I have an abusrdly hard time believng that debears' claim could be fake. It's simply too well prepared and justified with breadcrumbs.

I guess I need to look into Rayn's filter one more time tonight, but I'm inclined to believe that they're both town and that there's an SK afoot.

Hell I really don't even know if Rayn's claim is truthful or not =/

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

August 31 2013 23:52 GMT

#1404

Sorry guys. I am way too wasted to post on anything..
kill debears though.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

August 31 2013 23:52 GMT

#1405

fu hapa, iam vet.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

August 31 2013 23:53 GMT

#1406

And for the doubters, 2 veterans is extremely possible. I've actually played in a newbie game with 2 veterans and a JK.

@ Rayn and Debears - out of curiosity, are there any conditions on your powers as related to the water level? There's something in the OP that talks about some powers being linked to that.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

August 31 2013 23:54 GMT

#1407

On September 01 2013 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fu hapa, iam vet.

You're the vet mason vigi apparently.

And this is the problem with all these fake-claims Rayn. The boy who cries wolf can't be trusted.

sciberbia

United States1359 Posts

August 31 2013 23:58 GMT

#1408

We better not have an SK. SK's suck.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

August 31 2013 23:59 GMT

#1409

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 01 2013 08:44 debears wrote:

Show nested quote +

It's fine. No ones on anyhow. Would be way more epic with everyone here.

Can i get a popcorn observers?

sciberbia

United States1359 Posts

September 01 2013 00:00 GMT

#1410

shit sorry debears just did 3rd party speculation. I take it back.

I dunno I'm with hapa I think they are most likely both town. Not sure whether rayn is lying again or not to try to make a "big play" or something

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 01 2013 00:03 GMT

#1411

On September 01 2013 09:00 sciberbia wrote:
shit sorry debears just did 3rd party speculation. I take it back.

I dunno I'm with hapa I think they are most likely both town. Not sure whether rayn is lying again or not to try to make a "big play" or something

For as tough of a time I'm giving Ryan about the claim, it's probably legit (if Rayn is town). He hasn't been suspicious of debears at all this game, and all his other claims were levied around trying to manipulate the game around his individual reads.

I do need to entertain the possibility of scum-Rayn tonight. And even though scum-Rayn can be somewhat spazztic, I don't know if he could fake these levels.

Also, any town-vigi should claim. If not, we either have a mafia vigi or an SK on our hands.

And if there's an SK, we can confirm it tomorrow night (if two people die) and thereby corroborate both of these claims.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 01 2013 00:48 GMT

#1412

The problem with this game right now is that there's seemingly a core group of active townies (myself, scib, marv, debears, rayn) that are willing to talk and discuss (even if hostile at times), while there exists a group of 7 other people doing jack shit.

Even if I'm somehow wrong about one person in this group of active players, I'd much rather be focusing on the 7 who are doing nothing and are more likely to be mafia.

sciberbia

United States1359 Posts

September 01 2013 01:04 GMT

#1413

@hapa
yea I agree. I just kinda want to ignore this debears/rayn drama for now as they both seem rather townie to me based on their filters and with time this night-action stuff may resolve itself.

Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk?

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 01 2013 01:32 GMT

#1414

On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
@hapa
yea I agree. I just kinda want to ignore this debears/rayn drama for now as they both seem rather townie to me based on their filters and with time this night-action stuff may resolve itself.

Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk?

Maybe come up with a list of questions for people to respond to when they wake up?

Really any progress made today will be on the backs of players who aren't posting right now >>

Tutankoopa

United States145 Posts

September 01 2013 02:01 GMT

#1415

On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk?

onegu

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 01 2013 02:09 GMT

#1416

On September 01 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:

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onegu

TK, what are your thoughts on the claims by Debears and Rayn?

As for Onegu, I really don't understand your case against him. Onegu apparently thought FT was scum, and his explanation about it (having played a ton of games with a visibly different town FT) makes sense. What precludes Onegu from finding multiple players suspicious and voting his top scumread (FT)?