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Alrighty imma take a quick shower (really need a break) and then figure out where we should go here.
Between what Onegu said to me last night, and the thing hapa said about the replacement today, I don't feel so great about a hopeless lynch.
FT is on the scummy side of null for not doing jack shit all game and making our lives difficult, but I don't think there's enough in his filter to make a lynch on him a smart option today.
I think I want to go with either a sylencia lynch or an oats lynch. I still need to look more into oats. brb.
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@hapa Why do you not want to lynch oats? He's my strongest scum read right now.
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I still think Sylencia's a meh lynch. Like I'd be OK with it, but the only really solid reason I see for lynching sylencia is dropping his vote on onegu and leaving without commenting on the hopeless wagon.
I feel I have more and better reasons to think Oats is scum. Gonna reread both of their filters a couple times and I'll decide if I want to start an Oats wagon.
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On August 31 2013 06:59 Hapahauli wrote: Sciberia - lend me your wisdom/calmness a bit. Is Oats still your strongest read? @hapa yea so I was just making another post on him and I think that's the direction I want to go.
Here is my summary of his first day of posting, which was scummy. + Show Spoiler [me] +On August 30 2013 14:26 sciberbia wrote:What do you guys think of Oats? Maybe it's partly because he did the vast majority of his posting while I was sleeping, but he seems very 'under the radar' to me. I have no good reasons to think he's town, and a few parts of his filter make me raise my eyebrows: -- insistence that TK is scum based solely on his opening rayn vote and posting some wishy wash reads. This just seems like a very easy case for Oats to make and could be easily fabricated. I don't see any spark of analytical insight, which I think I'm correct in expecting from a town Oats. + Show Spoiler [oats insisting] +On August 29 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote: tutankoopa scum ## vote tuntankoopa On August 29 2013 08:38 Oatsmaster wrote: not gonna post for the next 10+ hours, have fun guys.
lynch tuntokoppa dude. On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote: He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning
anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER???? what the fuck is wrong with you? He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum. Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town. On August 29 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote: Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. Like this post just wiggles all around the place and he takes no hard stances throughtout the game so far. On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that? Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things? Thats kinda why I think he's scum. -- speaking of easy criticisms, he repeatedly criticizes rayn, which would be fine if he ever went somewhere with it, but he doesn't, and in fact outright says he doesn't think rayn is scum, so why all the criticisms? To try to make rayn look bad? Why? + Show Spoiler [criticisms] +On August 29 2013 08:29 Oatsmaster wrote: you voted for him after his single post. What the fuck rayn. On August 29 2013 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no fucking idea why you would vote for someone then 5 minutes later say that they are town. NO CLUE. Also that post doesnt make him scum or town. Remember Titanic? On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.
Marv wanna lynch Rayn? On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine. On August 29 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine. Could you be more specific because i really do not understand? Picking a day 1 lynch by process of elimination is horrible. On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post. nah. By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ? shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1? By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum. On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote: hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.
I will be very interested to see where he goes next since it seems he has been sleeping/busy since this game really got rolling, but for now he is another one I'm leaning scum on.
Notice how at the bottom I conclude that he's been scummy so far, but in fairness I point out that he hasn't had too many chances to contribute yet. Well what has he done today? Nothing at all.
His re-entrance to the thread was very suspicious to me and I agree with what you and marv wrote about it. He just completely back-flipped on all his previous reads to conform with thread sentiment.
He has also had the chance to contribute towards this lynch but has completely refrained from doing so. I honestly don't know what he has been doing since he first disappeared from the thread like 30 hours ago. At least Sylencia is genuinely sleeping right now.
I'd like to add that all of his posts seem completely unconstructive to me. That is the vibe I get from him. It's like he is just sitting around in the thread, debunking other people's ideas when he sees an opportunity, without making any sustained push of his own. He has also spent an inordinate amount of time criticizing other players, especially rayn, which strikes me as scum motivated.
I don't know why I'm not getting more support for an Oats lynch but I hope that changes. I think I'd actually be surprised to see Oats flip town which I can't say about anyone else right now.
##Vote: Oatsmaster
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On August 31 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote: scib, what are you seeing from Slam that you liked?
I'm shying away from a Slam lynch for a variety of reasons all of which I'm not sure how much stock I should put into. I have a terrible history with replacements and I don't really know how to deal with them.
-- I somewhat agree with what hapa said about hopeless replacing out meaning he is more likely town demoralized than scum. I'm pretty sure I've seen this happen before. Maybe it's a combination of being demoralized and not having enough time on his hands. I don't know. But townies are more likely to feel bad like they owe their team something and ask for a replacement imo where as scum he might have just been like shit im caught and faced his lynch.
-- His claiming VT made me think more townie of him. I've seen numerous townies do that before in that situation, and I don't think it's something scum slam would necessarily think to do.
-- He is apparently absurdly busy and I don't really mind his not contributing as much as you do. I'm sure it's hella hard to catch up on 40 pages and make intelligent posts as the deadline is winding down.
-- For all I know,, Slam could be a very easy to read player and I will get a strong town read from him tomorrow if we just give him time.
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Unfortunatley I have to go. Will be following from phone but won't be able to make sizeable posts. Final thoughts.
Oats - most likely to be scum. Slam - yea might be scum and would be nice to get rid of a replacement i guess but I'm shying away for reasons above Tofu - standard lurker lynch imo. acceptable but not ideal sylencia - meh lynch. might be scum. wouldn't be all too surprised if he's town though.
gtg will still be following from phone
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marv i read your posts to hapa but they didnt change my mind. I thonk town would be more likely to replace out in that situation than scum. I could very well be wrong but im counting it as a small point in his favor.
I dont see why oats isnt anywhere on t Your radar of people to lynch. From what i can tell you have been thinking scum on him
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I don't know Marv but I've seen a lot of oats and it all looks like scum. that's the difference
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I don't have a town read on hopeless. Marv just asked what I've seen since Alan that made me not want to lynch him. I admittheyre not the most 'by the book' reasons but that's why
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A firm lynch could be OK Marv but I just have trouble reading people who literally do not post whereas I think there's a good chance oats is scum
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Well fuck.
##unvote ##vote FirmTofu
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OK so all in all we had a bunch of imo pretty good discussion and ended up lynching a vanilla town lurker. Not a terrible D1.
I guess we may have outed our mason pair but of all the roles to out mason is a pretty harmless one.
And I really don't know about this mason stuff at all.
I mean it's one thing to have a little interplay with your mason partner in the thread so as to throw the scumteam off, but posts like these seem to be taking it a bit far. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2013 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats can you clarify to me why exactly are you suspicious of Tutankoopa? Has his policy vote something to do with it and if it does, what? On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post. On August 29 2013 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no fucking idea why you would vote for someone then 5 minutes later say that they are town. NO CLUE. Also that post doesnt make him scum or town. Remember Titanic? On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.
Marv wanna lynch Rayn? On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote: hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it. On August 31 2013 06:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I sheep you like every fucking game rayn. Dont beg, its unbecoming.
I really kinda want rayn to be lying so Oats can still be scum and I can still be right about him.
@Oats Please do confirm whether or not you are masoned with rayn and will one of you please produce some logs?
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or on second thought maybe it cant hurt to wait till the daypost if there are actually any logs.
god night-time is no fun
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I don't know why I'm not mad right now lol. Just can't believe rayn actually changed the lynch by claiming mason.
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@Oats sorry i don't feel like writing any serious posts right now. See my filter. I will probably end up revisiting you if I'm still alive tomorrow.
Actually OK I will at least do the work of finding the relevant posts for you + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2013 14:26 sciberbia wrote:What do you guys think of Oats? Maybe it's partly because he did the vast majority of his posting while I was sleeping, but he seems very 'under the radar' to me. I have no good reasons to think he's town, and a few parts of his filter make me raise my eyebrows: -- insistence that TK is scum based solely on his opening rayn vote and posting some wishy wash reads. This just seems like a very easy case for Oats to make and could be easily fabricated. I don't see any spark of analytical insight, which I think I'm correct in expecting from a town Oats. + Show Spoiler [oats insisting] +On August 29 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote: tutankoopa scum ## vote tuntankoopa On August 29 2013 08:38 Oatsmaster wrote: not gonna post for the next 10+ hours, have fun guys.
lynch tuntokoppa dude. On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote: He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning
anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER???? what the fuck is wrong with you? He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum. Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town. On August 29 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote: Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. Like this post just wiggles all around the place and he takes no hard stances throughtout the game so far. On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that? Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things? Thats kinda why I think he's scum. -- speaking of easy criticisms, he repeatedly criticizes rayn, which would be fine if he ever went somewhere with it, but he doesn't, and in fact outright says he doesn't think rayn is scum, so why all the criticisms? To try to make rayn look bad? Why? + Show Spoiler [criticisms] +On August 29 2013 08:29 Oatsmaster wrote: you voted for him after his single post. What the fuck rayn. On August 29 2013 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no fucking idea why you would vote for someone then 5 minutes later say that they are town. NO CLUE. Also that post doesnt make him scum or town. Remember Titanic? On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.
Marv wanna lynch Rayn? On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine. On August 29 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine. Could you be more specific because i really do not understand? Picking a day 1 lynch by process of elimination is horrible. On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post. nah. By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ? shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1? By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum. On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote: hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.
I will be very interested to see where he goes next since it seems he has been sleeping/busy since this game really got rolling, but for now he is another one I'm leaning scum on. On August 31 2013 07:06 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:59 Hapahauli wrote: Sciberia - lend me your wisdom/calmness a bit. Is Oats still your strongest read? @hapa yea so I was just making another post on him and I think that's the direction I want to go. Here is my summary of his first day of posting, which was scummy. + Show Spoiler [me] +On August 30 2013 14:26 sciberbia wrote:What do you guys think of Oats? Maybe it's partly because he did the vast majority of his posting while I was sleeping, but he seems very 'under the radar' to me. I have no good reasons to think he's town, and a few parts of his filter make me raise my eyebrows: -- insistence that TK is scum based solely on his opening rayn vote and posting some wishy wash reads. This just seems like a very easy case for Oats to make and could be easily fabricated. I don't see any spark of analytical insight, which I think I'm correct in expecting from a town Oats. + Show Spoiler [oats insisting] +On August 29 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote: tutankoopa scum ## vote tuntankoopa On August 29 2013 08:38 Oatsmaster wrote: not gonna post for the next 10+ hours, have fun guys.
lynch tuntokoppa dude. On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote: He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning
anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER???? what the fuck is wrong with you? He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum. Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town. On August 29 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote: Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. Like this post just wiggles all around the place and he takes no hard stances throughtout the game so far. On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that? Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things? Thats kinda why I think he's scum. -- speaking of easy criticisms, he repeatedly criticizes rayn, which would be fine if he ever went somewhere with it, but he doesn't, and in fact outright says he doesn't think rayn is scum, so why all the criticisms? To try to make rayn look bad? Why? + Show Spoiler [criticisms] +On August 29 2013 08:29 Oatsmaster wrote: you voted for him after his single post. What the fuck rayn. On August 29 2013 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no fucking idea why you would vote for someone then 5 minutes later say that they are town. NO CLUE. Also that post doesnt make him scum or town. Remember Titanic? On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.
Marv wanna lynch Rayn? On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine. On August 29 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 21:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the attitude rayn. you dont understand, its fine. Could you be more specific because i really do not understand? Picking a day 1 lynch by process of elimination is horrible. On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post. nah. By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ? shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1? By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum. On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote: hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.
I will be very interested to see where he goes next since it seems he has been sleeping/busy since this game really got rolling, but for now he is another one I'm leaning scum on. Notice how at the bottom I conclude that he's been scummy so far, but in fairness I point out that he hasn't had too many chances to contribute yet. Well what has he done today? Nothing at all. His re-entrance to the thread was very suspicious to me and I agree with what you and marv wrote about it. He just completely back-flipped on all his previous reads to conform with thread sentiment. He has also had the chance to contribute towards this lynch but has completely refrained from doing so. I honestly don't know what he has been doing since he first disappeared from the thread like 30 hours ago. At least Sylencia is genuinely sleeping right now. I'd like to add that all of his posts seem completely unconstructive to me. That is the vibe I get from him. It's like he is just sitting around in the thread, debunking other people's ideas when he sees an opportunity, without making any sustained push of his own. He has also spent an inordinate amount of time criticizing other players, especially rayn, which strikes me as scum motivated. I don't know why I'm not getting more support for an Oats lynch but I hope that changes. I think I'd actually be surprised to see Oats flip town which I can't say about anyone else right now. ##Vote: Oatsmaster
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@Oats Btw if you're town I'd rather you spend your time bringing some original analysis to the thread than breaking down my posts and defending yourself or whatever.
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Reread some filters and just want to have my most current reads out there in case I am shot.
townie as fuck --- scib, rayn, hapa probably town --- debears. marv thinking town ---- onegu leaning town ----- tk, sn0 hard to say -------- syl, slam, yamato scummy ------------ oats
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debears claimed a roleblock which doesn't necessarily mean he was shot.
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