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On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there. debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak.
Sylencia at the time you wrote this post what was yamato's read on marv in your opinion and why?
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marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm?
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On August 29 2013 20:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm? I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think. TBD
I am pretty sure Oats is town. He is clearly not paying attention closely, that's why he forgets stuff. Given the players in this game (unless like you and Hapa are scum with him) i would expect him to be far more calreful with what he posts if he was mafia. Also him attacking you and Hapa (the strongest players) and not letting go of his arguments when "proven wrong" (or rather when pointed out the holes in his logic) is a strong towntell imo.
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On August 29 2013 20:48 marvellosity wrote:
yamato seems ok. Dumb is usually ok from yamato
There is one thing i do not get about yamato. His policy at the start of the game was clearly "do not shit the thread rayn". After that, when i ask him stuff he gives answers that are not really answers -> he should know that might make me go crazy. What's the point of not wanting me to shit the thread and then feeding my craziness?
On the other hand, if yamato is scum i feel really bad for him because he would be scum in 4 games in a row. So i propose we let yamato survive the game, so he feels better either way. :D j/k.
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On August 29 2013 20:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm? I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think. TBD I am pretty sure Oats is town. He is clearly not paying attention closely, that's why he forgets stuff. Given the players in this game (unless like you and Hapa are scum with him) i would expect him to be far more calreful with what he posts if he was mafia. Also him attacking you and Hapa (the strongest players) and not letting go of his arguments when "proven wrong" (or rather when pointed out the holes in his logic) is a strong towntell imo. I used to think this, but some game a while ago proved that wrong. Can't remember which though :/ Maybe you have a better metaread on him than I do, the way I usually try to tell is how involved he manages to stay. Pretty sure he can consistently push bad ideas as mafia too.
Yeah i am not sure about Oats. I mean not convinced to say "Oats is town".
There is a difference of him pushing targets as mafia or as town. I am pretty sure i can notice which this is when the game goes on. Anyways i think he is likely to be town atm.
I assume you think Hapa is town? How easy is it for you to tell if he is town or not?
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Do you remember how sure of Hapa were you at the end of D1 in Catch 22?
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Yeah that was on N1 when you had lynched DP the godfather. 
Anyways it was just a question, i was able to throw you off on Hapa in that game D1, while Hapa had scumreads on me/DP/OO on D1 (all mafia lol). I am banking on you having a decent read on him at the end of D1, as i have terribly misread him in the past (and i have never seen him play scum - although i hear it's quite terrible) and i do not need to distract you on him this game. ^_^
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At this point i really don't see anyone being mafia other than FT, Sylencia and Tutankoopa.
Who's your top scumread(s) marv?
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Oh shit, yeah also debears. I kinda just ignored him since he was nott making any sense at all..
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On August 29 2013 21:27 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there. debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak. Sylencia at the time you wrote this post what was yamato's read on marv in your opinion and why? Useless marv = scum marv was my impression. I don't have meta experience with marv so I don't know how much that holds but I mean it's stated pretty obviously in his post. Are you giving me a reading comprehension test or is this actually leading to something?
Wait you just contradicted yourself right?
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No, really:
sciberbia: "yamato thinks marv is scum because he is useless"
syl: "i think yamato's read on marv is weak"
syl: "useless marv = scum marv imo"
How does that make sense?
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Ahh sorry. You said that about yamato. nevermind.
Who do you think is mafia Sylencia? Outside debears.
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On August 29 2013 21:28 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At this point i really don't see anyone being mafia other than FT, Sylencia and Tutankoopa.
Who's your top scumread(s) marv? How do you end up having a scum read on me literally every game on D1?
Pretty much because if i am mafia you are pretty easy to attack, or if i am town you in my opinion comment on stuff i find irrelevant at that time.
This game basically PoE atm.
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On August 29 2013 21:33 Sylencia wrote:
How can you base how useful someone is from 1 hour of play before they go afk though? If the sample time used was actually relevant, sure I'd agree there's a case, but he said marv wasn't doing anything as the game just started
Yeah sorry i misread your post. You can ignore that. Who do you think is scum?
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On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.
Marv wanna lynch Rayn?
wait what do you mean?
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of course. What's your point?
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Yes i am saying i find Sylencia likely to be scum at the moment due to process of elimination. This does not mean i think he is scum and i am gonna vote for him. I think Tutankoopa is the scummies guy atm, that's why my vote is on him. I am trying to narrow the possibilities because looking at 4 people instead of 12 is far beneficial and finding townies is usually far easier for me than finding mafia, at least on D1.
I have never said i am not gonna vote for the dude i find scummiest. I am trying to explain my train of thought and why i think some people are more scummy than others. This is of course a subject to change, that's why even as i have a townread on marv i am trying to figure out where his head is at by interacting with him. I am not saying i am not gonna vote this guy, this guy and this guy, i am saying atm i find a good portion of players unlikely to be mafia compared to others.
Why is that scummy?
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On August 29 2013 21:35 Sylencia wrote:
debears, FT and atm I'm trying to look at the context of hopeless's posts but that may or may not lead to sn0 - I'll get back to you on the other one.
What do you mean by this?
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On August 29 2013 21:49 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 21:35 Sylencia wrote:
debears, FT and atm I'm trying to look at the context of hopeless's posts but that may or may not lead to sn0 - I'll get back to you on the other one. What do you mean by this? I was reading filters, reached hopeless's one and his posts lead me to sn0's filter, which lead me to the same conclusion as FT
Could you elaborate more on this, which post exactly and why? What's your thought process?
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