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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:22 GMT
#728
On September 08 2013 13:08 Bereft wrote:
##Vote: MyRZeth

reasons include:
a. he sux bawls
b. it's pretty clear - he's not going to change his mind about lurking anytime soon
c. i think there's definitely 1 scum in the bunch that voted for ray. the sudden piling of votes onto ray was weird. i'm wondering if the shift of votes had anything to do with myrzeth being mafia and his mafia buddies freaking out with him about to get lynched

in any case i would like to hear from killerdog why he switched his vote as well as from the town why another player may be a better candidate for lynch today.

So bad bereft. So bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:27 GMT
#729
On September 09 2013 05:20 infii wrote:
Koshi what do you think about LoneMeow?

Ok for now.

What do you think about the guy that is voting for a guy that claimed RB?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:31 GMT
#733
On September 09 2013 05:28 infii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:27 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:20 infii wrote:
Koshi what do you think about LoneMeow?

Ok for now.

What do you think about the guy that is voting for a guy that claimed RB?


You can read up my thoughts about Umasi in my analysis. Nothing has changed.

Cool. I think you are pretty town.

Or a scummer that has a death wish. Claiming RB.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:38 GMT
#734
So let's get a bereft wagon going?

This guy thinks LV is 100% scum. His best buddy Blurry thought LV was 100% scum. After the night he made this post saying that LV is 100% scum.
On September 07 2013 08:27 Bereft wrote:
NOOOO NOT MY BUDDY BLURRY. blurry I will avenge you.

@HolyFlare FINALLY someone else sees it.

posting from my phone right now, will be around to post if not tonight then definitely tomorrow.


Then he votes for an easy target in mYrz.

Also bereft never followed up on his killerdog read?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:42 GMT
#737
bereft, Umasi, killerdog scumteam.


gg I win.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:53 GMT
#740
On September 09 2013 05:47 infii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:
bereft, Umasi, killerdog scumteam.


gg I win.


I'm not sold on Bereft. If you look it up, he announced myrz as his top lynch target before the NK here + Show Spoiler +
On September 06 2013 13:34 Bereft wrote:
there's probably only one. and there's also a small chance that somehow they all managed to place their vote elsewhere. so that's only about a a 20% chance of hitting scum... but out of the 5 who voted for chairman, i like myrzeth, killerdog and lonemeow in that order (for lynch candidates).

Yes, that's a perfect way for scum to keep their options open. Bereft clearly knew that he didn't give enough reasons to vote myrz so let's see what other reasons he can give to justify his vote:

On September 08 2013 13:08 Bereft wrote:
##Vote: MyRZeth

reasons include:
a. he sux bawls
b. it's pretty clear - he's not going to change his mind about lurking anytime soon
c. i think there's definitely 1 scum in the bunch that voted for ray. the sudden piling of votes onto ray was weird. i'm wondering if the shift of votes had anything to do with myrzeth being mafia and his mafia buddies freaking out with him about to get lynched

in any case i would like to hear from killerdog why he switched his vote as well as from the town why another player may be a better candidate for lynch today.

tldr: He is a bad lurker and he was on Chairman Ray.

why bereft voted for myrz:
He is a bad lurker and he was on Chairman Ray.

why bereft didn't vote for LV on who(m) he made a million cases:
+ Show Spoiler +
nothing to see here
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:54 GMT
#742
Also, when LV asked for his replacement. Everybody who thought LV was scum should have still voted for LV.
Or is his replacement going to be town suddenly?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:57 GMT
#743
Why are you not counting Koshi his vote? D:
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 20:57 GMT
#744
Move to bereft guys.

gogogogo!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:04 GMT
#751
On September 09 2013 06:00 killerdog wrote:
1) I'm not sure lynching bereft/lonemeow is the best idea. Neither of them have really posted much since yesterday,

2) Koshi, what is your reasoning for/for not killing myrzeth tonight?


On September 09 2013 06:01 killerdog wrote:
Right now it feels like all that's happening (other then holyflare and infii going back and forth) 3) is koshi and holyflare pushing for voting for people who aren't here.

Where is everyone else? If you're reading please speak T.T

O rly?

You going to blame us for pushing people that can't defend themselves?

Have you even read your cases?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#752
On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone?


I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though.

You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.)

The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything.

If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.)
If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse.

Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough.

Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one.

I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave.

Here is your previous post again.

tldr: lynch people who don't talk much.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#756
On September 09 2013 06:08 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 06:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 06:00 killerdog wrote:
1) I'm not sure lynching bereft/lonemeow is the best idea. Neither of them have really posted much since yesterday,

2) Koshi, what is your reasoning for/for not killing myrzeth tonight?


On September 09 2013 06:01 killerdog wrote:
Right now it feels like all that's happening (other then holyflare and infii going back and forth) 3) is koshi and holyflare pushing for voting for people who aren't here.

Where is everyone else? If you're reading please speak T.T

O rly?

You going to blame us for pushing people that can't defend themselves?

Have you even read your cases?


I've stated my reasons for not wanting to vote for bereft/lonemeow unless we're sure they're scum already. And given this is a newbie game, they could easily have been just suspicious town play (as evidenced by chairman ray.) I would much prefer to at least have a chance to see them respond to the accusations, and make a judgement then.

Have you been reading my posts?

yes. I was not impressed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#757
On September 09 2013 06:09 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:
On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone?


I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though.

You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.)

The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything.

If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.)
If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse.

Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough.

Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one.

I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave.

Here is your previous post again.

tldr: lynch people who don't talk much.


So why are you so against lynching myrzeth?

I am not against it.
I found scum in bereft and want to lynch him over a nullread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:12 GMT
#759
I need to go afk for a while. Will be back before deadline.

It's better that you guys control the tread anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:14 GMT
#760
On September 09 2013 06:12 infii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 06:09 killerdog wrote:
On September 09 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:
On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:
On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone?


I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though.

You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.)

The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything.

If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.)
If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse.

Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough.

Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one.

I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave.

Here is your previous post again.

tldr: lynch people who don't talk much.


So why are you so against lynching myrzeth?

I am not against it.
I found scum in bereft and want to lynch him over a nullread.


Isn't lurking a scum trait?
However, considering how late Koshi went in he can't really afford to make long cases against people. So I don't blame him for that.

Meh, posting just enough to not get lynched is a scumtrait.

Not posting at all is way too may times town trait.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:46 GMT
#788
I don't call your post stupid. You contradict yourself. I point that out.

btw. You have been in this game for 100 hours. And your only idea is to lynch a nullread?

Which are the other 2 pesons you would like to lynch killerdog?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:58 GMT
#828
Would be really bad!!!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:58 GMT
#829
Wtf why am I scum?

lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:59 GMT
#837
-_- you are funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 08 2013 21:59 GMT
#839
Koshi flips green.
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