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On August 29 2013 23:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 23:30 Sn0_Man wrote:I clearly pleaded with the wrong based gods for no spam  Can you answer rayn's question on Syl that he asked me?
You mean this?
On August 29 2013 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of Sylencia hopping to Sno and justifying it "via Hopeless' filter"?
Iunno hes entitled to think whatever he wants. Hypothetically going thru hopeless filter would be a positive but I don't think it shoves him off "null" for me.
I somehow scored like 3 free townreads early though so if nothing else he doesn't seem to be cherry picking somebody easy to point a finger at (another point in his favour).
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On August 29 2013 23:41 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 23:36 Onegu wrote:On August 29 2013 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 23:18 Onegu wrote:On August 29 2013 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, read FT's filter from Titanic and GoT and look at his general attitude towards me from the start of the game. Nah after GoT, he has reason for calling you out that seems non alignment indicative to me. Why did he do that in the same manner in Titanic then? Just thought he held you responseable for his lynch in GoT, which carried over until now. Not sure about the titanic thing. That makes no sense because FT never held me responsible for his lynch in GoT. Or, of course he did so AFTER the game when he found out i was scum, but it was iamp who was pushing FT lynch, not me. Titanic happened before GoT, that's why you should look at it, because that's.. you know, important. Ok I will check it out.
After you have done that, could you tell the thread what do you think about FT's general attitude towards me in Titanic (i was afk for the first 24h so you might start at somewhere around p3 in his filter), Nuclear Winter mafia, GoT, and compare it to this game. Thanks.
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Sn0 are you saying Hopeless had decent points against you?
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I have no clue wat hopless said against me. Was I supposed to read that too? I'm assuming its bullshit bcuz hopeless hasn't made much sense in the 3 or 4 posts of his that I noticed. Also because I'm town so any case against me has gotta be relatively flimsy.
Besides the way I read syl's post was essentially "I was reading hopeless, he mentioned sno, so I went and read sno next". I didn't get the impression he was sheeping a hopeless scumread.
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Sylecia said "what hopeless said made me look into Sno". Of course you are supposed to read what hopeless said, how else you can find out if Sylencia is being reasonable or not?
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Upon extensive and exhausting perusal of Hopeless's gigantic 1/2 page filter...
1) Screw you rayn
2) Hopeless's stance was that my first post was non-alignment-indicative.
Okay so now you want me to flame sylencia for going after me based on that? Iunno, flame him urself.
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Sn0_man:
On August 29 2013 22:00 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:44 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 21:28 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 21:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At this point i really don't see anyone being mafia other than FT, Sylencia and Tutankoopa.
Who's your top scumread(s) marv? How do you end up having a scum read on me literally every game on D1? Pretty much because if i am mafia you are pretty easy to attack, or if i am town you in my opinion comment on stuff i find irrelevant at that time. This game basically PoE atm. What's PoE, and what a brave self-incriminating sentence if you were scum. Too bad I don't see anything really different to your P4 play That said, Sn0 is on the list for the same reason as FT. They both read, then both post crap a few hours later with the implication that they've read everything and then leave. In Sn0's case he says he finds himself satisfied with his vote, meaning he found something scummy with scrib, but then unvotes saying it was utter bs and leaves. 2nd half - the process from hopeless was there was a mention about Sn0, hopeless said it showed he was actively reading, so I took a look and it looked pretty dumb
Does the bolded part make sense to you now that you have read hopeless' filter. where does he say so?
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Vote Count
Sn0_Man (0) raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (0) yamato77, tutankoopa
tutankoopa (3) Oatsmaster, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet
Sciberbia (1) sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, debears
marvellosity (0) yamato77
debears (1) Hapahauli
not voting (8) sciberbia, Sylencia, FirmTofu, Onegu, sn0_Man, tutankoopa, marvellosity, yamato77
tutankoopa is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone
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On August 29 2013 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 23:41 Onegu wrote:On August 29 2013 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 23:36 Onegu wrote:On August 29 2013 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 23:18 Onegu wrote:On August 29 2013 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, read FT's filter from Titanic and GoT and look at his general attitude towards me from the start of the game. Nah after GoT, he has reason for calling you out that seems non alignment indicative to me. Why did he do that in the same manner in Titanic then? Just thought he held you responseable for his lynch in GoT, which carried over until now. Not sure about the titanic thing. That makes no sense because FT never held me responsible for his lynch in GoT. Or, of course he did so AFTER the game when he found out i was scum, but it was iamp who was pushing FT lynch, not me. Titanic happened before GoT, that's why you should look at it, because that's.. you know, important. Ok I will check it out. After you have done that, could you tell the thread what do you think about FT's general attitude towards me in Titanic (i was afk for the first 24h so you might start at somewhere around p3 in his filter), Nuclear Winter mafia, GoT, and compare it to this game. Thanks.
Was he scum in titanic? Guessing he was as he calls you out that game and defends you in NWM.
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EBWOP: Sno, also read what Sylecia says to me after that post i quoted. I am trying to make you think by yourself here, not trying to get you flame anyone without a reason.
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Rayn we played this last game. I'm not gonna sit here and answer your questions all game. You obviously have a conclusion that you drew. If you want to share it with the thread in order please feel free.
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EBWOP: Last sentence above should be "If you want to share it with the thread, please feel free".
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marvellosity do you see what i see?
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On August 30 2013 00:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
Rayn we played this last game. I'm not gonna sit here and answer your questions all game. You obviously have a conclusion that you drew. If you want to share it with the thread in order please feel free.
Yes i have a conclusion. I am a bit puzzled however why are you unwilling to look at what Sylencia says about you? If someone called me out for reasons that make no sense to me i would definitely be willing to point that out in thread.
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For old times sake!
Eeveryone be confident.
Be back with analyses
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@Rayn
It rarely makes sense to me when people call me out. Does that make everybody who mentions me without singing my praises scum? I'm quite happy to assume not.
Syl's comments were that I demonstrated being around without posting/contributing, which isn't a townie thing. Also that my unvote was dumb.
He's wrong on both accounts but at this stage in the game I'd rather let people who have brains (a reasonably large section of this town I think) figure out my alignment for themselves rather than standing on street corners shouting about how townie I am and how this Sylencia guy is slandering me. Being wrong about somebody is hardly a scumtell.
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On August 29 2013 19:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Tutankoopa i would like you to explain a couple of things: Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote:On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dont think scum could be as stupid as rayn 1 in this regard. Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep 2 onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. 1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play? 2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1? Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain? How does the bolded part make sense? If Hopeless did not understand the "policy", why is it wrong for him to call my play stupid? What did he need to explain? To me his thought process makes sense.
1. He's been acting weird about the policy lynch on rayn, attacking me as if he seriously thought that I was dead set on lynching yamato in my first post of the game.
2. Calls rayn's play stupid afterwards.
Calling somebody's play "stupid" while not expressing a scum read on them implies you having a town, or at least not scum read on them. It seemed fake, as if the whole time he's had extra information, and he knows rayn is town and is subconsciously using that to justify his case on people who accuse rayn.
On August 29 2013 19:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. What's your thought process between starting and finishing this post? Did you read Oats filter between writing the post? Why? In the start of the post you say something, then you say another thing at the end of it. Why would you not read the whole thread before posting so you are on top of things and not need to change your opinion in the same post?
Yes I had read his filter and I changed my mind on a reread. Editing takes effort.
I've read everything else in the thread but I don't have anything to say about any of it.
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Fine Sno, no need to go further with this. I'll wait marv to answer and get to my conclusion then.
Who do you think is most likely mafia atm?
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NVM I lied.
Syl I need some help reconciling the difference between this post (which was SPOT on by the way, I was impressed with how accurate it was). Bolded for emphasis on the relevant part.
On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there.debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak.
And your later stuff:
On August 29 2013 21:44 Sylencia wrote:
That said, Sn0 is on the list for the same reason as FT. They both read, then both post crap a few hours later with the implication that they've read everything and then leave.
In Sn0's case he says he finds himself satisfied with his vote, meaning he found something scummy with scrib, but then unvotes saying it was utter bs and leaves.
I'm not so much a fan of this 180 since you had me pegged in the first one. Hopeless's filter does NOT reveal anything that would change that read I don't think.
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PS: essentially he's allowed to misread me but not allowed to read me perfectly then 180 w/o explanation. The latter needs explanation or else he joins my "scummy" pile.
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