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On October 02 2013 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:28 austinmcc wrote:
I WILL ACTIVATE THE SIRENS KNOCK IT OFF
VE
THE THREAD HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY ARGUING.
ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO CHAT WITH AUSTINMCC INSTEAD OF ARGUING?
You want to lynch Hiro Protagonist. And Palmar?
I will gladly chat about either of those people, and listen, and maybe get down with them lynches, if you will talk to me about solstice and ... pandain.
Specifically, I will offer this --> Hiro Pro does not look good, but why do I lynch him NOW instead of trying to get him to comment on like...a bunch of stuff, lynching him if he doesn't or his responses are super scummy? Where did the bolded come from? Anyway, I'll discuss s0l with you. I'm willfully ignoring Pandain for the moment, but promise to take a look before dawn and I'll provide my read then. Anything specific you want to discuss about s0lstice? Mainly from I think misreading this postOn October 02 2013 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
You didn't really push the rayn lynch through which I WOULD have expected from a town Palmar. But I'm not sure how much of that to attribute to you not having played in X amount of time, now in a game with several people who you're not sure will just blindly do what you say. Ultimately, that's not enough for me to change my read. Which I took as "you look scummy for x" "but maybe you're town because of the circumstances" "except that's not enough for me to change my read"
Actually, I really hate your posts on Palmar because it doesn't seem like you can figure out WHAT you want to do with him, despite calling him town at a couple points you don't seem convinced.
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On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful.
yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched.
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VE:
VE what do you make of the vote switches and voting trends around the deadline? Have you had a chance to look?
Regarding hiro: I want to hear back from him.
What about him made you think he was scum? Maybe I missed it in your filter but I don't really see much.
Sorry if I'm being impatient but I'm assuming you didn't just want me to confirm some sort of scumread without discussing it.
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On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter.
But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you.
Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something.
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On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play
No ad homs but indirectly insults everyone else in the game.
Ugh every post you make baits me.
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On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful. yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched.
I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me.
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On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful. yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched. I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me.
I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then
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On October 02 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter. But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you. Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something.
could you elaborate on how having 3 clear scum reads seems like waffling to you?
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On October 02 2013 09:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play No ad homs but indirectly insults everyone else in the game. Ugh every post you make baits me.
Deservedly so. When people respond to my reads with "loL baD, wronG br0" then you can't expect to be complimented?
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On October 02 2013 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful. yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched. I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me. I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then
I thought you unvoted me for SP.
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On October 02 2013 10:04 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful. yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched. I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me. I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then I thought you unvoted me for SP.
I did as you weren't a viable lynch and shaiopi martyred. My #1 intolerance
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On October 02 2013 10:01 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter. But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you. Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something. could you elaborate on how having 3 clear scum reads seems like waffling to you? I think if you have 3 clear scum reads, that is sexy and good.
However, THIS post is NOT 3 clear scum reads:On September 30 2013 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.
Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.
No need to reply to this post, I won't read it
And this is the post that I keep coming back to and having trouble with. I'm specifically talking about that single post, and you don't present those people as clear scumreads there, imo.
(Side note: When I want to find that post, I open your full filter and do a search for the word boner, because I know it appears in that post and no others.....)
If you're using "these people interacted with BH" as part of thinking all three of those people are scum, then I also find that wonky, as it's unlikely they all got together and shot BH.
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On October 02 2013 10:05 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:04 Pandain wrote:On October 02 2013 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful. yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched. I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me. I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then I thought you unvoted me for SP. I did as you weren't a viable lynch and shaiopi martyred. My #1 intolerance
You unvoted me several hours ago, I still could have been a lynch. From what I understand many people suspect me.
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I think you're inconsistent, scum, and others should vote Vayne.
I also wish there was a voting thread.
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Martyring hasn't been a scumtell since...I dunno.
Can't even think of the last game where a scum martyred Maybe Bluelightz---I think DrH did.
Other than that, always townies. Terrible terrible townies.
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On October 02 2013 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:VE: Show nested quote +VE what do you make of the vote switches and voting trends around the deadline? Have you had a chance to look?
I haven't had a chance to look - I DID go back and read the last couple of pages before the lynch, but I haven't looked too hard at the numbers. Something I took away after reading: Palmar looks much worse than I thought, and I'll need to read that whole exchange between he and rayn. DAMNIT.
Show nested quote +Regarding hiro: I want to hear back from him.
What about him made you think he was scum? Maybe I missed it in your filter but I don't really see much. Sorry if I'm being impatient but I'm assuming you didn't just want me to confirm some sort of scumread without discussing it.
It's the same shit that you pointed out basically, but unlike you I'm taking the stance that I think it's scummy. Like, look at the middle of D2 - where I was just absent, hiro made a special effort to pop in and say he was reading. Why would he do that as town if he had nothing to say? I mean, I can understand being busy and just not having time (obviously) but like, why would he care to pop in and confirm that he had nothing to say as town? As scum he's at least giving the illusion that he's reading and thinking about the game, but as town what did he hope to accomplish?
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On October 02 2013 10:06 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs. I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter. This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that. I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter. But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you. Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something. could you elaborate on how having 3 clear scum reads seems like waffling to you? I think if you have 3 clear scum reads, that is sexy and good. However, THIS post is NOT 3 clear scum reads: Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.
Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.
No need to reply to this post, I won't read it And this is the post that I keep coming back to and having trouble with. I'm specifically talking about that single post, and you don't present those people as clear scumreads there, imo. (Side note: When I want to find that post, I open your full filter and do a search for the word boner, because I know it appears in that post and no others.....) If you're using "these people interacted with BH" as part of thinking all three of those people are scum, then I also find that wonky, as it's unlikely they all got together and shot BH.
No that really is only a minor point in my full read on them. It's complicated and rest assured I read over all filters and searched for a few keywords here and there (not boner). If you progress past that post you can see how that post turns into concrete scum reads on the 3 of them.
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austin, I'll discuss s0lstice with you
just to be clear...I am scum because I haven't been chomping at the bit to get all caught up and not be useless like you were correct?
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On October 02 2013 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:VE: VE what do you make of the vote switches and voting trends around the deadline? Have you had a chance to look? I haven't had a chance to look - I DID go back and read the last couple of pages before the lynch, but I haven't looked too hard at the numbers. Something I took away after reading: Palmar looks much worse than I thought, and I'll need to read that whole exchange between he and rayn. DAMNIT. Show nested quote +Regarding hiro: I want to hear back from him.
What about him made you think he was scum? Maybe I missed it in your filter but I don't really see much. Sorry if I'm being impatient but I'm assuming you didn't just want me to confirm some sort of scumread without discussing it. It's the same shit that you pointed out basically, but unlike you I'm taking the stance that I think it's scummy. Like, look at the middle of D2 - where I was just absent, hiro made a special effort to pop in and say he was reading. Why would he do that as town if he had nothing to say? I mean, I can understand being busy and just not having time (obviously) but like, why would he care to pop in and confirm that he had nothing to say as town? As scum he's at least giving the illusion that he's reading and thinking about the game, but as town what did he hope to accomplish?
I've done it as town before.
And been called out for it.
Call it a 'I feel guilty I've been underperforming and not helping town' kinda thing? Guilt is certainly not exclusive to scum.
I'm not saying hiro is town btw, I really just want him to explain his baffling lack of explanation on basically all of his reads. He may have explained what happened to the read on me actually, but I still want to hear about that and the rest from him.
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On October 02 2013 10:06 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:05 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 10:04 Pandain wrote:On October 02 2013 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:Vayne do you still believe this: On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful. yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched. I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me. I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then I thought you unvoted me for SP. I did as you weren't a viable lynch and shaiopi martyred. My #1 intolerance You unvoted me several hours ago, I still could have been a lynch. From what I understand many people suspect me.
look if you're not even going to follow the thread (I at least give people that courtesy) then we have nothing to discuss here. I unvoted you 5 minutes before the deadline. We're done here.
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