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On October 08 2013 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
Actually what are we talking about we're lynching CR tomorrow I don't even have to defend myself or prove you scum yet Gettin' ahead of the game, baby. Wait so hold on...when people were trying to scumhunt for other people when Solstice was a sure thing, it was scummy of me to stay on Solstice. Is not continuing to push your case now scummy too when we have a sure lynch tomorrow? Oh dear, Pandain.
Means I can sleep
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depending on what happens tonight I might disagree, we'll see
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WoS do you disagree with killing CR tomorrow?
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Vayne this is why I think you're scum.
We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with.
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On October 08 2013 14:41 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:33 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly. I don't think you're reading it right. Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever. The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1. VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now. Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town. Dunno where you currently are on me. But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain. If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through. You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen) Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one. While I agree somewhat with your 'if we had gone with my plan' thing, I don't think it says all that much because I don't really think there was any way you were going to get the entire town to support you over Solstice, and I believe a scum Austin would know this. I've said this before. I am unsure as to which of you or VA is scum, and a shot on one of you WOULD be good, but it presents the same problem as shooting me. If Koshi dies, it doesn't matter who he shoots, unless he hits scum because no one will be able to prove what he did. I'd say leave the night action up to Koshi. If there's one thing I can say about his play this game, at the very least he's been rockin' the cop. If I were scum austin my activity would have been 1/2 what it was yesterday, because I'd be busy yelling at solstice in QT for claiming cop (except cc likely scumbuddy so whatevs). If I were scum, I wouldn't have been trying to get CR lynched for ... more than 72 hours? BEFORE the whole cop thing I was trying to get him lynched. You know who needed him alive, needs him not lynched? Scum. DRB needs MCB ALIVE, so they have another KP tonight. They would rather lose 1 member than lose the other team. Think about that. I was pushing CR before the claim, CR was tied for lead with a whopping 2 votes, but DRB needs to ensure MCB stays alive for another NK. You can say I couldn't push the lynch off solstice onto CR, but I have been pushing CR, and pushing CR as the last MCB for long before the cop claim arose. I also pushed oats as town. At every mislynch, I have undermined the mislynch of choice. If I'm scum, I've actively pushed against ALL mislynches, pushed to lynch the other team out of existence, eliminating HALF of the overall mafia KP, and when VA flips mafia, would have been fighting for a while now with...my own buddy? The VA thing you guys don't see yet, but you will  (hopefully, please no throws)
You are right about this stuff, but who do you have for your scumteam? Because if it's Pandain/VA then essentially you've got the same thing where Pandain has been pushing VA lynch like crazy the whole game, so I wouldn't necessarily put it past you, unfortunately. The only other person who fits imo is Pandain/CC, and I'll admit I could be wrong about CC, though the sac seems a little ridic.
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On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
WoS do you disagree with killing CR tomorrow?
Of course not.
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On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.
We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with.
Yeah and clearly this is the scum route: admitting to the whole thread you may not want to kill confirmed scum. I bet all scum defend their scumbuddies in the open!
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On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.
We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with.
what KP are we lowering exactly? he said he's just going to vest every night. If koshi kills scum tonight I will be gunning for the last scum on the other team, not CR.
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Guys I claim credit for catching CR
On September 28 2013 18:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah CR probably scum
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You guys are so cute together
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On October 08 2013 14:47 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.
We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with. what KP are we lowering exactly? he said he's just going to vest every night. If koshi kills scum tonight I will be gunning for the last scum on the other team, not CR.
Wat.
We...lynch him?
Tomorrow?
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On October 08 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 14:33 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly. I don't think you're reading it right. Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever. The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1. VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now. Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town. Dunno where you currently are on me. But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain. If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through. You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen) Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one. While I agree somewhat with your 'if we had gone with my plan' thing, I don't think it says all that much because I don't really think there was any way you were going to get the entire town to support you over Solstice, and I believe a scum Austin would know this. I've said this before. I am unsure as to which of you or VA is scum, and a shot on one of you WOULD be good, but it presents the same problem as shooting me. If Koshi dies, it doesn't matter who he shoots, unless he hits scum because no one will be able to prove what he did. I'd say leave the night action up to Koshi. If there's one thing I can say about his play this game, at the very least he's been rockin' the cop. If I were scum austin my activity would have been 1/2 what it was yesterday, because I'd be busy yelling at solstice in QT for claiming cop (except cc likely scumbuddy so whatevs). If I were scum, I wouldn't have been trying to get CR lynched for ... more than 72 hours? BEFORE the whole cop thing I was trying to get him lynched. You know who needed him alive, needs him not lynched? Scum. DRB needs MCB ALIVE, so they have another KP tonight. They would rather lose 1 member than lose the other team. Think about that. I was pushing CR before the claim, CR was tied for lead with a whopping 2 votes, but DRB needs to ensure MCB stays alive for another NK. You can say I couldn't push the lynch off solstice onto CR, but I have been pushing CR, and pushing CR as the last MCB for long before the cop claim arose. I also pushed oats as town. At every mislynch, I have undermined the mislynch of choice. If I'm scum, I've actively pushed against ALL mislynches, pushed to lynch the other team out of existence, eliminating HALF of the overall mafia KP, and when VA flips mafia, would have been fighting for a while now with...my own buddy? The VA thing you guys don't see yet, but you will (hopefully, please no throws) You are right about this stuff, but who do you have for your scumteam? Because if it's Pandain/VA then essentially you've got the same thing where Pandain has been pushing VA lynch like crazy the whole game, so I wouldn't necessarily put it past you, unfortunately. The only other person who fits imo is Pandain/CC, and I'll admit I could be wrong about CC, though the sac seems a little ridic. 
Stop fighting with pandain. You're missing stuff and it's night so fighting doesn't do anything all that useful.On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly. I don't think you're reading it right. Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever. The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1. VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now.
I've had pandain now for a while, and once I moved you out of my scum list I had solstice/CR/VA/CC. 2 of those have shown themselves to be scum. The other two WILL show themselves.
Why does solstice claim cop instead of 1 vs 1 cc in thread? (Cuz cc's his buddy)
Why do they pull this stunt? (They need MCB KP at night, can't let CR get lynched)
If you remove the payphone stunt from the equation, eliminate that entirely, how does CC look? Again, I will argue to my death that his "oats is mafia" post is 100% scum. Guaranteed. Full refunds available, anything you need. That post is a scum post and cc is a scum guy.
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On October 08 2013 14:47 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.
We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with. what KP are we lowering exactly? he said he's just going to vest every night. If koshi kills scum tonight I will be gunning for the last scum on the other team, not CR. In this post, we see the wild VA inform everyone that it's cool, the guy who claimed mafia is 100% trustworthy, and we shouldn't eliminate mafia KP.
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Funny because i remember many pushes in this game and none of them have come from Austin.
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Two posts up, that sentence should read "I've had pandain town now for a while"
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On October 08 2013 14:51 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:47 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.
We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with. what KP are we lowering exactly? he said he's just going to vest every night. If koshi kills scum tonight I will be gunning for the last scum on the other team, not CR. In this post, we see the wild VA inform everyone that it's cool, the guy who claimed mafia is 100% trustworthy, and we shouldn't eliminate mafia KP.
Yeah I'm not really sure what that's about.
So wait why VA over Pandain?
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On October 08 2013 14:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Funny because i remember many pushes in this game and none of them have come from Austin.
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On October 08 2013 14:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Funny because i remember many pushes in this game and none of them have come from Austin.
I'm pretty sure you are wrong about that.
Too lazy to go check atm but yeah.
As for CC scum, yeah I guess it's possible. Certainly would fit with my 'Wave is wrong about everything' theme I've got going on. I'd put him at the bottom of my list though atm.
Huh.
Funnily enough it seems as though we have the opposite reads again (in that my top 2 are you/Pandain)....maybe I really should just sheep you for the rest of the game.
Austin if you're town you hereby get my vote for MVP. Koshi close second only because his posting.
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WoS without relying on hypothetical OMGUS why do you think my play can be characterized as scum instead of town
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What exactly has Austin pushed?
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