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On September 03 2013 19:59 marvellosity wrote: Tutan is thrawn? I didn't see that one coming.
Kinda sad I know who it is, because now I can't help attaching overall opinions of thrawn to his posts. I would say his posts are much higher quality than I expected (compliment, not an insult) and I'd be pretty surprised if thrawn is mafia. What do you think of Slam/Sn0 as scumbuddies?
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On September 03 2013 20:04 marvellosity wrote: Onegu's post looks really good to me, and tbh Sn0 has been sliding under my radar ever since I semi-wrote him off on Day 1 sometime. I'll check on Sn0's filter myself later to see if I get the same feels as you and Onegu.
This game has been unusually hard to draw any activity tells from, so we'll see. Who else could realistically be mafia?
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I also struggle to see anyone but Hapa fitting in as #3, but I'm obviously biased on that.
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Thrawn, what do you think of a Hapa/Slam/Sn0 scumteam?
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On September 03 2013 22:16 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 22:10 yamato77 wrote: Thrawn, what do you think of a Hapa/Slam/Sn0 scumteam? I buy a slam/sn0 team but hapa? Why not marv? hapa pretty townie during last bits of D2 imo sn0 is probably the one i'm most "confident" about. i gave him a pass for a dumb 3 word phrase and have yet to even think about his existence in this game until just now I guess it's possible Marv is mafia, but we could talk about Hapa.
What about him makes you feel that he's town?
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I skimmed your filter again, and I note a surprising lack of doing anything useful at all.
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On September 03 2013 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote: If thats your take on it. I got roundly ignored so I basically just read the thread and posted the occasional insight. I got quoted as a reason for a vote change so there was something there but I'll admit that person was hapa so you'll probably come up with some theory that has him as my scumbuddy.
On another topic, what does Koopa being thrawn mean to people? I already talked about thrawn. He's not mafia.
By "post the occasional insight", you mean quite literally that you posted around four pages of 1-3 line comments on what was happening in the thread, largely devoid if any real analysis or substance.
Why are you concerned, or even aware of how you look in relation to Hapa as it pertains to associations between possible mafia?
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On September 04 2013 00:11 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 00:05 yamato77 wrote: Why are you concerned, or even aware of how you look in relation to Hapa as it pertains to associations between possible mafia? ? Stop misconstruing me please. I was merely pointing out that certain members of the thread put a lot less stock in anything hapa says than other members of the thread. No, you said Hapa quoted you as a reason for a vote change, and that might give me reason to think you are scumbuddies.
It shows both an awareness of Hapa's play (more than even me, the guy who has read his filter four times by now), and a preoccupation with how others might view interactions within the thread between yourself and Hapa. So I ask again, what other reality than you are mafia with Hapa adequately explains this combination of paranoia?
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On September 04 2013 01:03 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 00:11 Sn0_Man wrote:On September 04 2013 00:05 yamato77 wrote: Why are you concerned, or even aware of how you look in relation to Hapa as it pertains to associations between possible mafia? ? Stop misconstruing me please. I was merely pointing out that certain members of the thread put a lot less stock in anything hapa says than other members of the thread. That is quite obviously not what you said.
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So I have some more time to reconsider, hm.
Going to mulligan everything. Consider all of my posts before this one completely meaningless.
I will carry this. I'm the best positioned to do so.
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On September 04 2013 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 12:26 yamato77 wrote: So I have some more time to reconsider, hm.
Going to mulligan everything. Consider all of my posts before this one completely meaningless.
I will carry this. I'm the best positioned to do so. How quickly can you mulligan? We have 48 hours. Gotta move quick. I'm going to do it tonight. I have time.
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On August 22 2013 06:29 Dandel Ion wrote:Setup Q&A - Scum factional KP is 1.
- All players, regardless of role, are notified of roleblocks.
- Only passively protected roles receive a hit notification.
- Scum chooses a member to carry out the night hit. If they so choose, a member can kill and use a role in the same night. If the mafia member carrying out the night kill is roleblocked, no kill will take place. If he carried out the NK AND used a role both will be stopped with a roleblock.
- Passive abilities are NOT roleblockable.
- Passive roles may be self-aware, or they may not be.
- Fakeclaims will be provided, but I won't comment on how safe or unsafe they are.
On September 04 2013 07:58 Hapahauli wrote: Since we're approaching LYLO, claiming seems like the best option. A mass-claim is probably a good idea right now.
I'm the Conditional Doctor. I can only use my power when the "water level" is over 750, and a successful save reduces the water level by 50.
No breadcrumbs, nor do I ever use them as town.
Saving debears, and hopefully a successful save and a drop in water-level will vindicate my claim to those suspicious of me.
Wish me luck!
On September 04 2013 08:21 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:On September 04 2013 07:58 Hapahauli wrote: Since we're approaching LYLO, claiming seems like the best option. A mass-claim is probably a good idea right now.
I'm the Conditional Doctor. I can only use my power when the "water level" is over 750, and a successful save reduces the water level by 50.
No breadcrumbs, nor do I ever use them as town.
Saving debears, and hopefully a successful save and a drop in water-level will vindicate my claim to those suspicious of me.
Wish me luck! What happened to the 50 water level drop? Is that only for saves from mafia kp? Host gave me some vague answer, saying that "any blocked KP would result in -50 water level"
On September 04 2013 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 04 2013 08:21 Hapahauli wrote:On September 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:On September 04 2013 07:58 Hapahauli wrote: Since we're approaching LYLO, claiming seems like the best option. A mass-claim is probably a good idea right now.
I'm the Conditional Doctor. I can only use my power when the "water level" is over 750, and a successful save reduces the water level by 50.
No breadcrumbs, nor do I ever use them as town.
Saving debears, and hopefully a successful save and a drop in water-level will vindicate my claim to those suspicious of me.
Wish me luck! What happened to the 50 water level drop? Is that only for saves from mafia kp? Host gave me some vague answer, saying that "any blocked KP would result in -50 water level" So you "don't know" what your save doe to water level, yet you include it in your claim! SEEMS LEGIT BRO! What are you even talking about? I do know what it does with mafia KP. I.e if I block mafia KP, the water level goes down 50. I have no fucking clue what it does to 3rd party self-damaging shit
Upon close examination of the OP, the role PM of debears and the claim from Hapa, this is certainly noteworthy. It doesn't mean he's mafia, but I will not consider him confirmed town in my reread of the game, as he might wish for us to do today. There very well could be a mafia doctor in this strange setup.
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On September 05 2013 01:14 Sn0_Man wrote: A mafia doctor that makes the water level go *down*? or how else are you explaining the water level netting -100 last night after debears's action AND there being a "successful" NK?
Yeah ur full of it. How do you know how much an NK affects the water level, if at all? The OP says it does, but does that mean EVERY NK does?
I find it disturbing that you blindly trust claims in a closed setup.
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It's possible that this is a valid explanation, however. Still, one can never be too cautious. We lose on a mislynch.
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On September 05 2013 01:20 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote: It's possible that this is a valid explanation, however. Still, one can never be too cautious. We lose on a mislynch. Sure but trying to expand our lynch options to obvious town hapa is not "being cautious" its increasing our chances of a mislynch aka losing on the spot. The whole point of a mulligan is to start the game completely fresh, without necessarily considering your preconceived notions of how people have played the game so far.
First, I try to figure out as much about the setup as I can, then I try to look at voting. If either of those fail to produce leads as to possible mafia, then I rely on carefully combing the thread for scumtells and the like. It's worked in the past. It will work this game.
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On September 05 2013 01:35 Sn0_Man wrote:I can wait, but so far your "mulligan" feels a lot more like: Well of my 3 man "scum-team" (aka mislynch-roster), 2 have proven themselves or flipped town. I really need an excuse to 180 on everything so... "Mulligan" time. It is true, town in the same situation does the same thing, but I really don't see town starting off with some BS about hapa not being confirmed town  . Voting far less informative this game than I had hoped since Day 1 was fairly "runaway" with 8 votes to 3, and day 2 was a "close race" between 2 townies. However, if you can spot anything really useful I'd love to hear it. I do somewhat feel like Syl and Thrawn look a bit bad from day 1 voting, but nothing too conclusive. I look deeper than just the votecounts. A really effective tactic is to scan through someone's filter looking at votes and unvotes, and read why they voted or unvoted.
I already have a sneaking suspicion about one player just based off this.
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On September 05 2013 01:50 Sn0_Man wrote: I hope it's marv Actually it's Rayn
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On September 05 2013 01:59 Sn0_Man wrote: Oooo. Hows it compare/contrast to last game where the only scummer he ever had his vote on (as a townie) was you?
Either way, looking forward to this expose of yours. I'm building notes right now on all of you before I do anything like make a post.
I'm going to be sure of my suspicions before I do anything else.
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The rest of these aren't as conclusive as I would like, to be honest.
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On September 05 2013 01:50 Sn0_Man wrote: I hope it's marv Marv does look really bad, too
Like holy fuck his votes are shit
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