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Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
December 30 2013 05:30 GMT
#661
Oh yeah, the amazing Conch Shell meant to bring order to the chaos that didn't really bring much of any order as people started raging over not getting the Conch Shell :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 30 2013 05:39 GMT
#662
1) Mocsta makes conch shell
2) Someone starts to make sense
3) Mocsta grabs back conch shell
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 30 2013 06:11 GMT
#663
We had funny reasoning for the conch shell being anti town. It prevented people from being super vocal and enabling better general town reads for other townies, which would be bad for us. By having people be forced to be quiet, we could potentially negate towns ability to use that aspect of voice, where things are happening way to fast for mafia to control. Townies can spout good things on the fly that is incredibly difficult to replicate as scum.

Also, it gave (me at least) us time to think of what we were going to say and develop well thought out but made up town reasons. I remember immediately asking for the conch because I knew I could formulate a townie thought process stemming from marv accusing me because he didn't hear me talking at the beginning of the game. Marv then called me bad town which was perfect for me to hide behind my non-town thought process.

Also funny, it was mocsta who brought up the conch, and then found out to be scum, and we stopped using it but didn't bring it up. If we had, I think I could have been able to work up more well-sculpted thoughts if actual townies weren't talking. It mattered alot because it ended up coming down to me and marv for holyflare to decide between, and had a real lack of presence later in the game because I couldn't compete with an actual townie marv actively talking.

Blue hunting is by far the most important skill for mafia in these single power setups where claims are too difficult to counter claim. It is impossible to lynch blues unless you CC, and even then you might die first and its useless. Any threatened scum needs to claim a blue role immediately, because instant majority is awfully unforgiving, and town will just let wagons stay if you are CC'd by the real role that wasn't threatened to be lynched. Claiming med/cop is fairly suicidal because your actions need to be make sense, but you also have to make them up on the fly when you do fakeclaim because voice goes that fast. So it's hard for fakeclaims to be an option, which leaves RB and hit. RB is pretty awkward to use, and doesn't stop the confirmation bonus blues get by being unique. So your hit needs to hit blues and you cannot waste it on people who will lynch you. You need to rely on being good enough to convince them otherwise, and stop the blues from getting out of hand.

I probably should have talked more with IAmP about the echelon shot, but I was already being too quiet at night and that would make me red or blue, and I was not quick enough to bullshit claim the latter. Being optimal at mafia voice is extremely intensive, and it might be better to be random and hope people see you as a bad townie. I'll try to come to a conclusion in that regard as we play more.

Funny how much goes on into little subtleties like that. Good game!
Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 30 2013 06:12 GMT
#664
Memento was great. Diabetes?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 30 2013 07:19 GMT
#665
Lord of the flies

Did people read lord of the flies
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 19:31:56
December 30 2013 19:02 GMT
#666
Hey any people up for games tonight?
Last night was awesome! <3

lol for people thinking i am scum because i wanted BH to claim haha. Then scum proceeded to shoot me on N1. <3

I probably should have talked more with IAmP about the echelon shot, but I was already being too quiet at night and that would make me red or blue, and I was not quick enough to bullshit claim the latter. Being optimal at mafia voice is extremely intensive, and it might be better to be random and hope people see you as a bad townie. I'll try to come to a conclusion in that regard as we play more.

IMO as scum you are supposed to talk a lot. It doesn't really matter with who you talk as things are hard to remember 5min after they have happened (especially if there are many people in the game). Some people have good points as town but don't say pretty much anything as scum. You can even bus hard at certain points if you feel like you can't get your buddy lynched, it looks really good on you later on, in case one of you/the bussee get lynched.

Just talk a lot and wreck all clear thoughts town are developing, that's kinda the main point. Although OMGUSes are pretty common in Voice Mafia and people just YOLO-shoot/lynch people usually the more vocal players live longer.
table for two on a tv tray
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
December 30 2013 21:10 GMT
#667
Get in here!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#668
Damn you guys have been playing so much since I've been able to I get the feeling the 'meta' will have changed and my supremely confident vocal style won't be enough.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 30 2013 21:39 GMT
#669
On December 31 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn you guys have been playing so much since I've been able to I get the feeling the 'meta' will have changed and my supremely confident vocal style won't be enough.

just c'mon and play.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 30 2013 22:26 GMT
#670
guys join us, just a couple of more and we're set!
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 31 2013 03:32 GMT
#671
GAMES ARE ON JOIIIIINNNNNNNNN
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 31 2013 04:07 GMT
#672
xoxo
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 31 2013 04:12 GMT
#673
LIES. I am there right now.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2013 04:18 GMT
#674
we literally just finished
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2013 04:18 GMT
#675
iGrok clearly scum for not taking part
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 31 2013 04:19 GMT
#676
MOTHERFUCKER. EVERY TIME.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2013 04:34 GMT
#677
On December 31 2013 13:19 iGrok wrote:
MOTHERFUCKER. EVERY TIME.

Totally fake rage. Lynch him he's scum. Besides I can see the nipple clamps he has in one hand, he has intent to use them. Only murderers electrocute using nipple clamps. Come on guys. Scum right here.
##vote iGrok
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
December 31 2013 04:46 GMT
#678
##vote iGrok

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 17:22:43
January 01 2014 17:14 GMT
#679
Voice mafia today?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 01 2014 19:32 GMT
#680
I am available
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