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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 27 2013 17:57 GMT
#701
On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
how about I favor a koshi/yamato lynch but do not favor a rng lynch?
still voting koshi though

##vote: koshi

Why is Koshi scum, Shiao

And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so.


I guess you don't really support an RNG lynch if you're not voting Koshi right
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 27 2013 17:57 GMT
#702
koshi is not that rapid fire style townie I would expect from him. Also I really do not agree with the reasoning he offered when I asked him about the Grack read
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 27 2013 17:58 GMT
#703
On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
how about I favor a koshi/yamato lynch but do not favor a rng lynch?
still voting koshi though

##vote: koshi

Why is Koshi scum, Shiao

And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so.

I know you support RNG but even then if the RNG landed on my strongest town read I would push against it.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 27 2013 17:59 GMT
#704
##Unvote
Reading.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 27 2013 17:59 GMT
#705
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 27 2013 18:00 GMT
#706
night.
I fully expect Palmar to reconsider his read on yamato come tmr, as well as some dudes claiming roles.
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:00 GMT
#707
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 27 2013 18:01 GMT
#708
On September 28 2013 02:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
how about I favor a koshi/yamato lynch but do not favor a rng lynch?
still voting koshi though

##vote: koshi

Why is Koshi scum, Shiao

And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so.


I guess you don't really support an RNG lynch if you're not voting Koshi right

So BH please tell me what you expect.
let's say I am the only one in support of an RNG lynch by the end of the day.
Do you expect me to keep my vote on Koshi despite it being theoretically useless at this point just so i can stand to my convictions/please you? 'Cause that ain't happening. I mean, I do like pleasing you, I am a giver by nature, but some things even I just can't handle.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 27 2013 18:01 GMT
#709
On September 27 2013 15:42 Blazinghand wrote:
FT your objection that RNG can't truly be random is missing the real point of RNG

Explain this to me BH. If RNG isn't practically applicable in this game, what use is it to discuss it? You want to spend time discussing what we would do if we were able to truly randomly decide a lynch? What purpose does that serve?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:02 GMT
#710
WoS backpedaling and not addressing concerns/explaining his thought process is concerning as well. Seems like he's just throwing random stuff out there at this point
I come in for the scraps
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 27 2013 18:02 GMT
#711
On September 28 2013 03:01 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 15:42 Blazinghand wrote:
FT your objection that RNG can't truly be random is missing the real point of RNG

Explain this to me BH. If RNG isn't practically applicable in this game, what use is it to discuss it? You want to spend time discussing what we would do if we were able to truly randomly decide a lynch? What purpose does that serve?


all of my "wat"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 27 2013 18:03 GMT
#712
On September 28 2013 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
how about I favor a koshi/yamato lynch but do not favor a rng lynch?
still voting koshi though

##vote: koshi

Why is Koshi scum, Shiao

And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so.

I know you support RNG but even then if the RNG landed on my strongest town read I would push against it.

Defeats the entire purpose of RNG. Why can't scum do the exact same thing if the lynch lands on scum then?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 27 2013 18:04 GMT
#713
So is this shitty thing really random?

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dsri/modular-inversion-answer.php?n=19854962&p=19

Why no answer here? And I have been giving in numbers and it doesn't seem all equal. But I guess it is?
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 27 2013 18:04 GMT
#714
On September 28 2013 03:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
WoS backpedaling and not addressing concerns/explaining his thought process is concerning as well. Seems like he's just throwing random stuff out there at this point

Hey Vayne, you've played scum with me. What am I like as scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#715
Man I'm just slapping down some law here. Either people support RNG and vote Koshi and tell others to hop on board, touting the merits of RNG (since if you support RNG you should be able to put together arguments that at least attempt to convince others that it's good) or we stop pretending that RNG is a viable solution. RNG is no longer abstract. It's real. RNG is Koshi.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#716
I am telling you. It never gives 19.
I had a good night of sleep.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#717
On September 27 2013 15:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, the reason the vote on shiaopi is a shit vote is because of how you're framing it. "ShiaoPi is playing below full potential" when the dude was only in thread for an hour and dropped some one-liners is bad reasoning. Like, instead say "ShiaoPi is lurking" because the reason you're voting for him doesn't have shit to do with his potential, or one-liners, or whatever. You're voting him because he was only in-thread for an hour, and barely posted. You're voting him for lurking.

If you're gonna policy a guy for lurking, man up and admit it. Don't try to look like you have some serious analysis going on, FT-- you don't.

Of course it is a shit vote. I wanted ShiaoPi to contribute. It has served its purpose from what I can tell of ShiaoPi's filter. It provided the impetus for a contributing ShiaoPi. That, in itself, is reason enough to justify my actions.

I knew my "reasoning" was weak at best. Consider my motivations of my action; consider the result I am trying to get.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 18:55:48
September 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#718
VOTE COUNT:

yamato77 (4) : VisceraEyes (X), Blazinghand (X), VisceraEyes, Palmar, Oatsmaster, Grackaroni
Grackaroni (2) : Koshi (X), yamato77 (X), VayneAuthority, Koshi, Palmar (X)
VayneAuthority (2) : WaveofShadow, yamato77
WaveofShadow (1) : Oatsmaster (X), raynpelikoneet
FirmTofu (1) : Blazinghand
Oatsmaster (1) : Mr. Cheesecake
Koshi (1) : Grackaroni (X), ShiaoPi
ShiaoPi (0) : FirmTofu (X)
Palmar (0) : VayneAuthority (X)


Not Voting: Everyone else.

Lynch is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently yamato77 is set to be lynched!

If you see your vote (or anyone else's) out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.


+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • VayneAuthority -> Palmar
  • Koshi -> Grackaroni
  • yamato77 -> Grackaroni
  • VayneAuthority -> Grackaroni
  • VisceraEyes -> yamato77
  • Koshi -> --
  • Blazinghand -> yamato77
  • Koshi -> Grackaroni
  • VisceraEyes -> --
  • Palmar -> Grackaroni
  • WaveofShadow -> VayneAuthority
  • Oatsmaster -> WaveofShadow
  • FirmTofu -> ShiaoPi
  • Blazinghand -> FirmTofu
  • yamato77 -> VayneAuthority
  • raynpelikoneet -> WaveofShadow
  • VisceraEyes -> yamato77
  • Mr. Cheesecake -> Oatsmaster
  • Palmar -> yamato77
  • Grackaroni -> Koshi
  • Oatsmaster -> yamato77
  • Grackaroni -> yamato77
  • ShiaoPi -> Koshi
  • FirmTofu -> --


Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#719
On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.

You're scum aren't you. That wasn't even my strategy that was your strategy. terrible reasoning.
"People know about bussing the vanilla scum for the most part so I'd say Grack is our bus of choice" - Vayne.

You were the first one in the QT to mention the idea of bussing.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#720
Well I agree I am total rng.

But really. Do I have to make a list and tell you that this shitty thing isn't random.
I had a good night of sleep.
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