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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 19:54 GMT
#2222
Onegu, you still around?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:00 GMT
#2230
On September 06 2013 04:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapahauli, can you read the whole thread, give your best lynch candidate with reasoning and we work from there. You definitely have not read it all.


I'm working through marv right now.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:02 GMT
#2231
On September 06 2013 04:37 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 04:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA


The bolded is false. I'm assuming that the water level will lower, or at least not rise when we lynch mafia. Why try and coordinate a syl+X lynch when the water will be lower if we only X? I have no idea what Onegu thinks is good about lynching syl and I need him to explain why it is pro town.




Because I dont believe syl is town, I think he fake claimed.


The thing is... how can you be so sure of this? You didn't say really anything about Syl since Day 1.

Also, his claim (if anything) is reason to doubt him being scum, and not the trigger to believe he's mafia.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:08 GMT
#2233
On September 06 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:37 Onegu wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA


The bolded is false. I'm assuming that the water level will lower, or at least not rise when we lynch mafia. Why try and coordinate a syl+X lynch when the water will be lower if we only X? I have no idea what Onegu thinks is good about lynching syl and I need him to explain why it is pro town.




Because I dont believe syl is town, I think he fake claimed.


The thing is... how can you be so sure of this? You didn't say really anything about Syl since Day 1.

Also, his claim (if anything) is reason to doubt him being scum, and not the trigger to believe he's mafia.

STOP TALKING UNTIL YOU HAVE READ THE THREAD!
Please!


I've read the thread, and I'm pursuing my own line of questioning.

I know you guys have voted marv, and I know about that wierd-ass Sylencia vote-claim thing.

And now I want to hear from Onegu, so stfu.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#2236
@ Yamato

On September 05 2013 20:37 yamato77 wrote:
Sn0 played this same sort of disconnected game where he was just... there as town in Persona. Is he capable of playing mafia this way? I don't know. But it isn't enough for me to want to lynch him. The fact that he's attempted to be a voice of reason today gives me some encouragement. I have doubts, and I cannot doubt my lynch choice today.

Rayn I voted for because of how I view his voting habits. Yes, there is context, but there is also an overriding mindset that should be the determining force in the placement of votes. Town players seldom vote for what they would label a mislynch, no matter what context. Also, he flips his read on me as I question my assumptions about his ability to emulate this sort of play as mafia. I doubted it before, but do I necessarily want to risk losing a game to him on the assumption that he can't reliably fake being a fucking nutjob as scum? Not really.

As for who I want to lynch, I'm yet undecided. It would be lovely if Marv gave a fuck about this game, but apparently he doesn't. Is this necessarily something I attribute to scum Marv? No, but it certainly doesn't help him in the face of his weak voting history and his lack of initiative in scumhunting.

I suppose I feel better about his lynch than just about anyone else. I have my misgivings about trusting Rayn, but I suppose that will always be the case with someone who plays mafia better than they do town.

##Unvote
##Vote Marvellosity


I really, really don't understand this vote at all.

"I'm undecided to vote marv. I'm not sure about marv's allignment. I'mma vote marv."

That is litereally what you posted.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:14 GMT
#2237
Derp I'm just not reading. Ex all that above.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#2238
On September 06 2013 01:05 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 00:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmmm rayn finally did somethign that makes some amount of sense. Still a bad play but it finally makes a bit of sense.

Rayn is saying that the host provided him a "VT" claim. I find that hard to believe so right now I'm going with "rayn is making up shit hoping Syl will provide a fake VT claim which would prove him maf".

Sorry rayn, i gave away ur game because ur really annoying.


That doesn't even make sense though considering we're not allowed to quote PMs, and the extent of a VT claim is just "Guys I'm VT", right? -_-


Well anyway, I read this over and over again looking for a town-sylencia explanation, but one doesn't come to mind.

So this confirms him as scum, no? Or at the very-least, it confirms him as not blue, and a town certainly wouldn't have incentive to fake-claim in this spot (much less a passive player like sylencia).

If so, let's kill the guy who's making a confirmed fakeclaim first.

We'll deal with marv tomorrow.

##Vote Sylencia
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#2240
On September 06 2013 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa.... Noooooo..
I want to lynch mafia!marv, now!

Why the fuck would Sylencia fakeclaim as mafia when there are no votes on anyone but marv??
Please, kill marv first!


Well apparently Sylencia did fakeclaim, no? I had similar doubts that you're expressing right now, but that quote by him seems pretty cut and dry.

The way I see it, Sylencia is 100% fake-claiming. That much is proven. If so, why are we taking a risk by killing someone else instead of the confirmed liar?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:26 GMT
#2241
Oh wait you're suggesting that he's fake-claiming as town?

Huh.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:32 GMT
#2245
On September 06 2013 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i am not. I am suggesting that he is trying to save marv, because that's the only fucking thing mafia can do right now.
Then they kill you and marv is gonna try to squirm out of getting lynched because i am a liar, bad and bla bla bla.


That makes absolutely no sense. I have no idea why we wouldn't kill a *confirmed* fakeclaimer first as opposed to any other person right now.

Fuck we need to kill marv now because he is the roleblocker and you will not die the next night!


Wha. How does that make sense?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:33 GMT
#2248
On September 06 2013 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm kinda willing to believe that the host is fucking with us tho since rayn claims his role isn't conditional on water level whereas all 3 other blue roles (and the 3p role as well) have been. I wouldn't put it past him to provide a fakeclaim to some but not all the blue roles in the same way.


I don't buy that explanation. Hosts fucking with PM's is a hosting no-no.

Alternatively since we've seen the role PMs of the other blue players we know that any fake claim would be received in a different PM, its possible the host forgot to provide sylencia with a fake-claim.


Plausible.

I'm merely going over possibilities since this lynch MUST be certain and my reads don't really align with syl scum.


Why not?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:34 GMT
#2249
On September 06 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because if mafia does not roleblock you you self-doc and LIVE TO WIN!
[/QUOTE]

No no no... how dafuq do you know that marv is the roleblocker? That's nonsensical.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:36 GMT
#2251
On September 06 2013 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mafia is all inning to save their roleblocker. If that was someone else than marv Sylencia would not have claimed scum.
Their only chance is to save marv the roleblocker, kill you and WIFOM me.


When have you ever seen mafia all-in to save the roleblocker in any game you've played?

If marv is scum, roleblocker or not, you probably all-out bus the guy.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:38 GMT
#2253
@ Yamato

Are you around?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:44 GMT
#2259
On September 06 2013 05:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hapa why is it a fake claim? Because there's no vt fake claim? Why would he fake claim as mafia when he did? What do you think about the role in general, plausible or not? You don't like the breadcrumb?


Breadcrumb is fine, and the role-claim is plausible.

I guess I shouldn't be putting too much stock into the role PM stuff.

It seems l ike you guys have your heart set on lynching marv. At this point, I doubt there's much I could do to stop you, nor do I have any real compelling evidence to do so. My gut read on marv is still town, and I'd expect far more pro-active scumplay from him than to afk for the past 48 hours.

Anyway, I'm goign to be on for another 30 minutes and then I have to go to class. I won't be able to check the thread on my computer until after the deadline, however I"ll be able to check stuff on my phone and move votes around accordingly.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:52 GMT
#2269
On September 06 2013 05:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hapa why is it a fake claim? Because there's no vt fake claim? Why would he fake claim as mafia when he did? What do you think about the role in general, plausible or not? You don't like the breadcrumb?


Breadcrumb is fine, and the role-claim is plausible.

I guess I shouldn't be putting too much stock into the role PM stuff.

It seems l ike you guys have your heart set on lynching marv. At this point, I doubt there's much I could do to stop you, nor do I have any real compelling evidence to do so. My gut read on marv is still town, and I'd expect far more pro-active scumplay from him than to afk for the past 48 hours.

Anyway, I'm goign to be on for another 30 minutes and then I have to go to class. I won't be able to check the thread on my computer until after the deadline, however I"ll be able to check stuff on my phone and move votes around accordingly.


If you can please post why you think marv is town before you go.


It's a gut feeling. Just by how emotional he's been this game, and his thought process has seemed genuine. I think a lot of the cases against him are putting too high expectations on his game. To put it bluntly, he hasn't been playing all that well in past town games.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 20:53 GMT
#2270
And Rayn, if you're sure that Syl is fakeclaiming, then we should vote Syl.

You're looking to make big plays instead of sane plays.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 21:00 GMT
#2276
Why would you want to lynch Thrawn? He's been one of the most productive players in teh last 48 hours.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 22:54 GMT
#2309
well im fuk'd

##Vote Marv
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 22:56 GMT
#2311
On September 06 2013 07:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
well im fuk'd

##Vote Marv

Wat


i assume that's a scumclaim from him
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