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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 01 2013 05:10 GMT
#1421
But am I reading correct debears was RB and shot?
Try TL Mafia!!!
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
September 01 2013 05:11 GMT
#1422
On September 01 2013 14:10 Onegu wrote:
But am I reading correct debears was RB and shot?


Yes debears is claiming RB and shot and rayn is claiming shot.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 01 2013 05:14 GMT
#1423
so the real question here is why didnt marv and hapa get targeted in any way?

Like rayn is 4-5th choice nk.
And debears is like 3-4th

I think scib is scum man. He hasnt given any good reasons why Im scum and he hasnt voted for me yet.
OMGUS SCIB.


No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
September 01 2013 05:25 GMT
#1424
On September 01 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
so the real question here is why didnt marv and hapa get targeted in any way?

Like rayn is 4-5th choice nk.
And debears is like 3-4th


@Oats
yea I'm a little surprised too but there are a million possible explanations and we have practically no chance of guessing the correct one so it's best not to dwell on it too much.

Can you answer to the point debears brought up regarding your read on Sylencia?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 01 2013 06:00 GMT
#1425
Why I didnt talk about Syl at all?
Cause I didnt read his filter and all that before rayn asked me.
It never crossed my mind that Syl was gonna be lynched today and yeah.

No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
September 01 2013 06:12 GMT
#1426
Few more questions for you Oats.


This bothers me everytime I read your filter. I just don't understand the town motivation behind peppering one of your townreads (rayn) with questions and criticisms and asking marv if he wants to lynch said townread.
+ Show Spoiler [Oats] +

On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.

Marv wanna lynch Rayn?

On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post.

nah.

On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post.

nah.


By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ?

shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1?

By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum.

On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.




Can you explain in more detail how TK went from strong scum read to strong town read over the course of 24 hours? Since your return to the thread yesterday, you have acted as though TK is hella town, but I really don't see why you would think that, especially considering you had a strong scumread on him at the start of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [TK is scum] +

On August 29 2013 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is tutonkeonddude town marv? He sheeped some dudes policy vote and asked 'what policy'. Shows that he gives no fucks about who he wants to die.

On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning

anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either

DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER????


what the fuck is wrong with you?

He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum.
Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town.

On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that?
Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things?
Thats kinda why I think he's scum.

Marv, tell me whos scum man.



+ Show Spoiler [TK is the towniest thing under the sun] +

On August 30 2013 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
So if I can prove that Tutan is town, is hopeless still town rayn?

On August 31 2013 06:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn im not killing TK unless redcheck and I need to think REALLY hard for that one.

On August 31 2013 06:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, you are too tunneled to be useful at this point. Every read is influenced by your TK read.

On August 31 2013 20:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's look at how I reentered the thread. I dropped tutan and voted for Hopeless. Would you rather I continue tunneling obv town?



Like I just find this really fishy and don't know what you could have possibly seen from TK to make you backflip so hard. I think you were just being lazy scum and remembered marv 'insisting he was totally town' from earlier in the day, and decided to say you changed your mind and that marv was right.

And while I'm on the subject, wtf is the point of saying this
On August 31 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey tutan is rayn scum for tunneling you like shit?


if tutan is obv town to you and rayn is also obv town from your POV (unless you think he fakeclaimed mason as scum to stop you from getting mislynched). I just see no town motivation at all for asking such a question to one of your strongest town reads about one of your other strongest town reads.


Finally, you said this
On August 31 2013 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
How the fuck did I get almost lynched....
come on guys..


I don't understand why you're so surprised. What do you feel you have done this game that makes you so clearly town or a bad lynch option? What have you done or said this game that you would not have done if you were scum?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 01 2013 06:21 GMT
#1427
1. Do you never criticize bad play Scib? Cause thats what I was doing. Asking someone if they want to lynch a dude is just that. No other implied meaning.

2. There were like 20 pages and TK doubled his filter I think. I also detunneled cause I got out of the thread and took into account what marv said about TK and his contributions since I left. Its good.

3. Again its a question. THATS ALL. I didnt think tutan was scum, I didnt think Rayn was scum. I could be wrong and asking stuff like this helps. More info = better game.

4. I have been contributing and shit. Come on Scib. Im like a day 3-4 lynch, not day 1. Especially since there was no fucking case on me with ANYTHING showing how I was scum rather than how I was DIFFERENT from my normal retarded play which Im trying not to do. I wouldve totally like pushed the lurkers as scum and also like probably wouldnt have 180ed on Tuten.
No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
September 01 2013 06:43 GMT
#1428
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 01 2013 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
1. Do you never criticize bad play Scib? Cause thats what I was doing. Asking someone if they want to lynch a dude is just that. No other implied meaning.

2. There were like 20 pages and TK doubled his filter I think. I also detunneled cause I got out of the thread and took into account what marv said about TK and his contributions since I left. Its good.

3. Again its a question. THATS ALL. I didnt think tutan was scum, I didnt think Rayn was scum. I could be wrong and asking stuff like this helps. More info = better game.

4. I have been contributing and shit. Come on Scib. Im like a day 3-4 lynch, not day 1. Especially since there was no fucking case on me with ANYTHING showing how I was scum rather than how I was DIFFERENT from my normal retarded play which Im trying not to do. I wouldve totally like pushed the lurkers as scum and also like probably wouldnt have 180ed on Tuten.



@Oats
1) There doesn't have to be some implied meaning but there has got to be some motivation for doing it, right? You don't just throw a dart at the wall to decide what to post do you? The only possible town motivations I can see would be fishing for some specific response from marv, or trying to actually get rayn lynched. You're telling me you weren't doing either of those two things?

2) I can understand if maybe you changed your mind on the scum read part. But what specifically makes him "obv town" to you? From what I can tell nobody else in this game is in your "obv town" category. Can you list your top 4 townreads for me right now?

3) It's just odd to me that of all the questions you could ask anyone at the time, you chose to ask a very strong townread for thoughts on another very strong townread. I don't think it's just me. Most townies would not do that.

4) Not that this point is very important, but your two candidates around lynch-time yesterday were Slam and FT (aka the lurkers), no?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 01 2013 06:47 GMT
#1429
No, I want rayn to change his mind and hunt scum properly.

2) Marv/Tuten/debears/Rayn
off the top of my head

3) Uh ok sure that totally makes me scum,........

4) Hopeless wasnt a lurker. I thought FT's miminal posting made him scum.
And your point is?
No gg, No skill.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
September 01 2013 07:04 GMT
#1430
@Oats
Can you please point to SPECIFIC things that makes you think TK is obviously town. Please use relevant quotes from marv's filter or TK's filter as appropriate.

If you want me to believe that you genuinely changed your mind, please walk me through your exact, SPECIFIC thought process. Don't just say something like "yea I changed my mind" or "TK doubled his filter" or "marv said TK is town". Any scum could say that and if you actually changed your mind it shouldn't be too hard for you to point out some specific posts of TK that demonstrate why he is very clearly town to you.


Also I'd like to see you put more effort into pushing your lynch today. Who's your strongest scumread right now? If it's me so be it, but write a case that consists of more than "scib has no thread impact" and "scib tried to lynch me but I'm town". Like if you want to say that fine but expand on it more and explain why it makes me scum. You actually want to convince people, yes? Even as scum in Ego Mini you had more thread impact and more impressive cases than you've written this game.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
September 01 2013 07:22 GMT
#1431
I'm going to bed. I'd like some outside opinions on my recent conversation with Oats, especially from people who have played with him as town before.

I find his answers somewhat unsatisfactory but I'm not sure whether Oats would give me answers that I would consider unsatisfactory regardless of his alignment. If that made any sense.

So yea opinions on Oats would be appreciated.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:01 GMT
#1432
On September 01 2013 07:11 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Alakaslam

I'd like your comments on the Day 1 vote.

Your vote (or rather Hopeless's vote) was on TK. Why did you never attempt to change it? You were posting a lot near the end of the deadline, but I really didn't sense any effort on your part to consolidate.

I quoted my reason at ONEGU and used it as a case against him.

As an aside my phone is stubborn capitalizing that. Sorry on egg you.

Anyway basically tofu's filter was so short I didn't see how anyone could say he was scummy. He was just afk, it was a classic "oh hey he's gone lets lunch him" situation.

That's all. Koopa didn't look great bit I had little time to do anything and Ryan was on a roll from my perspective.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:08 GMT
#1433
On September 01 2013 07:44 marvellosity wrote:
her?

jeez.

Lol

I see UK and I immediately go "not guessing or mentioning gender if I can remember"- when you folk come here and use slang you had better hope you aren't androgynous or you are female and that's that.

Yeah catching up.

Indeed, still, for all I know you are indeed female.

Not to rile you or anything.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:11 GMT
#1434
On September 01 2013 08:06 debears wrote:
Btw I'm proud to be an american, where at least I know I'm free!
And I won't forget the men who died who gave that life to me.

And it is why you thought marv was a woman
(Marv may indeed be a woman)
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:13 GMT
#1435
On September 01 2013 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, debears is mafia.

##Unvote;
##Vote: debears

Raynepelikoneet you go from bamcis to WTF faster than I go from troll to trying.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:17 GMT
#1436
On September 01 2013 08:31 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also scum have no roleblocker. Period. :D


Breadcrumb you lying sob. And that has nothing to do with the fact you claimed vet and being shot after lying about being a mason.

I HIGHLY doubt there are two veterans and a vig (oh i guess a sk might be possible)

Excuse me.

Raynepelikoneet is the Mew.

Being the ultimate Pokémon, he can do everything.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:22 GMT
#1437
On September 01 2013 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 01 2013 08:44 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:39 debears wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
I'm LALing any future games.


At least this game just got a whole lot more interesting and fun for me :D


yeah, i wanted to go to bed half an hour ago :/

might have to leave thinking about this until tomorrow tbh


It's fine. No ones on anyhow. Would be way more epic with everyone here.

Can i get a popcorn observers?




YOU! YOU!! WAHAPPEN YUU!!
Actually none of my business but I see siege tank, post game are you vet and I call you noob? I am sorry if yes

If so who is the real noob? I forget

Of course I am kinda one but whatever.

Yes, I cannot be genuine a scum, I sux at lying.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 01 2013 08:23 GMT
#1438
On September 01 2013 16:04 sciberbia wrote:
@Oats
Can you please point to SPECIFIC things that makes you think TK is obviously town. Please use relevant quotes from marv's filter or TK's filter as appropriate.

If you want me to believe that you genuinely changed your mind, please walk me through your exact, SPECIFIC thought process. Don't just say something like "yea I changed my mind" or "TK doubled his filter" or "marv said TK is town". Any scum could say that and if you actually changed your mind it shouldn't be too hard for you to point out some specific posts of TK that demonstrate why he is very clearly town to you.


Also I'd like to see you put more effort into pushing your lynch today. Who's your strongest scumread right now? If it's me so be it, but write a case that consists of more than "scib has no thread impact" and "scib tried to lynch me but I'm town". Like if you want to say that fine but expand on it more and explain why it makes me scum. You actually want to convince people, yes? Even as scum in Ego Mini you had more thread impact and more impressive cases than you've written this game.

no im not gonna waste my time justifying a TOWN read to you.

I wanna lynch Slam today because hes been trolling the thread and not doing ANYTHING REMOTELY useful LIKE FINDING SCUM.
=
Im not gonna quote post by post analysing it cause its boring and it doesnt convince anyone anyway.
##vote alakslam

No gg, No skill.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:23 GMT
#1439
On September 01 2013 09:48 Hapahauli wrote:
The problem with this game right now is that there's seemingly a core group of active townies (myself, scib, marv, debears, rayn) that are willing to talk and discuss (even if hostile at times), while there exists a group of 7 other people doing jack shit.

Even if I'm somehow wrong about one person in this group of active players, I'd much rather be focusing on the 7 who are doing nothing and are more likely to be mafia.

Well hi, I will try to do stuff now.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 01 2013 08:24 GMT
#1440
On September 01 2013 17:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 16:04 sciberbia wrote:
@Oats
Can you please point to SPECIFIC things that makes you think TK is obviously town. Please use relevant quotes from marv's filter or TK's filter as appropriate.

If you want me to believe that you genuinely changed your mind, please walk me through your exact, SPECIFIC thought process. Don't just say something like "yea I changed my mind" or "TK doubled his filter" or "marv said TK is town". Any scum could say that and if you actually changed your mind it shouldn't be too hard for you to point out some specific posts of TK that demonstrate why he is very clearly town to you.


Also I'd like to see you put more effort into pushing your lynch today. Who's your strongest scumread right now? If it's me so be it, but write a case that consists of more than "scib has no thread impact" and "scib tried to lynch me but I'm town". Like if you want to say that fine but expand on it more and explain why it makes me scum. You actually want to convince people, yes? Even as scum in Ego Mini you had more thread impact and more impressive cases than you've written this game.

no im not gonna waste my time justifying a TOWN read to you.

I wanna lynch Slam today because hes been trolling the thread and not doing ANYTHING REMOTELY useful LIKE FINDING SCUM.
=
Im not gonna quote post by post analysing it cause its boring and it doesnt convince anyone anyway.
##vote alakslam


Hello to you too
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