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On October 07 2013 05:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:21 austinmcc wrote:On October 07 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 07 2013 05:18 austinmcc wrote:On October 07 2013 05:14 VisceraEyes wrote: If we lynch outside of the cops we're looking at
6-1-3 or 7-0-3 or 7-1-2
We can't even begin to speculate on the night actions because A) we don't know if s0lstice or Koshi is lying STILL, so we don't know what cop actions are available and B) We still don't know what scum KP is available. So we're still looking for 3 KP tomorrow morning which would leave us:
3-1-3 or 4-0-3 or 4-1-2
Regardless of who is killed, it's safe to say that Koshi and s0L will still be alive tomorrow imo. I don't like these odds. Right. They're alive tomorrow, almost certainly. But we can kill not-them scum today, get a night that's PRETTY SOLID FOR TOWN, like either cop has pro-town stuff and we don't risk lynching the wrong one, and a flip today and flips tomorrow MAY tell us more about the situation. Once again, you're assuming we hit scum tonight outside of the cops, which is a LOWER CHANCE THAN 50%. Especially if we can't assume anymore that the confirmed people are truly confirmed (aside from VE). It's not lower than 50. If it's lower than 50 we're all awful and don't deserve to win anyway. Don't give me that. If you don't have a > 50% scumread on D4 outside of those 2..... Sorry Austin, it doesn't work that way. Just because you're 'sure' someone is scum doesn't actually make them so until they flip. My experience this game only proves that further. I don't care how right you've been or how right you feel you still are. You are not the entirety of the rest of town. The chances are lower than 50%. It doesn't make them so until they flip.
But you're telling me it's D4 and you have no > 50% mafia reads?
(50% is a little misleading, cuz it's not exactly even, but i hate BOTH cop lynches right now, because BOTH of them have played wonkily IMO and I don't have one that I really trust right atm.).
Like....WHERE IS THIS WoS?On September 29 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Seriously though let's be fair here. Ego boost since last few games aside, I wouldn't call myself Ace or anything. I don't consider myself awful anymore but I think I'm decent. LXI, in which we both played Palmar, was a horrible game for me and was still pretty early in my mafia career. I don't think I've had a game that bad since (maybe one where I smurfed). You can check my profile for my games if you'd like to see my performance in any of them. The one who thinks he's decent. The one who thinks he can hunt mafia. (Also, for dramatic purposes, I need you to consider that Koshi/solstice is really weird and we don't know which is mafia).
WHERE IS FAKE ACE?
WHERE IS THIS VE?
On October 05 2013 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote: GG Palmar. I would have nailed you tomorrow.
Austin, good shit. Thanks for having the nuts I couldn't find in my sack. YOU ARE STILL WELCOME AND I STILL HAVE TWO SITTING SNUG WITHIN MY OWN SACK.
AND THEY SAY TO LYNCH OUTSIDE THE COPS. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AWFUL AND WE CAN FIND MAFIA. SCREW THIS WHOLE KOSHI/SOLSTICE BUSINESS FOR NOW, FORCE THEM TO DEAL WITH IT PARTWAY TONIGHT, FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN.
Is there really nobody you are MORE confident in than a cop claimer?
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On October 07 2013 05:30 s0Lstice wrote: Like, VE, you have a problem with me acting how I did as cop. Being a cop is fucking difficult. The only other time I've been 'blue' is in PTP where everyone was at least a little blue, and I basically got lynched day 1 there. It's just not a skill I have (right now anyway). I'll remind you too that I have NEVER been lynched. The two times where I've been even really close is here and PTP, both of which are related to blueness. This isn't a coincidence. At least do me a favor and go read my lone scum game that I have on my record and compare. It's Basterd Mini Mafia. Then:
WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND YOUR READS ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN CATCH THE WHOLE SCUMTEAM?!?!
SOLSICE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE - YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING THIS WAY AS A RESULT OF BEING NEWB BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOING NEXT-LEVEL MINDGAMES WITH THE ENTIRE OPPOSING FORCE!!! DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THIS IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION?!
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On October 07 2013 05:31 VayneAuthority wrote: this has nothing to do with your scum play though. We are talking about your town play here which you apparently have plenty of experience with...scum slip?
how does this have nothing to do with my scum play if the entire thread thinks I'm scum? There is a basis for comparison and I want people to look. It is possible to distinguish blue from red.
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Austin even if I end up agreeing with you, we're not going to secure the votes required because ONE OF THE COP CLAIMS IS 100% SCUM.
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On October 07 2013 05:32 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:30 s0Lstice wrote: Like, VE, you have a problem with me acting how I did as cop. Being a cop is fucking difficult. The only other time I've been 'blue' is in PTP where everyone was at least a little blue, and I basically got lynched day 1 there. It's just not a skill I have (right now anyway). I'll remind you too that I have NEVER been lynched. The two times where I've been even really close is here and PTP, both of which are related to blueness. This isn't a coincidence. At least do me a favor and go read my lone scum game that I have on my record and compare. It's Basterd Mini Mafia. Then: WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND YOUR READS ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN CATCH THE WHOLE SCUMTEAM?!?! SOLSICE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE - YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING THIS WAY AS A RESULT OF BEING NEWB BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOING NEXT-LEVEL MINDGAMES WITH THE ENTIRE OPPOSING FORCE!!! DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THIS IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION?!
VE, being a nervous and unsure blue does not affect the convictions I have in my own reads. I was convinced CC was scum. This fact remains the same whether I'm green or blue. The distinction is what I do with the blue actions and the blue role in general. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. They run parallel not opposite.
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On October 07 2013 05:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I don't know what good it's going to do - half of the town thinks I'm irrational and incompetent, and won't listen to me. But whatever - if you can convince me that you're the cop then I won't vote to lynch you. I hope you're rational. I think you're competent.
You're also in a shitty spot because right now, in the Venn diagram of "confirmed townies," you happen to be the only person square in the middle.
It's not that you're irrational or incompetent, it's that this is a very divisive game right now. Both sides make sense and don't make sense.
However, there are options beyond lynch koshi and lynch solstice. And I truly, truly believe that it's a better option. And leaving both cops up HURTS scum tonight. HELPS town.
Does it help as much as lynching the scum claimer? No. Absolutely not.
But I'm more sure that we can lynch mafia outside the cops than in. And I think you should be too. (Also you WoS).
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I have this feeling: Austin/Pandain/Solstice/Mr.CC.
There we have our 4 scum.Just need to get rid of them.
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On October 07 2013 05:35 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 07 2013 05:30 s0Lstice wrote: Like, VE, you have a problem with me acting how I did as cop. Being a cop is fucking difficult. The only other time I've been 'blue' is in PTP where everyone was at least a little blue, and I basically got lynched day 1 there. It's just not a skill I have (right now anyway). I'll remind you too that I have NEVER been lynched. The two times where I've been even really close is here and PTP, both of which are related to blueness. This isn't a coincidence. At least do me a favor and go read my lone scum game that I have on my record and compare. It's Basterd Mini Mafia. Then: WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND YOUR READS ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN CATCH THE WHOLE SCUMTEAM?!?! SOLSICE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE - YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING THIS WAY AS A RESULT OF BEING NEWB BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOING NEXT-LEVEL MINDGAMES WITH THE ENTIRE OPPOSING FORCE!!! DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THIS IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION?! VE, being a nervous and unsure blue does not affect the convictions I have in my own reads. I was convinced CC was scum. This fact remains the same whether I'm green or blue. The distinction is what I do with the blue actions and the blue role in general. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. They run parallel not opposite. So because CC didn't claim scum to you he must be town? Right.
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On October 07 2013 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have this feeling: Austin/Pandain/Solstice/Mr.CC.
There we have our 4 scum.Just need to get rid of them. You are a boss rayn. Total boss. and Pandain is last banger.
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On October 07 2013 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: If we are lynching outside the cops we lynch Austin. That's so bad. Why? Don't be lazy. Why do you think it's bad?
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On October 07 2013 05:35 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 07 2013 05:30 s0Lstice wrote: Like, VE, you have a problem with me acting how I did as cop. Being a cop is fucking difficult. The only other time I've been 'blue' is in PTP where everyone was at least a little blue, and I basically got lynched day 1 there. It's just not a skill I have (right now anyway). I'll remind you too that I have NEVER been lynched. The two times where I've been even really close is here and PTP, both of which are related to blueness. This isn't a coincidence. At least do me a favor and go read my lone scum game that I have on my record and compare. It's Basterd Mini Mafia. Then: WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND YOUR READS ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN CATCH THE WHOLE SCUMTEAM?!?! SOLSICE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE - YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING THIS WAY AS A RESULT OF BEING NEWB BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOING NEXT-LEVEL MINDGAMES WITH THE ENTIRE OPPOSING FORCE!!! DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THIS IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION?! VE, being a nervous and unsure blue does not affect the convictions I have in my own reads. I was convinced CC was scum. This fact remains the same whether I'm green or blue. The distinction is what I do with the blue actions and the blue role in general. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. They run parallel not opposite.
More on this...it's about people having a problem with what the optimal play was for a cop to do in any of the situations we discussed. My inexperience with blue roles played into me using them in ways that seem odd or stupid to other people, but at the foundation of that is the notion that they were used in such a way as to back up my own reads and convictions...which I would have regardless of being green or blue.
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On October 07 2013 05:03 Pandain wrote: Also food for thought when was S0lstice EVER hoping to claim cop? Day 5?
Would make more sense to just shoot koshi
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On October 07 2013 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:35 s0Lstice wrote:On October 07 2013 05:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 07 2013 05:30 s0Lstice wrote: Like, VE, you have a problem with me acting how I did as cop. Being a cop is fucking difficult. The only other time I've been 'blue' is in PTP where everyone was at least a little blue, and I basically got lynched day 1 there. It's just not a skill I have (right now anyway). I'll remind you too that I have NEVER been lynched. The two times where I've been even really close is here and PTP, both of which are related to blueness. This isn't a coincidence. At least do me a favor and go read my lone scum game that I have on my record and compare. It's Basterd Mini Mafia. Then: WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND YOUR READS ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN CATCH THE WHOLE SCUMTEAM?!?! SOLSICE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE - YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING THIS WAY AS A RESULT OF BEING NEWB BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOING NEXT-LEVEL MINDGAMES WITH THE ENTIRE OPPOSING FORCE!!! DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THIS IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION?! VE, being a nervous and unsure blue does not affect the convictions I have in my own reads. I was convinced CC was scum. This fact remains the same whether I'm green or blue. The distinction is what I do with the blue actions and the blue role in general. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. They run parallel not opposite. So because CC didn't claim scum to you he must be town? Right.
Show me where I say CC is town. If you are going to participate in this discussion, you should at least read the thread.
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So here is the first 102 posts in cop QT paraphrased. cuz I love you all: Cop QT.+ Show Spoiler + each line is a post. but I know realize if it is too long it will be 2 lines, bad luck..
Sentinel posts teammates Hiro makes small joke about being loose cannon cop. Asks how we will procede I laugh with joke, I tell him I have no clue on how to approach I ask about what abilities we have. Sentinel forgot to post them. Sentinel posts our abilities. I ask if both of us can do 1 each night. I tell Hiro I will PS n1 most likely. I ask him about his history. Hiro says his last games were over a year ago. "PYP:Redux, hosted by Gmash, and Mafia L. in which he was a cop. He says he played well in those 2 games but was pretty bad in mafia before that. Sentinel confirms we can use 1 ability a night. Sentinel says each* one a night I say we can easily scumhunt with our actions and that we need to somehow prove our towniness so people trust our calls. I ask where he lives Hiro says Vancouver BC and asks where I live I say Belgium. I say that our timezones are pretty far apart so that is good. I ask him how we dont die. he says he was thinking about that as well. He says with our skills if we stay alive till day 3 we win the game. (RIP buddy) I say that most likely scum will want to shoot other scum or cops on N1 if they don't drive by. So we should be town that is on the wrong track. he agrees that obv town with bad reads is best play. priority one is staying alive. His reads are VE town, yamato leaning town, Palmar null, VA suspicious. I say scum might be blinded by goodies and not shoot n1 Hiro says he is off to work. Asks me to leave reads in QT if I have them. I say cool idea. I tell him PS is superimba. Hiro is suspicious of WoS. Posting about bad town isnt pro town. WoS has apathetic energy and its a great font for not posting anything substantial. WoS is null now for Hiro. Oats on his radar. VA likely town. But he is going to push him so scum doesn't shoot him. Hiro says we are having a good start. I say RNG stuff is unfortunate but beatable. I go play soccer. Sentinel says if the Roleblock happens you don't get prius back. Hiro says rng is so unlucky. but is confident Palmar (he always says Palmer but w.e), BH or VE aren't willing to let it go through. he says he will be back later. I say this is sad. I say I can't believe this happened. I am depressed. Hiro says to never give up. And he says this is bullshit. He is concerned that me and him will look as a scumteam if he defends me too hard. He says he is figuring out what to do. message deleted by author. he wishes somebody else would posts so our posts aren't back to back. he doubts that his chainsaw defence is the best idea but fuck it. I say our roles are so powerful. Losing 1 is total shit. I say I can always claim and then cpr and buss to save me 2 nights. I ask hosts hosts if scum can use the items they buy in the same night. phagga answers yes Hiro says I shouldn't claim. It isn't optimal play. but yeah at least I get shot off. I say I will use shot on Grack so I can stop silly tunnel. I would prefer WoS or BH but they might vest I say I could also shoot Palmar Hiro is reliefed, he is catching up on thread and is pondering about night actions I ask for his input. hiro will be gone for a few hours. He will make a list of his targets. I say I will be around for a while for a chat. Hiro is leaning to use his shot on SP, VE or possibly VA. Hiro goes to bed. He says I should target a null target that is active. VE is good. Hiro might want to use lethal force on FT, SP Mr.C or VA I say FT is best choice for Lethal shot. Prius is better on the 3 targets he suggested. I say I don't want to use PS on WoS or BH vecause they might vest. Even thought WoS said he wouldn't vest. I say that Day 3 somebody of us shold come out with all information and we should bus this guy N3. I say it is still a long time till then. I say some dumb shit about prius. Seems like I didn't know it got refunded. I say even more dumb shit... Hiro says he is awake. Hiro says that scum will not use drive by if atmosphere is poor. But if they shoot they will go for cops or good scumhunters. Hiro asks if prius blocks drive by. I ask for ideas. I say I will use PS on Grack most likely. Hiro says he was thingink the same and is laughing about it. Deleted comment I say I will shoot Grack. I say that prius might be better for night 2 because scum will drive by now. hiro says something about prius and vest. I say prius only works vs scum and they wont vest. I say prius is cool to use. Hiro says if prius is on townie he gets it back. I say we could have 2 confirmed townies or shot scum / confirmed scum. I say that great minds think alike and that I am playing dota. Hiro is doing math. Hiro goes with his guy and Prius VE. He thinks he is scum based on his apathtic play yesterday. It was a while since hiro and VE played but Hiro doesn't think VE would react like he did on the rng thingie. Hiro says SP would be better target than Grack. Hiro asks if I sent all actions to all hosts. I say no worries I say only mine though. Hiro says he did for his I say I had no asnwer Hiro asks if he got his prius back I wonder if hosts forgot about us Hiro says Grack is probs town. Hiro says he got his prius back I say I still got no word from hosts Hiro says he asked sent I wonder if we should have protected BH. But I say nhaa, Bh should have vested. That silly goose. I am happy about the fact we got 2 confirmed town I say it won't be easy to get lynch off grack. I ask if we should go FT. Hiro says BH didn't use vest most likely Hiro says I should push FT and he will push SP. I agree Hiro has to do some errants and will be really active when he is back. I say we did well with many words. I go to bed Hiro says things are good. Cakepie puts the Night actions in our QT cuz TL PMs were being bad. I speculate if SP or FT is scum. Hiro doesn't think FT is scum and thinks SP is scum. But is waiting on responses. Hiro says he didn't look at FT yet and will do it. I say that we should make sure that people don't think we are scum together. Hiro laughs and agrees. He says we should get into a fight. He says I am his homie. I say that we shouldn't be in the picture. Drive by is going down tonight I say a lot of things. Mostly things to put a distance between me and hiro. I say thread didn't notice we were buddying a bit I am amused that VE called me a cop I apologize for being obvious.
First 102 posts paraphrased.
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On October 07 2013 05:38 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: If we are lynching outside the cops we lynch Austin. That's so bad. Why? Don't be lazy. Why do you think it's bad? BECAUSE WE LOSE KOSHI ON THE NEXT NIGHT 100%! That's removing confirmed townies for a fucking KP in a game where people have vests..
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On October 07 2013 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Austin even if I end up agreeing with you, we're not going to secure the votes required because ONE OF THE COP CLAIMS IS 100% SCUM. P'shaw. There are 24 hours left. MOST of the game actually IS townie. And this idea is PERFECTLY RATIONAL.
Heck, it changes the whole battlefield on scum. Koshi/solstice will STILL BE HERE. Instead of spending another 24 hours in Central Mindfucksville, this is proactive. Pushes the discussion elsewhere. Forces stances. Whether we kill scum or no today we still have more to go. Still need reads, more information, people playing the game. Here's a sticking point for scum and they have to take a stance, explain why this is a bad idea or why nobody but solstice or koshi could possibly be mafia let's not look elsewhere gaiz.
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Okay I'm heading out guys. Austin, homework. Assume that myself, Wave and you are all confirmed town. Come up with scumteams and a lynch target outside the cop claims.
Wave: you're on claim-duty. Pressure both claims, and get as much information out of BOTH of them as you can. This will help us out tomorrow IF we decide to leave them until tomorrow.
For myself, I'm going to be watching and thinking and considering and I'll post my thoughts on the situation with WELL enough time to swing the lynch if I think that's what we need to do.
And Shepherds we shall be For thee, my Lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.
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And we can't even be usre if we remove KP. WE CAN'T BE EVEN SURE IF WE LYNCH SCUM! At least your target is most likely town.
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On October 07 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 05:38 austinmcc wrote:On October 07 2013 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: If we are lynching outside the cops we lynch Austin. That's so bad. Why? Don't be lazy. Why do you think it's bad? BECAUSE WE LOSE KOSHI ON THE NEXT NIGHT 100%! That's removing confirmed townies for a fucking KP in a game where people have vests.. Why is losing Koshi bad?
If we lose Koshi, we 100% know solstice's alignment.
WHY IS HAVING THE WHOLE SITUATION RESOLVED A BAD THING?
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On October 07 2013 05:40 Koshi wrote:So here is the first 102 posts in cop QT paraphrased. cuz I love you all: Cop QT. + Show Spoiler + each line is a post. but I know realize if it is too long it will be 2 lines, bad luck..
Sentinel posts teammates Hiro makes small joke about being loose cannon cop. Asks how we will procede I laugh with joke, I tell him I have no clue on how to approach I ask about what abilities we have. Sentinel forgot to post them. Sentinel posts our abilities. I ask if both of us can do 1 each night. I tell Hiro I will PS n1 most likely. I ask him about his history. Hiro says his last games were over a year ago. "PYP:Redux, hosted by Gmash, and Mafia L. in which he was a cop. He says he played well in those 2 games but was pretty bad in mafia before that. Sentinel confirms we can use 1 ability a night. Sentinel says each* one a night I say we can easily scumhunt with our actions and that we need to somehow prove our towniness so people trust our calls. I ask where he lives Hiro says Vancouver BC and asks where I live I say Belgium. I say that our timezones are pretty far apart so that is good. I ask him how we dont die. he says he was thinking about that as well. He says with our skills if we stay alive till day 3 we win the game. (RIP buddy) I say that most likely scum will want to shoot other scum or cops on N1 if they don't drive by. So we should be town that is on the wrong track. he agrees that obv town with bad reads is best play. priority one is staying alive. His reads are VE town, yamato leaning town, Palmar null, VA suspicious. I say scum might be blinded by goodies and not shoot n1 Hiro says he is off to work. Asks me to leave reads in QT if I have them. I say cool idea. I tell him PS is superimba. Hiro is suspicious of WoS. Posting about bad town isnt pro town. WoS has apathetic energy and its a great font for not posting anything substantial. WoS is null now for Hiro. Oats on his radar. VA likely town. But he is going to push him so scum doesn't shoot him. Hiro says we are having a good start. I say RNG stuff is unfortunate but beatable. I go play soccer. Sentinel says if the Roleblock happens you don't get prius back. Hiro says rng is so unlucky. but is confident Palmar (he always says Palmer but w.e), BH or VE aren't willing to let it go through. he says he will be back later. I say this is sad. I say I can't believe this happened. I am depressed. Hiro says to never give up. And he says this is bullshit. He is concerned that me and him will look as a scumteam if he defends me too hard. He says he is figuring out what to do. message deleted by author. he wishes somebody else would posts so our posts aren't back to back. he doubts that his chainsaw defence is the best idea but fuck it. I say our roles are so powerful. Losing 1 is total shit. I say I can always claim and then cpr and buss to save me 2 nights. I ask hosts hosts if scum can use the items they buy in the same night. phagga answers yes Hiro says I shouldn't claim. It isn't optimal play. but yeah at least I get shot off. I say I will use shot on Grack so I can stop silly tunnel. I would prefer WoS or BH but they might vest I say I could also shoot Palmar Hiro is reliefed, he is catching up on thread and is pondering about night actions I ask for his input. hiro will be gone for a few hours. He will make a list of his targets. I say I will be around for a while for a chat. Hiro is leaning to use his shot on SP, VE or possibly VA. Hiro goes to bed. He says I should target a null target that is active. VE is good. Hiro might want to use lethal force on FT, SP Mr.C or VA I say FT is best choice for Lethal shot. Prius is better on the 3 targets he suggested. I say I don't want to use PS on WoS or BH vecause they might vest. Even thought WoS said he wouldn't vest. I say that Day 3 somebody of us shold come out with all information and we should bus this guy N3. I say it is still a long time till then. I say some dumb shit about prius. Seems like I didn't know it got refunded. I say even more dumb shit... Hiro says he is awake. Hiro says that scum will not use drive by if atmosphere is poor. But if they shoot they will go for cops or good scumhunters. Hiro asks if prius blocks drive by. I ask for ideas. I say I will use PS on Grack most likely. Hiro says he was thingink the same and is laughing about it. Deleted comment I say I will shoot Grack. I say that prius might be better for night 2 because scum will drive by now. hiro says something about prius and vest. I say prius only works vs scum and they wont vest. I say prius is cool to use. Hiro says if prius is on townie he gets it back. I say we could have 2 confirmed townies or shot scum / confirmed scum. I say that great minds think alike and that I am playing dota. Hiro is doing math. Hiro goes with his guy and Prius VE. He thinks he is scum based on his apathtic play yesterday. It was a while since hiro and VE played but Hiro doesn't think VE would react like he did on the rng thingie. Hiro says SP would be better target than Grack. Hiro asks if I sent all actions to all hosts. I say no worries I say only mine though. Hiro says he did for his I say I had no asnwer Hiro asks if he got his prius back I wonder if hosts forgot about us Hiro says Grack is probs town. Hiro says he got his prius back I say I still got no word from hosts Hiro says he asked sent I wonder if we should have protected BH. But I say nhaa, Bh should have vested. That silly goose. I am happy about the fact we got 2 confirmed town I say it won't be easy to get lynch off grack. I ask if we should go FT. Hiro says BH didn't use vest most likely Hiro says I should push FT and he will push SP. I agree Hiro has to do some errants and will be really active when he is back. I say we did well with many words. I go to bed Hiro says things are good. Cakepie puts the Night actions in our QT cuz TL PMs were being bad. I speculate if SP or FT is scum. Hiro doesn't think FT is scum and thinks SP is scum. But is waiting on responses. Hiro says he didn't look at FT yet and will do it. I say that we should make sure that people don't think we are scum together. Hiro laughs and agrees. He says we should get into a fight. He says I am his homie. I say that we shouldn't be in the picture. Drive by is going down tonight I say a lot of things. Mostly things to put a distance between me and hiro. I say thread didn't notice we were buddying a bit I am amused that VE called me a cop I apologize for being obvious.
First 102 posts paraphrased. This is why Koshi is cop
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