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On October 08 2013 14:15 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:10 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 08 2013 14:08 Pandain wrote:The biggest thing is that CR being scum somehow proves that I'm scum? What? Vayne you said before On October 06 2013 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
except nobody is saying that pandain is a motor city banger so nobody cares about that So how does CR prove anything about me? WoS were you assuming I was the MCB? Because I have always thought the 3 man team was s0lstice/you/austin? It was oats I was wrong about. I literally haven't changed this team in a while. Vayne you have been coasting along with the thread the whole time. Originally you tried to get Grack lynched but never pushed it never supported it. Now the momentum is on me and I'm on suspicion but still you have no actual reasons to suspect me. You have meta which is wrong because you assume I have the same time commitments and you're also wrong I have ever tunneled. Most I tunneled was on you and that's because I was sure you are scum.
So what's your game after I flip town? walk me through that
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On October 08 2013 14:10 Pandain wrote:
Let me push you guys now, answer my analysis WoS.
Why did you vote Vayne but not push him. It was a useless vote at a critical time. That reeks of bussing without commitment.
Who do you think my partner is
Why do you think I'm scum because I still haven't heard anything.
You've been delaying these answers for several answers and people in thread are waiting.
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On October 08 2013 14:16 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:15 Pandain wrote:On October 08 2013 14:10 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 08 2013 14:08 Pandain wrote:The biggest thing is that CR being scum somehow proves that I'm scum? What? Vayne you said before On October 06 2013 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
except nobody is saying that pandain is a motor city banger so nobody cares about that So how does CR prove anything about me? WoS were you assuming I was the MCB? Because I have always thought the 3 man team was s0lstice/you/austin? It was oats I was wrong about. I literally haven't changed this team in a while. Vayne you have been coasting along with the thread the whole time. Originally you tried to get Grack lynched but never pushed it never supported it. Now the momentum is on me and I'm on suspicion but still you have no actual reasons to suspect me. You have meta which is wrong because you assume I have the same time commitments and you're also wrong I have ever tunneled. Most I tunneled was on you and that's because I was sure you are scum. So what's your game after I flip town? walk me through that
If you flip town I cry to myself
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On October 08 2013 14:10 Pandain wrote:
Let me push you guys now, answer my analysis WoS.
Why did you vote Vayne but not push him. It was a useless vote at a critical time. That reeks of bussing without commitment.
Who do you think my partner is
Why do you think I'm scum because I still haven't heard anything.
Your partner is either VA or Austin.
I voted Vayne originally because policy, and eventually he looked scummy as all hell to me. As the game progressed I realized I wasn't going to be able to push it because he looked great to everyone else. Then you started and I got pissed because you ignored everything I had said about him earlier, and there were scummier targets to push in my mind, like FT.
WHy are you scum?
I just KNOW.
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Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly.
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On October 08 2013 14:17 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:10 Pandain wrote:
Let me push you guys now, answer my analysis WoS.
Why did you vote Vayne but not push him. It was a useless vote at a critical time. That reeks of bussing without commitment.
Who do you think my partner is
Why do you think I'm scum because I still haven't heard anything.
You've been delaying these answers for several answers and people in thread are waiting.
Lol people.
You mean you?
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I assume everyone is interested in information.
Please answer the questions
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Pandain gonna be desperate not to lose this game. It's gonna ruin his streak.
WE MUST BE RELENTLESS
WE WILL BLOT OUT THE SUN WITH OUR POSTING
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On October 08 2013 14:19 Pandain wrote:
I assume everyone is interested in information.
Please answer the questions
I did
herp
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ok so he's gonna cry after I flip town that really tells me a lot. Tell me how being town affects your reads on austin/cheesecake/WoS
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No, you didn't answer my question.
When it became evident FT was to become modkilled, votes could either go onto Palmar or Vayne. You voted Vayne.
However you did not support that vote or argue for others to vote for Vayne. In essence you had a useless vote and useless voice on someone you were heavily sure was scum.
Explain that please.
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If you're town Vayne then I will never understand how you play.
WoS is still super suspicious even without a Vayne(scum) connection, it just cements it to me.
If you do happen to be town then the last I guess has to be Austin as CC wouldn't kill his own teammate.
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On October 08 2013 14:22 Pandain wrote:
No, you didn't answer my question.
When it became evident FT was to become modkilled, votes could either go onto Palmar or Vayne. You voted Vayne.
However you did not support that vote or argue for others to vote for Vayne. In essence you had a useless vote and useless voice on someone you were heavily sure was scum.
Explain that please.
Nothing to explain.
I didn't know if Palmar was scum, and at the time I still believed Vayne to be. I supported my own choice and with 10 min to go I wasn't going to try and force shenanigans.
Anything else?
I don't understand why you expect some grandiose explanation for everything I do.
There isn't one. What you see is what you get buddddeh
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On October 08 2013 14:22 Pandain wrote:
No, you didn't answer my question.
When it became evident FT was to become modkilled, votes could either go onto Palmar or Vayne. You voted Vayne.
However you did not support that vote or argue for others to vote for Vayne. In essence you had a useless vote and useless voice on someone you were heavily sure was scum.
Explain that please.
So did you.
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On October 08 2013 14:23 Pandain wrote:
If you're town Vayne then I will never understand how you play.
WoS is still super suspicious even without a Vayne(scum) connection, it just cements it to me.
If you do happen to be town then the last I guess has to be Austin as CC wouldn't kill his own teammate.
Why not when everybody has written him off as town? It actually makes a bit more sense that cheesecake could be scum since s0lstice is on the big team.
Does austin/WoS seem like a likely scumteam to you?
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On October 08 2013 14:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:22 Pandain wrote:
No, you didn't answer my question.
When it became evident FT was to become modkilled, votes could either go onto Palmar or Vayne. You voted Vayne.
However you did not support that vote or argue for others to vote for Vayne. In essence you had a useless vote and useless voice on someone you were heavily sure was scum.
Explain that please.
So did you.
Unfortunately I was afk until the lynch happened.
However, I was the driving force behind him even being considered for the lynch.
So here we have a WoS vote on someone he was sure was scum versus someone he didn't know was scum. Rather then be normal town WoS he decides to herp derp the last 10 minutes of lynch and just hope people vote Vayne? Without supporting or arguing for it?
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So Vayne, do you, WoS or anyone who played in Golden Sun and in Noire remember the difference in how town!Pandain pushes lynches compared to scum!Pandain?
Because i remember him not pushing any lynch in Noire, only arguing against lynches and having his vote on "right places". In Golden Sun i remember HAVING to HAVE TO LYNCH MY 99% townread because some stubborn people would not believe others..
Hmm, which does this game look like?
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On October 08 2013 14:25 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:23 Pandain wrote:
If you're town Vayne then I will never understand how you play.
WoS is still super suspicious even without a Vayne(scum) connection, it just cements it to me.
If you do happen to be town then the last I guess has to be Austin as CC wouldn't kill his own teammate. Why not when everybody has written him off as town? It actually makes a bit more sense that cheesecake could be scum since s0lstice is on the big team. Does austin/WoS seem like a likely scumteam to you?
Neither of them makes sense which is why I like you and WoS.
CC *could* be scum, but from his posts I didn't really get that much of a scummy feeling.
Austin I have a town feel because of the strength of his posts. However that isn't an end all be all tell, there are super-active scums. Arguably he tried to save S0lstice or at least divert the lynch.
An Austin/WoS is more likely.
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On October 08 2013 14:27 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 14:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 14:22 Pandain wrote:
No, you didn't answer my question.
When it became evident FT was to become modkilled, votes could either go onto Palmar or Vayne. You voted Vayne.
However you did not support that vote or argue for others to vote for Vayne. In essence you had a useless vote and useless voice on someone you were heavily sure was scum.
Explain that please.
So did you. Unfortunately I was afk until the lynch happened. However, I was the driving force behind him even being considered for the lynch. So here we have a WoS vote on someone he was sure was scum versus someone he didn't know was scum. Rather then be normal town WoS he decides to herp derp the last 10 minutes of lynch and just hope people vote Vayne? Without supporting or arguing for it?
When did I say I hoped people would vote for Vayne?
I simply wanted to be on the lynch I was more sure of at the time.
Palmar was getting lynched no matter what I did at that point, so I don't understand how sheeping a vote onto someone I said I couldn't read makes me less scummy. I've already explained I don't like sheeping.
WOuld you like me to explain this again? I'm pretty sure I've said all this stuff about 3-4 times before if you look through my filter.
Shall I find the posts for you?
Want to ask me again in the hopes something changes or you can convince someone this time?
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On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly. I don't think you're reading it right.
Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever.
The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1.
VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now.
Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town.
Dunno where you currently are on me.
But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain.
If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through.
You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen)
Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one.
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