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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 02 2013 00:05 GMT
#2181
On October 02 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyone around?
It's time to have discussion.
People need to own up to their shit.

I may or may not be around.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2013 00:06 GMT
#2182
Wave you need to stop with the fucking high-and-mighty bullshit. I'm around, but I'm in reactive mode because I'm at work.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 02 2013 00:09 GMT
#2183
so um... what would you like to discuss.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#2184
On October 02 2013 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wave you need to stop with the fucking high-and-mighty bullshit. I'm around, but I'm in reactive mode because I'm at work.

No high-and-mighty.
People need to own up to ridiculous vote-switching last second and what appears to be people protecting FT.
Normally I would say it's probably not indicative but in this game the scumteams need to stay close together so I wouldn't be surprised if there were people specifically looking to protect him.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#2185
I still want to lynch hiro protagonist. Wave, talk to me. Why are you not even glancing in his direction?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:13 GMT
#2186
And every time I look back at this thread I realize something else that's just so ridiculous scummy (and/or stupid) about FT's play.

On October 02 2013 03:07 FirmTofu wrote:
Since I'm probably going to get lynched today, I'll try to put my reads out there for everyone to use after the flip. Remember to watch how people are voting today. I think the people who voted me earlier are more likely to be scum than the later ones.

Does he really think this is more likely?
Does a town FT really think that somebody who pushed him balls-out all day is scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:15 GMT
#2187
On October 02 2013 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I still want to lynch hiro protagonist. Wave, talk to me. Why are you not even glancing in his direction?

Because no one glances in the direction of people I have found scummy most of the game and have wanted to lynch.


...fuck that, that's vindictive and stupid but it's what I feel like saying.
If you want I'll look at him now. I just can't help but feel that everything I say and do this game is fruitless.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2013 00:16 GMT
#2188
You sonofabitch WHO WAS MY VOET ON MOTHERFUCKER
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 00:17 GMT
#2189
On October 02 2013 09:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
And every time I look back at this thread I realize something else that's just so ridiculous scummy (and/or stupid) about FT's play.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 03:07 FirmTofu wrote:
Since I'm probably going to get lynched today, I'll try to put my reads out there for everyone to use after the flip. Remember to watch how people are voting today. I think the people who voted me earlier are more likely to be scum than the later ones.

Does he really think this is more likely?
Does a town FT really think that somebody who pushed him balls-out all day is scum?
Scum FT knows he'll flip scum and nobody will care WHAT he said.

That statement isn't singling someone out, giving a solid read that he could try to push as him scumhunting, leading to people moving their votes off him. It's a "goddamnit why are they lynching me I can't solve the game right now and I don't want to be lynched so baaaaaaaaad here is what i think" post. As town he wants to drop half-thoughts like that. As scum that post is useless because nobody cares when he flips.

For serious, dude is town.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:18 GMT
#2190
And more on FT; I can't get past the fact that he promised reads and didn't deliver. This is like primary fucking scum MO. Broken promises. I used this heuristic to decent success in Golden Sun: townies willingly give reads before they die. Scum don't; they don't give a shit. I can think of only one time I have ever seen a scummer give a list of WIFOM before he gets lynched----ironically the only example being ShiaoPi in LXI.

Hell, even if you don't want to believe me and/or think I'm shitty, LISTEN TO BH, THE GOOD DEAD PLAYER AND CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWNIE.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:19 GMT
#2191
On October 02 2013 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
You sonofabitch WHO WAS MY VOET ON MOTHERFUCKER

But you weren't here to help push it while the rest of town flerped and derped.
You did dick all for the entirety of D2.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:20 GMT
#2192
Austin I think the only reason you have poitns with me right now is some comment you made about being willing to lynch VA over SP/FT.
Can you explain why?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2013 00:20 GMT
#2193
Okay well since that's your fucking attitude, you can go to hell. You bitch and moan about people not listening to you, well here I was, listening to you, voting who you wanted me to. Oh you didn't like that I wasn't here pushing the lynch DURING THE TIME I WAS TAKING THE BUS TO WORK?! SORRY BRO JESUS FUCK
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:22 GMT
#2194
VE right now the only person I felt I had on my side was Palmar and then he fucking did some SHIT.
So now I have nobody and I'm all pissed again. I really wanted you to be town and useful. Now I don't knwo about either of those. I needed a marv this game, not a Stutters.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 00:23 GMT
#2195
On October 02 2013 09:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Austin I think the only reason you have poitns with me right now is some comment you made about being willing to lynch VA over SP/FT.
Can you explain why?
Cuz I think FT and SP are both town. See mah posts on them, but I was townie on them both.

As far as other people who were even in the realm of discussion, because nobody wanted Koshi and there wasn't much ability to even start getting traction on solstice, VA was the guy I liked out of the set. Only got the one post on VA - + Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2013 04:51 austinmcc wrote:
I don't think either one of you is scum. The votes on you are a little scummier than the votes on ShiaoPi, imo, given that I'm fine with you and snb, scummy on Koshi, and unknown on VE/CC/HP.

If I need to consolidate, that's a later thing.

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On October 02 2013 03:53 strongandbig wrote:
Austin are you really planning on going allin on a last-hour-before-deadline switch to solstice? You're gonna have to persuade me that none of ft, shiaopi, or va are scum, and I'm currently of the opinion that at least one of them and probably two is/are. Like, if you're serious this is gonna take an effort.

Or are you just trying to about taking a stance. You've said why you don't think ft is scum but you're gonna need to give us more than "I usually think shiaopi is town" and "no comment on va" before you can just abstain out of this lynch.
Looked back at VA. , because I DID give no comment on him.

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On September 30 2013 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.

Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.

No need to reply to this post, I won't read it

Disliked this post. I know we tend to undervalue the reads of early dead dudes, but this is too much. He died, therefore these guys look bad and this guy maybe looks bad, based on a single day of work. I don't love looking at it from "who looks bad with BH dead" instead of "what were BH's scum reads", and for someone who's trying to contribute little and observe much, I don't love this as being a jumping-in point? It's not much of a contribution, is highly speculative.

His exchange with HP also reads a little bit like butt. Calls HP scummier than before for responding to someone accusing HP of being scum because of only talking about one scumteam. Gotta have "inherent guilt" in order to address the alleged scumslip.

However, then he turns straight around and doesn't know how to read it:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:19 Pandain wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't see why you actually take the time to address that "scumslip" unless you have some serious inherent guilt


Or he wants to appear town?

Addressing an argument isn't the same as having inherent guilt.


Actually there is a fairly large difference, addressing a good/strong argument is a necessity. defending yourself against a "scumslip" at a time when everybody was just bullshitting is inherent guilt.

I don't know what to make of it though since as far as I can tell he is a very passive/apologetic player.
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 10:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:22 Pandain wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:19 Pandain wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't see why you actually take the time to address that "scumslip" unless you have some serious inherent guilt


Or he wants to appear town?

Addressing an argument isn't the same as having inherent guilt.


Actually there is a fairly large difference, addressing a good/strong argument is a necessity. defending yourself against a "scumslip" at a time when everybody was just bullshitting is inherent guilt.

I don't know what to make of it though since as far as I can tell he is a very passive/apologetic player.


Well clearly you made of it that he's scummy.



I'm backtracking though since for him as a player it doesn't necessarily say anything.


Which...maybe true, maybe not. But what I actually don't like the most about that exchange is that smack in the middle of those posts, CC posts a big thing on HP - + Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2013 10:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm townreading CR for this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 06:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Oh shit! I didn't get lynched on day 1 this time. I think it's pretty clear that I'm mafia. This will never happen if I'm town.


Chairman Ray has been the victim of D1 mislynches in his first two games. If he's mafia this game, I'd believe that he'd be even more cautious of the noose. I don't know of many players who, on their first scum game, would make a joke like this. This is a joke post that is null if a player like myself posted it, but for a noob like CR I'm leaning townie.

Bit worried about HiroProtagonist (consider me the HiroAntagonist LELELEL)

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 12:48 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup Homies. long time sense I last played, lets get to it.

First thoughts sense reading the thread, I would like to hear more from ShiaoPi, and VA. Both are giving off a "nothing to see here" vibe so far. Lets hear something more substantial please.

Yamato, VE, and Grackaroni, you guys just keep doing your thing.



Opening post pretty weak. He'd like to hear more from some lurky dudes (duh) and tells people to keep doing things that they are currently doing, but fails to mention a read on any of the 3 bottom guys.

He keeps telling people what to do, but fails really to do anything himself.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:21 hiro protagonist wrote:
WoS, If you wanna vent a bit, fine. But Im not gonna let how you feel be a vail for you to slack off and hide. Your opening post was a good start, why dont you do more of that. If your attitude starts to mess with town atmosphere, Im gonna call you on it.



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On September 27 2013 13:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Oats, your not helping.

Sense I answered your question, would you care to give me your thoughts on Yamato and BH?

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:59 hiro protagonist wrote:
On September 27 2013 13:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 27 2013 13:46 hiro protagonist wrote:
I find Palmar really hard to read... so far his play is less trolly than Im used to. His post in the first part of the game pusherd discussion along, some points for that. So far, he is in the null column. Lets see what he brings to the table.

@WoS, Hiro Protagonist is the Protagonist of 'Snow Crash'. Hacker, worlds greatest swordsman, pizza delivery guy funny that they 2 people on TL with that tag play Mafia.


Him claiming to be part of the scumteam is not trolling?
lol.


I didnt say he wasn't trolling, just that he was less trolly. hes trolled waaaayyy hard than this.

VA, your here, and actively lurking hardcore. reads? opinons? any thing at all to give me a reason not to lynch you?



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On September 27 2013 15:03 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hmm, VA, in case you dont get it, you need to contribute. you cant just sit there and 'watch'. Unless you give me a good reason for you to just chill back(hint: you cant), then you better start giving me reads. what do you think af the game so far? who is suspicious in your eyes? What might have slipped under the radar?

From this point on, your gonna carry your weight. got it?


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On September 27 2013 15:27 hiro protagonist wrote:
I would like to see ShiaoPi and BH post more.

kk, with that im off to bed ^__^


Posts like these are easy to make as mafia. They tell people to go off and post more, give reads, pull their own weight, etc. However, in the entirety of these posts and before HiroProtagonist goes to bed, he has accomplished essentially nothing except extrapolate on his Palmar null read. It looks like he's actively doing things, but doesn't seem to be doing much of anything. He hasn't given reads but tells other people to give reads.

The rest of his filter for the day sheeps the Yamato scumread. He literally quoted Pandain's case and said "I think exactly what Pandain thinks here" without any prior indication that he believed Yamato was mafia. By reading HiroProtagonist's filter before this, I would believe that he thinks WoS is mafia because he "called out his bullshit". Not seeing much town from HP.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Note: The Koshi to Yamato switch was awfully weird considering it landed on town. Granted, I liked the target so I can't complain much. Random lynch just seemed so epiccccccc

ShaioPi is a fantastic night shot tomorrow. If you're mafia not on ShaioPi's team shoot him plz you gotta kill the other team sometime eh? Or cops gogo.

I'm not sure if FT is bad or scum.
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On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote:
Anyone who supports RNG, myself included, should still scumhunt and make full use of the day. There is still much to say and much to find. Anyone who stops scumhunting should be subject to lynch as well.

following his own heuristic he should be lynched.

You couldn't give me a klondike bar to read Rayn. Rereading WoS/Palmar/SnB. I'm just going to decide VE is town in my brain and not read into him that much unless he decides to transform into ScumeraEyes.

. VA actively talking about HP, discussing him with Pandain, but never chats with CC about his read, doesn't poke at it, support it, anything. Makes VA's posts on HP look more like posturing than a real read.

Willing to lynch VA over SP and FT, would still go for other targets more though.


Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2013 00:23 GMT
#2196
Wave feel free to take a look at ANY fucking game I've played and cross-reference my activity during weekends. Regardless of alignment. Weekends are bad for me, always have been, always will be. 100% of the time. For someone who claims to know how I play pretty well, I'm pretty surprised you've never noticed this trend.

That being said, yes. I didn't do much D2. What I DID do, however, was VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANTED LYNCHED.

And now, I'm here, trying to discuss shit with you and all you've got is "WHATEVER VE YOU WEREN'T AROUND DOING MY JOB FOR ME"

Fuck off. Srs.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:24 GMT
#2197
On October 02 2013 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay well since that's your fucking attitude, you can go to hell. You bitch and moan about people not listening to you, well here I was, listening to you, voting who you wanted me to. Oh you didn't like that I wasn't here pushing the lynch DURING THE TIME I WAS TAKING THE BUS TO WORK?! SORRY BRO JESUS FUCK

Really? That's what you're going with?
Want to dive through your own filter and find your D2 contributions?
Voting for who I want isn't enough.

If you care about the town then you fucking DO something.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2013 00:25 GMT
#2198
On October 02 2013 09:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay well since that's your fucking attitude, you can go to hell. You bitch and moan about people not listening to you, well here I was, listening to you, voting who you wanted me to. Oh you didn't like that I wasn't here pushing the lynch DURING THE TIME I WAS TAKING THE BUS TO WORK?! SORRY BRO JESUS FUCK

Really? That's what you're going with?
Want to dive through your own filter and find your D2 contributions?
Voting for who I want isn't enough.

If you care about the town then you fucking DO something.

MOTHERFUCKER I ASKED YOU TO LOOK AT HIRO! I THINK HIRO IS SCUM DUDE, AND I WANT TO DISCUSS THAT SHIT WITH YOU! QUIT FUCKING LECTURING ME OR I SWEAR TO GOD THIS GAME IS OVER FOR ME. ACT LIKE YOU DON'T THINK I'LL RAGEQUIT THIS FUCKING GAME TOO DUDE.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 02 2013 00:26 GMT
#2199
guys chill out. We've had enough mafia drama for one week.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 02 2013 00:26 GMT
#2200
On October 02 2013 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wave feel free to take a look at ANY fucking game I've played and cross-reference my activity during weekends. Regardless of alignment. Weekends are bad for me, always have been, always will be. 100% of the time. For someone who claims to know how I play pretty well, I'm pretty surprised you've never noticed this trend.

That being said, yes. I didn't do much D2. What I DID do, however, was VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANTED LYNCHED.

And now, I'm here, trying to discuss shit with you and all you've got is "WHATEVER VE YOU WEREN'T AROUND DOING MY JOB FOR ME"

Fuck off. Srs.

I will not fuck off, because I have some hell-bent masochistic obligation to fight despite it being an ever-losing battle.
No I didn't notice weekends being bad for you. For that I apologize, however I'd like to make it very well-known that when I'm not going to be around I have the courtesy to tell people at the very least when I won't be around. It's the least I can do when people expect me to play a game I've willingly joined.

VE what do you make of the vote switches and voting trends around the deadline? Have you had a chance to look?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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