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On October 02 2013 10:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Martyring hasn't been a scumtell since...I dunno.
Can't even think of the last game where a scum martyred Maybe Bluelightz---I think DrH did.
Other than that, always townies. Terrible terrible townies.
Malongo, titanic
Firmtofu, persona
off the top of my head. probably more but im not actually going to look. town or scum we don't need people that would rather give excuses then play.
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On October 02 2013 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:06 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 10:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter. But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you. Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something. could you elaborate on how having 3 clear scum reads seems like waffling to you? I think if you have 3 clear scum reads, that is sexy and good. However, THIS post is NOT 3 clear scum reads: On September 30 2013 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.
Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.
No need to reply to this post, I won't read it And this is the post that I keep coming back to and having trouble with. I'm specifically talking about that single post, and you don't present those people as clear scumreads there, imo. (Side note: When I want to find that post, I open your full filter and do a search for the word boner, because I know it appears in that post and no others.....) If you're using "these people interacted with BH" as part of thinking all three of those people are scum, then I also find that wonky, as it's unlikely they all got together and shot BH. No that really is only a minor point in my full read on them. It's complicated and rest assured I read over all filters and searched for a few keywords here and there (not boner). If you progress past that post you can see how that post turns into concrete scum reads on the 3 of them.
lol you said I was scum because you don't like my posts.
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On October 02 2013 10:12 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Martyring hasn't been a scumtell since...I dunno.
Can't even think of the last game where a scum martyred Maybe Bluelightz---I think DrH did.
Other than that, always townies. Terrible terrible townies. Malongo, titanic Firmtofu, persona off the top of my head. probably more but im not actually going to look. town or scum we don't need people that would rather give excuses then play.
Personally if we're going to talk policy lynch then you know where I'd go with it.
ShiaoPi is infinitely easier to play with/against than you are.
Dropping this line of conversation here.
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Oh what lynch already happened alright I'll leave this thread lol
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On October 02 2013 10:09 s0Lstice wrote:
austin, I'll discuss s0lstice with you
just to be clear...I am scum because I haven't been chomping at the bit to get all caught up and not be useless like you were correct? 'S a piece of it, yes.
I've disagreed with some of the reads you presented, but that's not a wonderful foundation.
Look all the way back to:On October 02 2013 00:07 austinmcc wrote:You guys should stop, imo. Neither of you seems to be getting anywhere. Instead, I propose we chat about some of the following: - solstice
- Pandain's trolly "I'm mafia too, Palmar!" posts
- Kittens in air balloons
Specifically: - Where dat dude is? What are his current thoughts on FT, he left off with "nothing struck me as odd" and looking into it. This was an oddly difficult thread to read through and catch up on, so I can understand his somewhat difficulty in getting up to speed, but...I respect solstice as a player and I know I was sitting around yesterday mad at myself because I was trying to catch up, hadn't, and needed to be active and posting. Solstice isn't really exhibiting that.
The posts you ARE making, the reads you are presenting, just don't match up with my thoughts on your normal play. Aside from the whole guilt thing.
On October 01 2013 00:58 s0Lstice wrote:
right well I'm here, taking me awhile to catch up. I'm about to say fuck it and just start playing from here on (with a helpful summary for pages 40-now from someone) but we'll see how much time I get tonight. I didn't want to say much without having a complete picture of the goings on but if that means I never start talking then it's no good.
from what I've read I don't like hiro, or Oats. Cheesecakes weird pressure vote on Oats bothered me as well.
hiro for his entrance into the thread and early passivity (agree with Palmar's points here).
Oats (at least up to where I stopped) hasn't started tunneling anyone yet, and is doing his 'drop a question into a bucket' thing he does as scum. I saw him engaging with the thread but had trouble figuring out what he was hoping to get from his questions and/or didn't see what he was doing with the answers he got.
There's some rumblings for FT. Nothing struck me as odd about him from what I read. I'll look closer tonight.
Here are some dudes, nothing odd about FT.
On October 02 2013 01:09 s0Lstice wrote:
like I said earlier I did get up to page 40 or so. still don't like the FT lynch. didn't see anything in his filter that screamed scum to me.
from what I saw I would like to lynch hiro
Don't like FT. Didn't see anything scum.
On October 02 2013 01:15 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:09 ShiaoPi wrote:
can you elaborate on reads you have made so far? yea I got WoS, Vayne, s&b, VE, Koshi as town reads I feel pretty good about. WoS for being engaged and furthering discussion into useful directions, s&b for a few posts that struck me as really good thinking, VE is gut, Koshi hasn't flipped his switch to 'woe is me/how does I play game/is this good?' yet so he's probably town, Vayne for lacking ad hom mainly but also for some useful contributions that I'm not used to from him. hiro entered the thread and didn't say shit about the rando lynch thing despite it being THE topic. I don't see how a townie isn't geeked out to talk about it. Hated his passive 'want to see more from X' posts. Oats may have gotten better, but what I said earlier still stands at least from what I saw. I see participation in the thread without any motive force behind it.
Here are some reads, nothing on FT.
On October 02 2013 04:19 s0Lstice wrote:
@austin: tell me how I express guilt, specifically as it retains to an internet forum. you must know as it's important to your read on me.
##vote hiro protagonist
All my townreads for the most part are on FT and that makes me not want to sheep after all
I read this as "My townreads are on FT and I am townie on FT so I'm not going to sheep like I said," but still without ANY substantiation of the FT townread.
On October 02 2013 04:59 s0Lstice wrote:
I'd prefer to not die by fire shiao. I just don't feel anything for you vs some positive feelings for FT.
Still think hiro is a better lynch than both
Positive feelings for FT.
You make good posts. You have good reads. (AS TOWN). Here, you have a "read" that is never really substantiated, starts as just "don't find anything scummy" but has never involved actually pointing to a single thing you find TOWNIE.
This was a person up for lynch today, your first day to be able to lynch. But you never seem to actually look at him and present thoughts, you just keep plugging away, mentioning him without saying anything, and skate by. If you think FT is townie, like I do, and have reasons that you have presented and argued, like I do, then you might think that this is mafia calling a townie a townie but not being able to formulate his reasoning. Willing to drop a big old "here are some reads" but never actually substantiate the read on a serious lynch candidate today...no townie.
Muy scumioso.
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Oh yeah that reminds me.
Oats is scum.
I think I'm closing in on the scumteams. Good ol' not being D1 so I can feel useful.
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man there's so many cool things you can do as cops this game that could break the game if you play together, we are so reliant on them. I really hope our cops aren't 2 scrubs.
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LOL oh my god I can't believe I didn't notice this before.
hahaha wow I'm terrible.
Oats congrats for flying completely under the radar at this point---I had completely forgotten you were even IN this game.
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knowing oats he is one of the cops and isn't sending in night actions the entire game
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Rayn please be town. I want to have a game where I don't have to worry about you.
I ALWAYS worry about you.
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On October 02 2013 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
knowing oats he is one of the cops and isn't sending in night actions the entire game
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Damn it Vayne. You make me so fucking angry but then you say funny shit and it makes me not as angry at you anymore.
Like in Noire.
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And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order.
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On October 02 2013 10:26 austinmcc wrote:
And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order.
He might be scum just for that.
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On October 02 2013 10:26 austinmcc wrote:
And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order.
You keep catching me with that shit at bad times.
+ Show Spoiler +Also I didn't find them funny 
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one example I have ( gonna try and help our cops out here)
1 of the cops uses precision shot.
the other walkie talkies the person shot at. If they are town you add another person to your town circle, if they are scum...well they are dead.
I can post more if anyone thinks this isn't retarded.
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On October 02 2013 10:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:26 austinmcc wrote:
And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order. He might be scum just for that. The sad thing is I legitimately find that scummy. Whenever I've asked random dumb questions to people, town has responded and scum have ducked them/said they don't understand/not responded. It's 2/2 on catching scum even though it's not supposed to, never should, and I don't understand.
If WoS is scum, I might actually have to put some credence in reads based on stupid crap, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that world yet.
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On October 02 2013 10:28 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:27 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2013 10:26 austinmcc wrote:
And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order. He might be scum just for that. The sad thing is I legitimately find that scummy. Whenever I've asked random dumb questions to people, town has responded and scum have ducked them/said they don't understand/not responded. It's 2/2 on catching scum even though it's not supposed to, never should, and I don't understand. If WoS is scum, I might actually have to put some credence in reads based on stupid crap, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that world yet.
welcome to the dark side
most of my scum reads are based on useless and irrelevant shit that I am too embarrassed to even publish
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I think some bus driving may be in order. I don't suggest Walkie Talkie, probably not worth it unless it's super cheap.
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On October 02 2013 10:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:28 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 10:27 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2013 10:26 austinmcc wrote:
And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order. He might be scum just for that. The sad thing is I legitimately find that scummy. Whenever I've asked random dumb questions to people, town has responded and scum have ducked them/said they don't understand/not responded. It's 2/2 on catching scum even though it's not supposed to, never should, and I don't understand. If WoS is scum, I might actually have to put some credence in reads based on stupid crap, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that world yet. welcome to the dark side most of my scum reads are based on useless and irrelevant shit that I am too embarrassed to even publish
I would like to hear them.
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