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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 05 2013 18:59 GMT
#2201
Hello
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2013 19:01 GMT
#2202
Hello thrawn. Thoughts on sylencia's claim as conditional lynchproof?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#2203
He is lynchproof and transfers the lynch, but the water level rises? There's no reason for town to lynch him if the claim is true. Town would be better off lynching the scummiest person so that syl doesn't raise the water level. So is he town? I thought he was before the claim and I buy his explanation for why he claimed. Anyways I don't see why we should lynch him, the claimed mechanic is incredibly anti-town. I don't buy that he's trying to save marv, because why would he claim an anti-town role? I don't think he wants to get lynched, so the question is if he's town or mafia trying not to get lynched. He explained why he's doing it before he sleeps, and it kinda makes sense for town to do that anyways. After all we're probably at mylo, when else to claim but now?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2013 19:15 GMT
#2204
Excellent. Thoughts on Onegu's reaction to his claim then?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 05 2013 19:25 GMT
#2205
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA


The bolded is false. I'm assuming that the water level will lower, or at least not rise when we lynch mafia. Why try and coordinate a syl+X lynch when the water will be lower if we only X? I have no idea what Onegu thinks is good about lynching syl and I need him to explain why it is pro town.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#2206
On September 06 2013 04:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA


The bolded is false. I'm assuming that the water level will lower, or at least not rise when we lynch mafia. Why try and coordinate a syl+X lynch when the water will be lower if we only X? I have no idea what Onegu thinks is good about lynching syl and I need him to explain why it is pro town.




Jeez ok we are lynching marv, if marv isnt scum we lose. Ok If syl claim is true he doesnt get lynch and the person who has the second most votes gets lynched, we set it up that marv is the second most votes. If syl is lieing about his claim and is maifa he dies and the water goes down. If he is telling the truth he doesnt get lynched the water goes up to 900 and marv gets lynched. If marv is town we lose if marv is scum the water goes down. The only risk there is is if syl is telling the truth (which I highly doubt) and all 3 scum do a last minute vote switch to make the vote 3-3-2 I dont see that happenign as 2 active townies could stop it.

Tldr

If syl is town, and 2nd most votes is scum we dont lose
If syl is scum he dies and we dont lose
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#2207
So far so good.

Any chance we could lynch Onegu today? Despite how badly I want marv to be scum based on gut etc, I still don't have anything solid on him whereas this post from Onegu is, as we've both concluded, advocating a scum-favoured line of play.

BTW Onegu's excuse if you read is basically "syl is scum but even if he isn't this should work". Which is terrible.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2013 19:37 GMT
#2208
Well i got beat by a few seconds AGAIN dammit
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 19:37 GMT
#2209
On September 06 2013 04:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA


The bolded is false. I'm assuming that the water level will lower, or at least not rise when we lynch mafia. Why try and coordinate a syl+X lynch when the water will be lower if we only X? I have no idea what Onegu thinks is good about lynching syl and I need him to explain why it is pro town.




Because I dont believe syl is town, I think he fake claimed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:39 GMT
#2210
Look, already trying to swing the vote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:40 GMT
#2211
Onegu just stop talking and vote for marv ok?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#2212
This is the only night syl can be confirmed. If you have doubts about his claim, like I do the water should only go down from here. We most likely have to lynch scum everyday to win. Meaning the water will only go down. If it goes up by 100 it will still go down when mafia dies. Since it went up by 200 everytime a town got lynched I am guessing the same will happen when mafia dies which gets us below the 750 mark for syl to be lynchproof. Lynching him now either confirms him with little risk or kills scum. No other day can we do that and still win if he is telling the truth.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#2213
On September 06 2013 04:44 Onegu wrote:
This is the only night syl can be confirmed. If you have doubts about his claim, like I do the water should only go down from here. We most likely have to lynch scum everyday to win. Meaning the water will only go down. If it goes up by 100 it will still go down when mafia dies. Since it went up by 200 everytime a town got lynched I am guessing the same will happen when mafia dies which gets us below the 750 mark for syl to be lynchproof. Lynching him now either confirms him with little risk or kills scum. No other day can we do that and still win if he is telling the truth.

Why do you want to lynch Sylencia when marv is scum?
Sylencia could be town and you are making no sense here.
Why are you so unwilling to vote for marv?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#2214
Onegu, give me a scenario, where we arrange votes, and it is not going to be a F5 battle, and we lynch mafia regardless of Sylencia's alignment.

Do it!
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 19:50 GMT
#2215
On September 05 2013 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now seriously guys, Hapa and Sylencia:
Is your rolename seriously Conditional [insert role here]??


Yes. However you're getting on very edgy territory by analyzing role PMs.

@ Sylencia

I'm Conditional Lynchproof. Only works while water level is 750+, but if I was to be lynched the water level rises by 100 instead (and the next highest dies still). Crumbed it last night because that's when it became active (in the case of vig shots), but looks like no one caught on to it.


Where is your breadcrumb?

Rayn's case though, is next level reading and it's something where if you read it in the eyes of scum marv, you wouldn't ever really be able to see that kind of hole because you don't consider that sort of analysis on that post.

##Vote marvellosity


You voted marv under this rationale, but it's really wonky. A "next level reading" case isn't justification to vote someone, nor do I understand wtf that even means.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#2216
Hey hapa, do you have a vanilla fakeclaim?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 19:53 GMT
#2217
On September 06 2013 04:44 Onegu wrote:
This is the only night syl can be confirmed. If you have doubts about his claim, like I do the water should only go down from here. We most likely have to lynch scum everyday to win. Meaning the water will only go down. If it goes up by 100 it will still go down when mafia dies. Since it went up by 200 everytime a town got lynched I am guessing the same will happen when mafia dies which gets us below the 750 mark for syl to be lynchproof. Lynching him now either confirms him with little risk or kills scum. No other day can we do that and still win if he is telling the truth.


THe problem with this plan is that it's very doubtful town has the voting power to secure both the #'s 1 and 2 lynch.

We probably have 5 townies left in a town of 8 people, which means that 4 townies *must* be on the correct wagon to prevent any last minute switch scenarios by scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 19:53 GMT
#2218
On September 06 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey hapa, do you have a vanilla fakeclaim?


It's a sample vanilla PM, but yeah I do
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2013 19:53 GMT
#2219
And I'd suspect that every single mafia member has one too
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:54 GMT
#2220
HAHAHAHAHAH SYLECIA IS MAFIA!
but we still lynch marv!
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