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onlywonderboy
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onlywonderboy
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On September 25 2013 13:01 BajaBlood wrote: Also, I'm going to have to try reallllly hard not to edit posts, lol. I have a dreadful habit of noticing grammar/spelling errors right as I click post and fix them immediately after (probably a good 30-50% of my posts outside of this forum). Hopefully I don't get myself mod-killed Oh god, I do this constantly. Gotta remember this rule >_< | ||
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onlywonderboy
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On September 25 2013 14:39 Jayte wrote: It's game time. Mafia, put your hands up now. If only it were that easy lol. | ||
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On September 25 2013 21:16 BajaBlood wrote: Also I totally read the post two above mine as "LYNCH STORMTEMPLAR". Was going to say, 'that's an interesting first move' I thought the same thing. Thought "boy, that escalated quickly." | ||
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Jayte: Joke post to start off the game, hasn't contributed anything of value. Isn't trying to cause chaos in the town, but his absence is questionable. Mentions being busy with work, could just be throwing that out so we don't seem suspicious MLuneth: Had that odd question to start, could have easily asked a coach instead of putting it in the thread. playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. | ||
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onlywonderboy
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On September 26 2013 23:41 MLuneth wrote: Mate, all you've done here is repeat some one liners and suck up to playerboy, now I've read some of your LoL articles and they're pretty good, so I believe that you can do significantly better than that. Super Scummy post as it ads nothing at all to any discussion I said the analysis was pretty good, but I said to be wary of playerboy. I would hardly consider that sucking up. Some of this is my fault for not jumping into the discussion earlier, but there haven't been that many posts to analysis, so of course I'm going to retread some territory. People were calling me out so I tried to be upfront with my opinions. Not scummy, just responding to the people asking to know where I stand. | ||
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@JonnyLaw I'll respond to your inquiry when I have more time. Short version is I liked that he was putting the time into profile everyone, not that I really agreed with all the analysis. "Great" might have been too strong of a word I suppose. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:15 playerboy345 wrote: After rereading this: I feel onlywonderboy is the person I'm getting highest scum read from. He likes that I put time into a post but he says that he didn't agree with all the analysis, then why not elaborate on what you didn't agree with? He leaves with a vote on Blurry and says he'll post when he has more time, it's been two hours and he hasn't posted anything yet so my vote is on him. ##Vote onlywonderboy I wrote that message 5 minutes before I had to leave for work, I simply didn't have enough time to express my thoughts in a way I was comfortable with. When I said I'd elaborate later I meant after the voting had taken place because I knew I was going to be at work all night. If it would have progressed further I was going to bring up the issue I had, but it was irrelevant as the debate focused mostly on other players. The main one that stuck out to me was the BajaBlood read. I think the main reason he called out xIvanJ was because it was his only post AND it was a plea to not lynch lurkers. Seems more suspicious than the other post. Probably not enough to get a good read off of, but I'd say the two posts you cited were different. Blurry was just a vote I thought was safe because I wasn't sure how everything was going to unfold while I was away. And boy did I not expect the turn of events that occurred. Sucks to lose a blue on night one. Not sure if I would have changed my vote, wish I would have been able to take place in the conversation. | ||
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onlywonderboy
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johnny + Show Spoiler + while reading through the thread, i didn't like this guy. but reading his filter specifically, this post gives him a town read for now. i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, provided this type of analysis continues. + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2013 04:05 JonnyLaw wrote: + Show Spoiler [Blurry] + His first post was good but not enough to give any read. I really hope he contributes something soon because his lack of participation is hurting the game and his chances of surviving the lynch. + Show Spoiler [playerboy345] + He's been active in trying to move discussion forward throughout the game. Feels okay to me for now. + Show Spoiler [heavenz] + heavenz willingness to question people's reads puts him out there more than he may want at this point if he was scum. Again, seems all right to keep around for now. He's contributing and trying to force slips out of people. + Show Spoiler [onlywonderboy] + owb I've read most of your LOL material. You can write and critically think. WHAT did you like about playerboy's analysis in particular? What are your opinions on the other twelve players in this game? I'm not liking the read I'm getting here. + Show Spoiler [stormtemplar] + stormtemplar is looking scummy to me. He writes a lot and yet says nothing. He's basically said he agrees zaragon might be town, he doesn't know about playerboy and death to all lurkers while telling others to contribute more to the thread. He's trying to misdirect and confuse discussion rather than forwarding it which I do not care for. + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + Zaragon has been making similar reads to my own throughout the game and pushing for strong participation. He definitely feels more town than many others in the game. His willingness to focus on particular people could mean he's trying to get attention away from himself and the rest of the mafia but for now it's too early to say. I give him the benefit of the doubt. + Show Spoiler [Balla24] + Balla24 reads fairly town. He's been agreeing with heavenz and Zaragon whom I also like for the town. I could be getting fooled here and there are two mafia in their threesome. For now, there's better options to lynch though. + Show Spoiler [xIvanJ is useless] + One outta 13 aint too bad boys. Hopefully our replacement can play. + Show Spoiler [Jayte] + Could be lurking as a mafia. I just can't read him from the level of content he's put out. + Show Spoiler [MLuneth] + I want to call this guy scum from my gut. I really, really want to do it. But re-reading his posts just make me think he's a bit hasty and not scum at all. There are grammatical errors, shortened words and that half written post he managed to post. I dunno, he doesn't feel like mafia at this point in the game. + Show Spoiler [BajaBlood] + Hasn't said a lot. Could be leaning mafia, but he's okay for now. + Show Spoiler [bereft] + I know he said he'd be busy but why is no one mentioning his inactivity? Still, not the best candidate for a lynch. Okay here's my summation. Blurry, bereft (who did say he would be busy), Jayte and xIvanJ are inactive. I still think we should look for a better lynch candidate for today. I like zaragon, balla24 and heavenz contribution but I might be getting fooled because they seem to agree quite often. But hell, they're reasonable opinions. Time to see where people cast their votes. I've read through stormtemplar's posts multiple times now. He literally says nothing in them. Clogging conversation after being accused of being scum. I disagree and he's just trying to change the focus away from himself. Until he puts up a better defense of himself #vote stormtemplar wonderboy + Show Spoiler + this guy's posting has been waaay subpar, especially coming from a TL writer! i want to call out this post in particular: On September 26 2013 22:29 onlywonderboy wrote: I think I got scared into writing one liners due to people claiming we were going to lynch non-active people. But, tis true, I should have transitioned into writing more useful posts. This is still my first game so I'm trying to take a lot of it in. I have pretty much zero knowledge of everyone in this game so getting a read off of people on a relatively few number of pages is proving more difficult than I had hoped. That said, stand outs right now: Jayte: Joke post to start off the game, hasn't contributed anything of value. Isn't trying to cause chaos in the town, but his absence is questionable. Mentions being busy with work, could just be throwing that out so we don't seem suspicious MLuneth: Had that odd question to start, could have easily asked a coach instead of putting it in the thread. playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. the threatened lynch on lurkers should make you one to SPEAK UP if anything, not post pointless one liners. also calls playerboy's post "great analysis", which i believe others have called out as well. what exactly did you find great? he hasn't clarified this but says he will. i'll be waiting to see what he says. his vote on blurry also seems like a 'safe' vote, in that other players (myself, zaragon to name a few) have already tossed blurry's name about as someone whose current posting is deviating from his pro-town posting in previous games. right now, i say wonderboy's a pretty decent candidate for the lynch. playerboy + Show Spoiler + i find playerboy's argument against threatening to lynch lurkers and description on 'what mafia will do in that scenario' pretty bad and one dimensional. On September 25 2013 21:50 playerboy345 wrote: After rereading the previous page I found this: The only thing you CAN achieve with lynching lurkers is getting people to be more active, and I'm pretty sure we need to hunt scum, not force people to write meaningless posts. It puts literally ZERO pressure on the mafia, we need to be actively scumhunting - not lurkerhunting. his arguments seem to improve as the thread goes on -- i'm getting really tired now so i'm starting to skim..will reread his filter and post more tomorrow -- but for now he seems to be genuine and making an effort, so i don't see him as a strong lynch candidate for d2 atm. baja + Show Spoiler + as far as i can tell, this guy has only posted analysis on afk'ers. this is useless and pointless in my book. i don't take issue with the fact that he chose to go with a policy lynch for d1. however, if he doesn't start giving thoughts on the people actually participating in this game, i will find him suspicious. stormtemplar + Show Spoiler + some people have been throwing this guy's name around, but looking through his filter i find nothing that screams a scum tell, but at the same time, nothing particularly memorable. for now he's not ranked high in my book alright i'm fking tired and my analysis is getting shittier as it goes on. i'll need to reeval some of the filters tomorrow. here's the tl;dr: i'd lean towards wonderboy followed by baja for d2 lynch given the current situation. i didn't bother evaluating the afk'ers. blurry, i'm holding you to your promise to post! xIvanJ is a joke -- vig should just shoot him if we still have one. funny thing is now that i think about the ridiculous nature of jayte's posts, i suspect he's actually vanilla town... Writing about LoL is nothing like writing for this game lol. It's like a completely different set of mental tools when it comes to analysis. I guess my point is the skills aren't a 1-1 transfer ratio so I'm still adjusting. I think I accidentally dug myself into a hole when I used the word "great." I liked the post, mostly because he included everyone (even if he didn't have much to say) and was a good place to start a lot of discussion. Knowing the type of game this is and how super analytical people are expected to be, I should have been more careful with my word choice. | ||
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onlywonderboy
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On September 27 2013 12:50 Balla24 wrote: @onlywonderboy, I mean you're only digging yourself into even more of a hole by defending it so much. If you're town you have nothing to hide. Then again people keep bringing it up. Let's hear your reads. Who is most scum to you? What do you think of everything Bereft has been saying etc. You're right, I'm probably trying too hard to defend myself. Although, as town, I'd have nothing to hide, but I wouldn't want to get lynched and hurt the rest of the town. I'm going to bed soon, I want to reread everything before making any claims, want to make sure I'm careful with my reads. | ||
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My vote for the first night, mostly due to his in activeness. Still hasn't posted very much so it's hard to get a good read. Claims he's going to do an analysis later so hopefully that will possibly give home more insight into his allegiance. + Show Spoiler [Playerboy345] + All his posts have a strong town vibe. He's going after people he think are scum and making good arguments against them. I thought using his first vote on me was odd as it wasn't likely to change everyone's mind in such a short period of time. No real signs of being a scum, but I want to keep my eye on him. If he is scum, he's in a position where a lot of people seem to be listening to him. + Show Spoiler [Heavenz] + Decent amount of participation, seems town enough. Was questioned when people called him out for his town read on me, had a good response that was well reasoned + Show Spoiler [JonnyLaw] + I'm torn on my opinion of Jonny. He had a really good read on MLuneth where he pretty much called him as being a bad townie, but he switched his vote to MLuneth without much debate. He claimed we would gain more information lynching MLuenth instead of a lurker, but it was pretty much a crap shoot either way + Show Spoiler [Stormtemplar] + Seems the scummiest of the active players. Had opinions on the topic of “lynching lurkers,” but a lot of his other posts are just agreements and questions without posting his own analysis. Says he's busy so we'll see how the rest of his posts develop, but I'm feeling scum at the moment. + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + Was feeling scum at first since he was the first person to bring MLuneth into the vote, but his post breaking down what happened at the lynch deadline was well thought out and made rational sense. Could have been a good cover up. I'm gonna stay neural here and see how the game develops + Show Spoiler [Balla24] + Another one I'm wary of. Didn't contribute much at first, but stepped up right before and after the lynch. Him and playerboy seem to be in agreement on a lot of things. I already mentioned I wanted to keep and eye on him, so by proxy it's a good idea to keep an eye on Balla. + Show Spoiler [XivanJ] + no opinion + Show Spoiler [Jayte] + no opinion + Show Spoiler [BajaBlood] + Also brought up the idea of MLuneth being a misguided townie. Timing was a little more suspicious, happened right before the lynch when people were starting to lean towards MLuneth. Could have been him trying to gain townie cred before MLuneth was killed + Show Spoiler [Bereft] + Probably a slight town read, calling people out and asking questions. Not much to say really. That's all I got right now. While I think we should certainly keep the discussion going, throwing out day 2 lynch candidates is a bit premature right now. The night actions of the game could easily change the landscape of the game drastically. | ||
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@Zaragon I think I'm just bad at picking out scrum reads but I'm trying :/ I'm suspicious of playerboy for most of the reasons people have post in the last couple pages (nothing new to add there so no use spamming that). I'm leaning less scum on Stormtemplar at the moment. Was suspicious at first, but honestly his posts don't really make it seem like he's going out of the way to be scummy. Could just be him laying low, but I think there has been more suspicious activity in the tread. | ||
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On September 30 2013 06:39 Blurry wrote: Onlywonderboy, your defense is entirely OMGUS. You're pushing heavenz based on the fact that he is calling you out and pressuring you. Pressuring someone isn't a scummy thing to do. No, it was because his opinion flipped 180 without really explaining himself. Would have called that our regardless of the player. | ||
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