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Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 30 2013 00:25 GMT
#421
So, the two remaining mafia are a Godfather and Roleblocker, and if we have a medic (or more than one, but unlikely in this scenario for even one) we have a Serial Killer. I hope I'm not misreading C9++.

That's sticky.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 30 2013 00:27 GMT
#422
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RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 30 2013 00:30 GMT
#423
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Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#424
Heavenz is just claiming Vanilla Town I think, so no second vigi.

But obviously the game is still pretty open now for the coming LYLO, and my cop check on JonnyLaw is not of as much value except to significantly lower the odds that he's scum.

I doubt a Doc at this point, but we could have. I'm not sure I'd be glad if we did since it means an SK at LYLO.

Anyway, no more time tonight for me to look into this. Should be a lot for everyone to discuss, and heavenz gets a slight credibility boost since Stormtemplar supports his story. I'm personally not as certain as I was on heavenz/playerboy mafia, though it's still my best bet.

Hmm so Koshi is just about confirmed town getting Roleblocked by mafia. We're down to pretty few options and possible fake claim combinations at this point.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 30 2013 01:03 GMT
#425
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 02:04 GMT
#426
Wait what, why would mafia roleblock an afk? That doesn't make sense...
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 30 2013 02:08 GMT
#427
I thought so as well at first, but then I've made a lot of mistakes this game so I can prove my idiocy already.

Ok I'm trying to look at as many angles as possible (even if I ought to be looking at my other current Mafia game or sleeping). The most obvious scum team is heavenz + playerboy. Jonnylaw is against playerboy, Balla is against heavenz. Stormtemplar and I are against heavenz + playerboy

Possible scum teams:

heavenz/playerboy
JonnyLaw (GF)/Balla (RB)
JonnyLaw (GF)/heavenz (RB)
playerboy/Balla

Without thinking outside the box and unlikely possibilities (though it's going to be LYLO, so once one confirmed town dies tonight, we have to consider everything). Because of my cop check, the JonnyLaw/Heavenz combo is 100% heavenz Roleblocker, and as RB, successfully getting his RB off while being RBed. This is not possible, I believe? I think not, which makes this scum team impossible.

A scum team with heavenz in it is more likely to Roleblock Blurry N1 than the other combinations, IMO. More support for heavenz/playerboy as a scum team.

The only line of thinking for likely scum teams I haven't investigated at all is playerboy/Balla and JonnyLaw/Balla

Filter diving on any connections or contradictions to base my own call on tomorrow (or this morning, if insomnia decides).
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 02:09 GMT
#428
I'm still not sold on the fact that Heavenz isn't scum just because he was roleblocked, especially when we know it wasn't a mafia roleblock. You all saw how "fuck it all" he was when he got roleblocked. I'm scared of SK and he's the only one who seems like an SK at this point.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 02:11 GMT
#429
There still could be a doc too so don't assume you will be dying, but do get all the information out there that you have (Zaragon/Stormtemplar)
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 30 2013 02:14 GMT
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 02:17 GMT
#431
There would need to be 1 unclaimed doctor, not 1-shot doctor. There is already an explanation for why there was one NK, you blocked the SK... is the unclaimed doctor so hard to believe? Doctor should never come out unless it is a game winning move.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 30 2013 02:27 GMT
#432
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 02:27 GMT
#433
Also, who did Bereft roleblock? There should be 3 total roleblocks on night 1 right?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 02:29 GMT
#434
You haven't been under suspicion for a while now, and you claiming that you roleblocked heavenz makes perfect sense. I 100% believe you. It is an easy thing to claim though so maybe we should re-think that. The fact that you even bring that up though makes me believe you even more.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 30 2013 02:32 GMT
#435
I'm not sold on anyone to be fair. I wanted heavenz...he responded. I went back to my original read. storm's safe enough for now. I still say we should have lynched heavenz or playerboy.

If you want my feeling on this game. I want to lynch someone who will give the town info by doing so. I wanted storm day1 and it was not going to happen. I thought Mluneth had a chance of being mafia; not high but a chance, and I played on it.

I thought owb had a very, very slight chance so I didnt wanna make the same mistake.

playerboy and heavenz; one is mafia. If we had lynched one of them yesterday it'd be easier to choose.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 30 2013 02:33 GMT
#436
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 03:32 GMT
#437
On September 30 2013 11:32 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm not sold on anyone to be fair. I wanted heavenz...he responded. I went back to my original read. storm's safe enough for now. I still say we should have lynched heavenz or playerboy.

If you want my feeling on this game. I want to lynch someone who will give the town info by doing so. I wanted storm day1 and it was not going to happen. I thought Mluneth had a chance of being mafia; not high but a chance, and I played on it.

I thought owb had a very, very slight chance so I didnt wanna make the same mistake.

playerboy and heavenz; one is mafia. If we had lynched one of them yesterday it'd be easier to choose.

i think owb did give us some info, did it not? not that it's ever good to kill a towny, but now we know for sure that out of playerboy/heavenz there is at least 1 scum... maybe 2.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 30 2013 03:32 GMT
#438
EBWOP: Well, not for sure but chances are VERY high.
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 30 2013 05:12 GMT
#439
Filters aren't telling me much new. I really should have swapped onto heavenz or stayed on playerboy all along.

There are other scum teams possible with careful bussing, but essentially the entire day 1 was meaningless because of lurkers, and I am just not getting better reads. heavenz and playerboy make sense. Minimal bussing for major active players, both made very scummy plays. heavenz shifted reads a lot, including town reading playerboy at a critical juncture, going from some careful suspicion early on.

This could almost be a scum slip, and I should definitely have spotted it sooner:

On September 30 2013 03:49 heavenz wrote:
you mentioned it probably, but playerboys voting behavior is scummy. It almost seems like he knew that mylunch was town, and went for wounderboy knowing he wouldn't get a majority on that player that time, effectivly throwing his vote away, just to get some town credit (or end up on the misslynch group).

then again, I share berefts thoughts on wounderboy, and have to agree with playboy that he never participated in anyway in a analysis of a player he thought was scummy. He just posted like I feel bad about him, but never bothered to do dig deeper.


On September 30 2013 03:56 heavenz wrote:
imho you're town


On September 30 2013 04:07 heavenz wrote:
if we lynch onlywounderboy it has the advantage that it would clear playboy, the otherway around it wouldn't yield much.


On September 30 2013 04:07 heavenz wrote:
edit: it has the possiblity that it could clear* sorry.



Think I'm done diving and digging, I'm set. heavenz and playerboy mafia, anything else, low chance for me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 30 2013 08:42 GMT
#440
On September 30 2013 11:04 Balla24 wrote:
Wait what, why would mafia roleblock an afk? That doesn't make sense...

I think town RB might have blocked blurry. Scum RB heavenz. Don't know yet need to read thread.

Just letting you guys know I am here.
I had a good night of sleep.
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