and ultimately who will be most useful in an endgame lylo scenario.

Why would you say this?
Also why did you hide your vote on Oats behind RNG as it was not RNG for you?


I, um, might have coached holyflare in a previous game and taught him indirectly that one of town's goals is to eliminate LYLO Liabilities: (link). Granted, in that game he was the cop, but he's probably just parroting things he's learned from me.
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