And I disagree with both. Wonderful.
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
And I disagree with both. Wonderful. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On September 17 2013 22:43 kushm4sta wrote: Maybe he had to GO?? MAybe he was bored with the back and forth? I dont know but there are a million probable townie reasons. No, there is only one possible townie reason. He had a meeting that lasted ~25 minutes and started JUST as Oats asked him about BH. Every other explanation is that he is lying and therefore scum. | ||
kushm4sta
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 17 2013 22:42 kushm4sta wrote: A generalized metagame defense of vayne My qualifications: I've been on a scumteam with vayne before quite recently. Vayne is the kind of player who looks scummier as town than scum. He is superficially scummier as town because he does not give much effort and is not cooperative with tryhard scumhunters. As scum, his posts are much more constructed and it looks like he is trying harder. Why is Vayne scum? I will try to counter any argument you present. Vayne didn't give a fuck about D1 lynch and left his vote on blubbers for reasons never explained. He even called the guy townier than some other dudes at some point on D1. He never gave any reasons for his vote, he never tried to push the lynch. He never tried to push any lynch. After D1 he called people on "his wagon" scummy as fuck or bad. It was not his wagon because he never gave any reasoning for his vote. It doesn't mean shit that he was the first one to vote for blubbers. On D2 he went into shitfest with me & Koshi and has done no scumhunting at all after that. He "correctly identified the scumteam" but had his vote on survivor. No explanation given when asked. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 17 2013 22:52 kushm4sta wrote: VAYNE JUST Because Someone Doens't Give As Much Effort As You, Explain Every ACtion they Take, Or Respond Promply To Your Incessant Lines Of Questioning, That Doesn't Make Them Scum. lol, he hasn't given ANY FUCKS ABOUT FINDING SCUM THIS GAME! Point me one post of his where he is scumhunting after 12h into the game? And no, the early game does not matter because that was dumb argument over nothing. | ||
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
Vayne is just like that!! He isn't reading close or giving a lot of effort atm. | ||
VayneAuthority
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 17 2013 22:54 kushm4sta wrote: What about sn0's afk is scummy? He made his thoughts on BH perfectly clear. UNLIKE grack. UNLIKE pandain. Scum can panic when some info comes up. Otas said "what if i can prove BH is a survivor?". Assume Sno is scum. He knows BH is in fact a Godfather. Sno has said he want's to lynch BH unless he is confirmed survivor. What the hell is Oats doing? What is he after? Does he have a green check on BH? Why is he saying things about proving BH is survivor? How should i respond? "Scum QT help me!!!" | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On September 17 2013 22:55 VayneAuthority wrote: it's cool ill defend myself when the time comes, i know im not scum. I gave reasoning for my blubb vote and I wasn't around for the hours before the lynch or I would have changed my vote if I saw how many scummy people were bandwagoning me. So anything about the whole blubb thing is just a straight up lie. Could you show me your reasoning for blubbb vote because i can't find it from your filter. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On September 17 2013 22:55 VayneAuthority wrote: it's cool ill defend myself when the time comes, i know im not scum. I gave reasoning for my blubb vote and I wasn't around for the hours before the lynch or I would have changed my vote if I saw how many scummy people were bandwagoning me. So anything about the whole blubb thing is just a straight up lie. Here he says that scum was also on blubb. (he means me) On September 17 2013 22:56 VayneAuthority wrote: ive also had to defend myself for the past 2934239492349 hours so its obviously hard to scumhunt but if you read my filter I have been definitely trying to figure out the game. they are just tunneling me hard and ill have my laugh at endgame assuming we lose. Here he says that the guys tunneling him (me) are town and that "we" as both townies(?) will lose the game. VA can't keep his story straight. VA thinks I am scum. VA says that the people tunneling him (me) will lose the game because Vayne & his tunnelers (me) are town. VA IS SCUM! | ||
Koshi
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kushm4sta
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Sn0 was curious aobut Oats claim, WHAT TOWN WOULDN"T BE?? you cant say hes scum for being curious. Especially since it possibly confirmed his belief that bh was a survivor | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 17 2013 23:02 kushm4sta wrote: No...sno just really thought bh was survivor. he made that very clear.. But obviously we had to lynch him. Everyone agreed on that. Sn0 was curious aobut Oats claim, WHAT TOWN WOULDN"T BE?? you cant say hes scum for being curious. Especially since it possibly confirmed his belief that bh was a survivor The immediate response for a townie would be: "Why the fuck would you claim a cop/rolecop and defend a survivor?" That's not what Sno did. | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote: yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them. and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious. I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game On September 13 2013 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote: blubbdavid I would like your opinion on what you think of my analysis, it will tell me a lot of your alignment. Ok so you pick a random person that is pretty much null to everyone in Koshi and decide to push him. ok great. but wait your entire case just consists of his posting is "bad" which isn't really indicative of anything, just your opinion. Also note that koshi plays way worse as town. You then go on to say that me and SnB just look like "butthurt" townies, perhaps trying to somehow gain some cred with us but then you leave us open to suspicion by saying "you will look into us later" wtf? then for good measure you throw in a bad kush quote and say that the posting is trash, well ok we all knew that. illusionary participation. On September 13 2013 04:02 VayneAuthority wrote: I would disagree on WoS, his opening post was solid and real life should never be taken into account when forming scum reads. If you really want to look into it though, he's usually town when he gives these excuses since he probably gets really paranoid or whatever that people will think he's scum. I can't read onegu for shit, so I honestly couldn't care less if he's vigged or whatever. He looks really scummy to me as both alignments in every game so no comment there. Blubb's response to my case was satisfactory so doubt ill be leaving my vote there by the end of this cycle, but he needs to do a lot more then just that. chronological order. I really did want to take my vote off blubb but had something to do at work and I couldn't be around for the time near the lynch. If I'm gonna get lynched for the second time due to real life reasons then so be it. | ||
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