I think it's scummy FROM WAVE. I should amend that. Because I expect more from him, I find it suspect coming from Wave. That may be bad. I'm fine with that.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2013 14:59 GMT

#2864

But meh. I got him as town.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

October 04 2013 15:00 GMT

#2865

Well I guess that means we should just not talk about it huh Koshi?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

October 04 2013 15:03 GMT

#2866

That was sarcastic - I don't care if meh you got him as town because I found something suspicious - something you say you agree with. Which means I want further opinions. Not "meh I got him as town".

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 04 2013 15:05 GMT

#2867

On October 04 2013 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
No I don't believe that him disappearing says anything about his alignment. Just like I don't think that my disappearing for a while was alignment indicative. Just like you disappearing wasn't alignment indicative.

:/

What really irks me is Wave's insistence on FT tbh. Like, FT is NOTORIOUSLY bad with regard to activity iirc, and he's pretty often suspected as a result. But he's like, literally opting out of discussion today simply to get this lynch that is already happening. Doesn't that strike you as odd?

Narp.
Someone already brought up the examples but check out Nuclear Winter for an example of how FT normally plays.
If FT will be modkilled I will vote Vayne or Oats.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

October 04 2013 15:08 GMT

#2868

He's not here - he's not playing so I don't care how he normally plays. Examples are meaningless because there's nothing to compare them with. He's a complete mystery and his lynch tells us nothing in regard to the alignment of people on his wagon REGARDLESS of what he flips. It's such a dumb waste of a cycle, and you're completely opting out of talking about anyone else.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

October 04 2013 15:11 GMT

#2869

But whatever, I seem to be alone in thinking it's suspicious so I'll just deal with it.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

October 04 2013 15:11 GMT

#2870

Eh, I had a townread on Wave, I think it is back from day 1 because of his willingness to engage in the conversation. I haven't updated it. Maybe I was wrong, not sure I'm going to filter-dive him today figure out if I am.

Also, there's two scumteams, they might both be scum.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 04 2013 15:13 GMT

#2871

VE you can call me scum for it but I can honestly say I don't care.
I'm sick of letting people who should have died ages ago live because people were dumb around lynch time and got scum-influenced.

Look at Cephiro in Noire for example.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

October 04 2013 15:14 GMT

#2872

btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.

He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 04 2013 15:18 GMT

#2873

The fundamental problem is that you refuse to accept the possibility that FT isn't scum. There is no connection to him and SnB. He also isn't lurking, he's simply not posting. Yes scum can do that but it's less likely.

How often do townies actually mega lurk? Very rarely and rarely do they stop posting after saying they would post more because that's suspicious. Scum are actually rarely the lurkiest of the lurks.

That's why towns are losing lately we focus too much on post count and too little on what is said. I would rather lung S0lstice then FT for instance

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 04 2013 15:19 GMT

#2874

On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote:
btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.

He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.

What do you mean by planning a vote swing?
Should I not have said where I am likely to vote if FT gets modkilled? I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 04 2013 15:20 GMT

#2875

On October 05 2013 00:18 Pandain wrote:
The fundamental problem is that you refuse to accept the possibility that FT isn't scum. There is no connection to him and SnB. He also isn't lurking, he's simply not posting. Yes scum can do that but it's less likely.

How often do townies actually mega lurk? Very rarely and rarely do they stop posting after saying they would post more because that's suspicious. Scum are actually rarely the lurkiest of the lurks.

That's why towns are losing lately we focus too much on post count and too little on what is said. I would rather lung S0lstice then FT for instance

No. I wanted FT dead long before his post count was dead, dude.
A major reason towns lose is because they don't consider NK analysis with regards to dead players' reads.
And guess who I'm on?