On October 05 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except Pandain, there is a connection between him and SnB. SnB defended FT quite a bit in FT -- ShiaoPi lynch last day.
And scum only defend scumbuddies! They never defend townies.
On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.
He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.
Trying not to play the "toss everything Palmar says on the scummy pile" game, but this statement is just lazy/bad/anti-town.
I guarantee you FT doesn't have magical powers where his being alive prevents people from posting, from reading, from doing anything. If he survives another 18,000 nights, we'll all have the capacity to read and post.
On October 05 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except Pandain, there is a connection between him and SnB. SnB defended FT quite a bit in FT -- ShiaoPi lynch last day.
And scum only defend scumbuddies! They never defend townies.
On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.
He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.
Trying not to play the "toss everything Palmar says on the scummy pile" game, but this statement is just lazy/bad/anti-town.
I guarantee you FT doesn't have magical powers where his being alive prevents people from posting, from reading, from doing anything. If he survives another 18,000 nights, we'll all have the capacity to read and post.
I am not saying it's definitely so that FT is SnB's scumbuddy. I was pointing out the incorrect statement from Pandain that there is a possible conncetion.
On October 05 2013 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i am gonna vote for Palmar or FT today. And you all are dumb for not lynching Palmar so i probably end up voting for FT.
On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.
He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.
What do you mean by planning a vote swing? Should I not have said where I am likely to vote if FT gets modkilled? I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to.
I'm replying to Koshi here:
On October 04 2013 23:56 Koshi wrote: Yeah, we better prepare a major swing in votes if FT doesn't come back.
Will FT be modkilled if he doesn't vote
We don't know if FT will be modkilled until the deadline, we don't know if he'll come in and last-minute vote until then. So if we swing the votes say... 2 minutes before the deadline, he might come in and save himself from the modkill, forcing us to lynch him tomorrow instead.
On October 05 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except Pandain, there is a connection between him and SnB. SnB defended FT quite a bit in FT -- ShiaoPi lynch last day.
And scum only defend scumbuddies! They never defend townies.
On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.
He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.
Trying not to play the "toss everything Palmar says on the scummy pile" game, but this statement is just lazy/bad/anti-town.
I guarantee you FT doesn't have magical powers where his being alive prevents people from posting, from reading, from doing anything. If he survives another 18,000 nights, we'll all have the capacity to read and post.
Sure, but motivation goes down when you're just default-lynching. Discussion decreases too. I cba going back to other games where there is a default lynch (cop check, confirmed scum etc) to see if I'm actually right, but I have a strong feeling it does.
On October 05 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except Pandain, there is a connection between him and SnB. SnB defended FT quite a bit in FT -- ShiaoPi lynch last day.
And scum only defend scumbuddies! They never defend townies.
On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle.
He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game.
Trying not to play the "toss everything Palmar says on the scummy pile" game, but this statement is just lazy/bad/anti-town.
I guarantee you FT doesn't have magical powers where his being alive prevents people from posting, from reading, from doing anything. If he survives another 18,000 nights, we'll all have the capacity to read and post.
Sure, but motivation goes down when you're just default-lynching. Discussion decreases too. I cba going back to other games where there is a default lynch (cop check, confirmed scum etc) to see if I'm actually right, but I have a strong feeling it does.
That's due to player behavior, not the game itself. I'll MS Paint my ass off if it motivates anyone. Or maybe people can find it within themselves to go hunt the other scum, or to read the filters they haven't read (cough cough), or just to show up.
I agree that it's the usual case, but I think it's a lazy justification for doing nothing.
On August 04 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote: The problem with intelligent townies is that they need to be right, and you need to be wrong. Non-top town players aren't terrible, they're just less adept at coming up with solutions, that doesn't mean they're incapable of recognizing a correct solution when it's presented to them by a top town player. Which is why killing town heads is so important.
One amazing town player, can make 10 decent townies good. Almost everyone in this game is at least decent or good, so all it takes is someone to lead them, then they WILL recognize what is correct and what is not, and steamroll the mafia.
The emphasis here is that decent townies recognise good solutions when they're presented to them. Unfortunately way too many townies atm don't take the time to assess and appreciate the correct answers given to them by strong townies (or just townies who are correct and making good arguments), and instead go off and do their own (incorrect) thing.
The bolded section is something marv wrote.
Do you think this may be relevant to the current situation at all?
On October 05 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except Pandain, there is a connection between him and SnB. SnB defended FT quite a bit in FT -- ShiaoPi lynch last day.
No he didn't stop spreading this lie tell me where he said FT is town
On October 05 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: Austin, who's the other soft-claimed coop?
I have one in particular in mind. One of the dudes on the player list.
So should we in your opinion discuss them -- Koshi? In case you are right one of them has to be mafia right?
I don't think so, at least not yet.
People can be doing it for fun. People can be doing it to try and support their reads, make it look like they might come from cops. People can be doing it as townies to draw shots.
Rather we just not overly worry about the cop for now and hope the cop isn't me and maybe claims at some decent time to be able to give information to thread and not die with it. Don't think that's a now thing though, and I don't think we have to hunt.
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