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Oatsmaster
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Oatsmaster
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On September 30 2013 16:52 Oatsmaster wrote: NOOOOOOOOOO O OO O O SHIAO PI IS TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! k hiro is scum, FT might be different scumteam. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On October 02 2013 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey FT I don't think we've interacted at all this game so far. Is there any particular reason you don't want to even try to prove yourself towny in my eyes? Yes, actually. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. It would also derail the thread into discussing people who are not scum. I'd rather keep discussion productive and focus on my scum reads. You can push me all you want, but defending myself is less likely to change your mind than me scumhunting. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On October 02 2013 03:29 austinmcc wrote: Hiro, could you share some thoughts on people who aren't FT and ShiaoPi? Maybe take a look at rayn/palmar arguing, a peek at CR, and whatchoo thinkin' bout solstice? The ryan/palmer thing is intriguing. I know Palmer as scum likes to argue with his scum buddys. That being said, The interaction seems real, or, I think it would be hard to fake a conversation like that as teammates. both are really calling each other out on there play, something 2 scumbuddys would not be likely to do. speaking of ryan, Im curious, why did you change your vote at the very end of the day? why did you yell at palmer after that? I think I all ready gave my thoughts on CR, but palmer wanted me to go into more detail so here it goes: Looking over his filter He gives out Alot of opinons, without being asked to, and goes over his thought process while doing it. These post: + Show Spoiler + On September 30 2013 08:00 Chairman Ray wrote: I am pretty caught up with the thread. The reason I switched from Koshi to Yamato was because at the time, Koshi was leading by a large margin. I swapped my vote so make the votes a lot closer. This would give others the opportunity to swap or people who voted a useless vote to all make a difference. I feel that later on if we figure out that Koshi is scum, then I will focus on looking at the people who swapped after me, and try to get reads on them. On September 30 2013 08:15 Chairman Ray wrote: Yeah, I suppose it does make me look kinda scummy, which is something I really need to work on in my play. At the time, I wasn't under fire, so I figured my efforts would be best put trying to get a better read on others. Mafia have it bit easier in that they only have to focus on blending in. I find playing town a lot harder since I have to strike some balance between finding scum, and not making myself look scummy in the process. On September 30 2013 08:27 Chairman Ray wrote: The first time I played as town, most of my posts and votes were basically constructed methods to elicit reactions from people and I would try to read into these reactions and compare them to how they interact with others. Hopefully, this will enable me to find some inconsistencies to give me a better idea of scum teams. The result was that I got lynched on day 1. The last game I also got mislynched on d1. After feedback from coaches, I figured that I also needed to be a lot more transparent and vocal so that I can help town by not letting them mislynch me. Currently that's what I'm trying to improve upon. Anyways, I am open to any tips while the game is going on, but I don't want it to detract too much from the discussion at hand. are very genuine. Hes explaining why hes doing certain actions. He even talks about how coachs told him to be more transparent, which is exactly what hes doing. Now none of what Ive just said about him makes him town per se, these are things that scum could do to. however, when you combine that with the fact that hes been giving reads, and contributing, (hes givin reads on alot of people givin how small his filter is) in the way hes doing it now, I think its townish. its a lean town, and I would like to here more from him, Like what he thinks of Oats, and SaB. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
yes I was wishy washy on FT. I, like you, hated how he posted "i give up" when SP flipped. Fact is if he doesn't start posting the way he did at the end of day 2, Im gonna want to lynch him. I didnt have a scum read on you, you where leaning scum in my book. It wasnt a strong feeling, but I didnt like how when you came into the game with a "towns so bad" combined with your going along with RNG. It looked like you where trying not to contribute at the time. you have contributed alot more sense then, so I feel like you are likly town now. flip flopy, yes, but reads change. The reason I put up my reads list is because I was catching up on the thread. after catch up some of my reads changed. Ill go into more detail come morning. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
And use your fucking vest please! theres a drive by coming out tonight. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
CR you need to stop joining games if you are this inactive tbh. Please give me your reads + 1-2 lines of reasoning off all players. | ||
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Koshi
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Koshi
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Koshi
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Anybody here? I am bored. | ||
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Koshi
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
A few quick thoughts. I'm less sure in my early townreads and more sure in my later ones. Especially I think Koshi, Chairman Ray and Grack are very unlikely scum. VE, Oats, Pandain, WoS more likely than before (but still nowhere near lynch territory, let's say I'm leaning town on them. A quick note on WoS, for someone that was willing to enter an argument early in the game about his proficiency at mafia I don't feel like he is having the influence his own perception of his skill should warrant. If you think you're so good why aren't you trying to lead us? I have still to read CC and the replacements through. I'm assuming at least one if not two scum in there because that's kind of what I do, I always ignore the lay-low scum. SnB still hasn't done jack shit, good candidate for lynching tomorrow. I still think Hiro's entrance into the thread was really awkward and he's not doing much at all, another good lynch. Rayn is a bit of a question mark, he's super reckless (to the point of being willing to die just to make a point, I don't know if he anticipated no one going along with it, or if he just doesn't care). He's doing stupid things, not taking an active stance about anything for the most part except me. I don't really know if all this makes him ballsy scum or reckless town, in both cases he's being very useless. Vayne is another question mark. He's being an asshole about being awful at the game. I have no idea why. He also indicated he's been playing this a long time, which is important because he would probably be pretty towny if he was new to mafia. FT remains a good lynch. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Vayne can also play really well as scum, I dont think he got really put under a lot of suspicion until the end of Golden Sun. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On October 02 2013 23:01 Koshi wrote: I love your reads Palmar. You are town. Also a good player. I would consider using your vest. I might use it tonight. We'll see. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On October 02 2013 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn could totally play ballsy town but Im not sure he would push you in that way. Vayne can also play really well as scum, I dont think he got really put under a lot of suspicion until the end of Golden Sun. Cuz he killed me D: | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On October 02 2013 23:03 Palmar wrote: Someone mentioned cops shooting FT tonight and asking FT not to use his vest. I think that would be a pretty solid plan. Smart plan. FT if you read this. Can you confirm not using vest? + Show Spoiler + I am not a cop but doing their work. kk? | ||
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