|
Can anybody provide some corroboration to this:
On August 29 2013 18:31 marvellosity wrote:
scibby's posts (especially at first) look weird and constructed as fuck to me but then again I thought the same in Ego and he was town, I guess I'll wait and see if he stays involved
I'm kinda using it as a reason to dismiss debears case but I'll admit A) Marv looks unhelpful this game so I'm not sure I should use anything he says to make reads and B) I've never played with sciberbia.
|
Iunno, I'm working on about the same approach to rayn as scibby is except rayn has a townread on me so I don't need to defend much.
Essentially, what marv said has been enough to explain most all of sciberbia's actions so far to me. Doesn't make him town at all, but saying that sciberbia has a meta of kinda being over-worried about in-thread image as town and posting like a tight-ass is enough for me to not be in any rush to lynch him.
Wasn't really impressed with Syl's response to me though.
|
Onegu was sheep-city and lynchbait last game who got mislynched d2 to extremely little resistance. Actually thats an ongoing game and I'm still in it so I can't comment too much more than that but I'd say that poor play is far far from a scumtell for him. I need to see real scum motivation behind his actions before I push a lynch on him.
|
Yeah, still calling that weak play for now, not scum play.
|
The thread shitting between oats and marv was awfully reciprocal tho, not terribly 1-sided from what I could see.
|
A quick perusal of Marv's filter yields the following: (with 1 post and 15 mins in between)
+ Show Spoiler [Marv tries to take the high ground] +On August 29 2013 19:14 marvellosity wrote:Hapa, for you I'm not going to respond to Oats' shitpost right there. Hapa, you don't buy debears being drunk? Or you do buy it but you don't think it excuses what he wrote? Strong enough for a vote even? Also Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 19:09 Hapahauli wrote:On August 29 2013 13:26 debears wrote:
Also, a 95% town read is full retard early d1 is full retard as town. As scum, its dumb but it has motivations (avoid early conflict, make friend of someone who apparently is consider3d bad town).
Vote scribs guise So according to this, debears doesn't care whether Scib is dumb town or scum. He mentions both, then uses it as a justification to vote. That's pretty darrrrrn scummy. I read this as "it's retarded as both alignments, but has motivations for one alignment, ergo he's that alignment" no?
+ Show Spoiler [Marv failing miserably 15 minutes later] +On August 29 2013 19:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 19:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Generally scum are more careful with their posting because they dont want to stand out too much.
Like they would think more about the appearance of their posting.
Hapa wanna lynch marv? And yet you're voting Tutankhamen for making a spectacle of himself with the policy stuff? HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE OATS?
I didn't feel like either of them had solid arguments on much, but they were going at it with gusto.
I hope you don't need me to go find similar disasters from Oats's filter? we both know they are there.
|
EBWOP: above was @rayn regarding the supposed 1-sidedness of their arguments.
|
On August 30 2013 03:58 yamato77 wrote:
Scib will be added to the post with debears
Yam: "Im only reading 2 people"
Thread: "thats retarded we should vig you"
Yam: "JK I'm reading everybody who is a subject of discussion or has made a serious case post so far"
Thats one hell of a 180. I mean, I'm glad its happening but its a big change of heart.
|
@rayn
Oats wasn't voting Koopa for making a spectacle lol. Instead of pulling out relevant quotes marv resorted to capslock to lend weight to his untrue argument. Iunno. I'm calling them about equal.
|
I'm really not here to argue with you about what oats and marv said and who was a bigger shitposter.
If you feel like marv was posting well and oats was being retarded and/or ruining the thread for no reason even though marv was trying to stop him then feel free to make a nice case to that effect.
As far as I'm concerned they were both vomiting garbage in a manner that really is not unique to them.
|
This is the spam that earns you ill will and makes people ignore you rayn. You are maintaining your standing as 1/4 of the posts in this thread. TOO. MANY.
If you don't see marv as shitposting, then you don't have to believe it. I'm *not* going to explain everything for you. If you think I'm scum for that, then the rest of the thread probably qualifies as well.
I quite simply don't see marv's posts as being contributing on a consistent basis. They were more angled towards getting oats mad and using emotional rather than logical arguments. I'm not judging marv on this yet, but that is how he entered the thread. Yes he also has reasonable posts (such as his last one where he brings attention to Syl's questions of me that actually ended up being informative).
|
On August 30 2013 05:20 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:19 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 05:17 debears wrote:
That is not a read on raynp
Scum, Town, Null? Town "Oookay interesting vote on SnO... wait wut he think's Sno is town?!? How does that make any goddamn sense?"
"Oh wait that's the most absurdly attention-whorey move ever, seems townie." How town?
WTF kind of question is that? Its less than 24hrs into day 1...
|
Koopa why ain't you pushing hopeless a bit more?
He seems like the best lynch so far tbh.
|
Iunno he seems to be wilfully misconstruing your posting and kinda tunnelling some. Plus a general lack of activity.
I don't seriously wish to lynch anybody yet, that stuff starts (for me) in ~20 hrs but I was expecting you to push him a bit more. How about dis:
@Hopeless: I assume you are out there somewhere. Why so tunnelled on the smurf? Got any other thoughts on who might be scummy? I'm bored and the people currently around want to lynch Onegu and Sylencia, whom I think are lynchbait atm. Agree? Disagree?
|
Dammit i'm always seconds too late on my post
That wasn't a sheep I promise lol
|
Hell, I served up some real fat pitches last page that you ignored hopeless. Hit some back to me.
|
DAMMIT ALWAYS 1 SECOND LATE
|
On August 30 2013 01:31 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 00:40 Sn0_Man wrote:NVM I lied. Syl I need some help reconciling the difference between this post (which was SPOT on by the way, I was impressed with how accurate it was). Bolded for emphasis on the relevant part. On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there.debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak. And your later stuff: On August 29 2013 21:44 Sylencia wrote:
That said, Sn0 is on the list for the same reason as FT. They both read, then both post crap a few hours later with the implication that they've read everything and then leave.
In Sn0's case he says he finds himself satisfied with his vote, meaning he found something scummy with scrib, but then unvotes saying it was utter bs and leaves. I'm not so much a fan of this 180 since you had me pegged in the first one. Hopeless's filter does NOT reveal anything that would change that read I don't think. First time was a quick filter dive to see what scribs was going on about - I took what was said at a very basic level and gave a gut reading on it. Second time round, I'm reading filters more in depth, I'm actually looking at the context around posts, and I found it to be worse this time (in addition, while you mention hopeless's posts give no alignment indication which is why I went to yours after I read his, I'm pretty sure active lurking is what scum is after). Anyways, sleep time hopefully you guys don't spam this to 40 pages 
Syl's last post was his "answer" when I presented essentially exactly the same concerns. Apparently he's asleep now
|
TBH I'm not sure who is a better vote than Alakaslam right now anyway. I'm willing to lynch oats but I feel like that its more intelligent to leave him around a bit longer, get more info out of him.
Sylencia is another option, although apart from his very early stuff that has been done to bits I don't see what else would incriminate him.
I'm not sure who else is a real candidate. Onegu is playing as I expect him to, which might be unfortunate but really doesn't make me want to lynch him. None of Marv/Hapa/Yam are remotely lynchable at this point. Sciberbia picked it up a ton.
Actually reading Tofu makes me plenty happy to lynch him, although at the same time I really question a scummer posting that lol.
I don't think koopa is a real lynch. If nothing else he's been reasonable to rayn, quite above and beyond the call. Which leaves bears but I once again feel that he deserves at least another day.
TL;DR: I still wanna lynch Alakaslam.
PS: maybe it wasn't clear, but I read most of yesterday and essentially never bothered posting once hapa got going because he was saying pretty much everything I thought about the thread. Only substantially more eloquently.
|
On August 30 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its only activity issues though. Are you scum?
Ur back and you haven't called me (and many others) scum yet for bad reasons. I'm still reading you on the wrong side of null.
No I'm not scum T_T I literally roll town every game.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
