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johnnywup
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On August 20 2013 17:03 yamato77 wrote: I don't understand why you're so passive-aggressive. he's not even passive, just aggressive | ||
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On August 23 2013 10:48 mkfuba07 wrote: Welcome johnny. Maybe you can shed some light on this game, because I'm just about ready to throw a dart to choose who I vote for. its pretty much a clusterfuck where i'm at, i take it that that hasn't changed? ugh so much to read. Hopefully I'll be caught up by before deadline so I can share my thoughts. | ||
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Or is there something more current that I haven't gotten to yet? Because if it's just that first post that I linked, I'm pretty unconvinced. | ||
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because I don't know why geript was voting crazo in the first place. | ||
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I'm still catching up but I think geript may have been right in voting crazo. he seem pretty scummy where I'm at (his case against kush...) | ||
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On August 23 2013 13:07 mkfuba07 wrote: If the choice is between me and sn0, then you know my answer. However, at this point I'd be willing to vote for WoS. He's done a bunch of weird little things that itched at me, but didn't really mean much alone. That consolidate post doesn't look like what I'd expect out of him as town. I would have expected him to kind of take charge like Rainbows has, but he basically just said "everyone vote for one person, and I'll be back later to see who it is!" I'm actually kind of warming up to Vayne's idea of 3p WoS, but at the very least I have serious doubts that he's town. ##Vote:WoS um, what? you can't just say something like that then not point them out >_> | ||
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Full disclosure: I'm still not completely caught up. | ||
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I'm unconvinced he's scum. Convince me. | ||
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On August 23 2013 16:52 Sn0_Man wrote: Johnny seems sincere but he could just be aiming for townie points when me or wos flip since he dodged my request for an alternate scumread completely. hey sorry i was playing league with a friend. I didn't mean to dodge your request. I already said I'd be good with lynching crazo but that's not happening as it seems no one else does? | ||
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On August 23 2013 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: - Then he does consolidate on his townread while having 10 scumreads. This is probably the most damning, at least in my opinion. I just can't see town mindset here. Kush said that this point is moot because he's doing it to save himself...I disagree. I don't think it's moot. Even if the main two lynches are you and a townread, why in the world would you vote for your townread? Like, it's not "it's either you or me". That's just not how it is. He could have pushed one of his scumreads to be lynched but would rather consolidate on a townread. It just makes no sense as town. He could be a survivor, like mkfuba said, but I'd rather lynch a possible survivor than someone who I think is probably town. | ||
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On August 23 2013 22:06 Koshi wrote: I would love to lynch a teammate of rayn first tbh. Like yamato. The snowman should not be lynched. But I am on the sideline now lol :D. Interested to hear what everybody says. yeah I was catching up and this caught my eye. What the heck? If you're convinced rayn is scum why wouldn't you lynch him? You can't make association cases pre-flip, even with the red check on rayn. Speaking of which, I'd like to ask people not to judge rayn from the parity check only but mostly what they think of him, independent of the check. I'll be honest, his posting sort of reminds me of his posting in GoT (he was scum) in that he is very abrasive in his posting and shows that he can act pretty ballsy as scum. I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum, and the red check only strengthens my opinion. | ||
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On August 24 2013 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I definitely did not tunnel WoS on D1. I focused mostly on other stuff. You were voting for him too. If you didn't think he was mafia at the end of D1 why did your vote end up on him then? And is it now suddenly my and only my fault that he was town? I understand you were not here before you replaced geript, but still... It's pretty cheap to say it's entirely my fault we mislynched. no of course it's not only your fault I don't know where you're getting that from. You can't deny you were the major force pushing him though. I don't want to say that I thought he was town, but I really didn't know where else to put my vote seeing as I have a townread on sn0 and they were the only two lynches that had any remote chance of going through when I was caught up and ready to vote. I did think he had a decent chance of flipping scum. | ||
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I find guessing any of your thoughts ever incredibly difficult | ||
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On August 24 2013 15:22 FirmTofu wrote: The way I see it: 1) Koshi is SAM and claims SAM OR 2) Koshi is scum and claims SAM BOTH are unlikely. There is no realize reason to claim in both scenarios, so it is clear that Koshi made a bad play. However, I do not think the play was alignment indicative. Bad town play is synonymous with bad scum play in that neither alignment want to be doing it. If you can explain to me why scum Koshi would claim SAM, I may consider your theory. are you thick in the head or just scum? as town he has reason to claim because if someone flips town and he gets parity checked with him and it says opposite he'd get suspected of being scum, and if its just an allignment cop he would come out red. If he gets checked he comes out RED. If he's scum it's obvious why he'd claim SAM. He'd come back red to checks anyways so it would be a way to potentially save him if he gets checked... | ||
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yeah yamato easy scum, exactly like GoT. if he flips town i will eat my shoe. I believe fubas claim and I think that his filter is the weakest in your case. I do believe he is telling the truth and is town. I do want to know what to do about rayn though. No matter what, I'm still going to have a lingering thought that rayn got red checked >_> I know it's not certain but it makes me suspicious of whatever he does now. I don't think rayn is the best lynch considering everything else, so the problems going to remain (for me...I don't know if anyone else feels the same). I think yamato is probably the best lynch. before this i was eh about onegu, never really thought about him, but yeah you're right kush he looks scummy as fuck ##vote yamato77 | ||
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On August 25 2013 08:21 kushm4sta wrote: Yup Rayne is sk. Scum just gonna rb him the rest of the game to hide his kp. I agree it's a possibility actually. Let's go over the facts Rayn asks to be vigged because it's the "right move for town". If we consider that he could be an SK then...he has 2 nightlives AND comes out red to checks. Since koshi is almost 100% turning out red to checks and the parity was same, Rayn is either framed, NSAM, or SK with 2 nightlives. This only really makes sense if fuba is scum or at least lying about being vig. I'm not convinced fuba is scum though, so I dunno if it's true but it's a possibility. I'm more inclined to believe fuba though :| | ||
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On August 25 2013 10:13 mkfuba07 wrote: I don't think they do either, but in kush's hypothetical scenario we do. how come you say "they" the first half of the sentence but then switch to "we"? scumslip? | ||
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I had a decently town read on you but now I'm not so sure | ||
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Yeah, sure thing Koshi. I'm like 95% sure yamato and onegu are scum. the last one (assuming 4 scum, which makes sense in this setup) is a bit trickier I think. We can't ignore that rayn has a red check on him...his posting hasn't been exactly pro town either, but he does seem to be trying to catch scum :\ FirmTofu could be also. He has a lot of individual scummy posts but also a lot of individual posts that seem to be contributing to discussion. I'm not sure about him, he could very well be scum. Rainbows COULD be scum, I won't rule that out, but I don't think he is right now..he is very SCUMMY but I'm not sure if he is SCUM. The last option is Sn0. Onegu's actions in voting sn0 really look like a bus to me...I otherwise think he would be a townie but bleh. it's possible it's sn0. So Yamato, Onegu, and one of Rayn/FT/Rainbows/sn0 If I were to pick one...eh shit I have no idea. Maybe rayn? He's been shitting up the thread for a long time, but apparently he does that as town too. I have no idea. Everyone else is pretty townie...but hell that's only like me and 3 other people >_> this game is just really scummy. Anyways, I'm pretty confident in Yamato and Onegu. I'm okay lynching either yamato or onegu. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Onegu | ||
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*yawn* got no sleep last night so I fell asleep right as I got home. sorry for not posting earlier. Ft is scummy as fuck. Yamato is fitting his scum meta to a t. Seriously, how is he still alive? Just look at his filter. Has he done anything to help town in any way shape or form? He comments from the sidelines occasionally then appears to defend himself whenever someone has a case against him. Scum. Scum most likely lie within VA, sn0, FT, Rainbows, and yamato. I'm pretty freaking convinced yamato is one of the scum. Koshi's post pre-daypost is pretty convincing to me that FT is likely scum but he has been pretty convincing since he has been accused >_> I definitely would have liked him to start posting this way a long time ago. Since he only started posting non fluff actively after being accused I'll put him as still likely scum. Sn0 tunneling FT looks like a bus or something. I think it would make a lot of sense if sn0 and FT are on the same scumteam, tbh and I don't know why the current town sentiment seems to be thinking that they can't both possibly be scum. He tunneled rayn...and rayn tunneled him...we can't ignore that. I find myself agreeing with rayn, a dead man. Particularly this post: + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have concluded that yamato, FirmTofu and one of johnnywup/Sn0_man are mafia: This is mostly due to process of elimination. I don't think there is any chance of mkfuba or Koshi to be scum. I do not think kushmasta is scum. Rainbows is probably town because of the following. In our newbie game Rainbows was inactive at the start of the game. When he finally got in thread, the first thing he did was to check scum QT for what is going on. I do not think he would do this "lol you can't be cop, lynch rayn!" if he was mafia, he would have checked the scum QT first and he would see how stupid his accusation on me is. vayne if you are town i suggest you pick your game up because you are another questionmark, although johnnywup and Snodude look a lot worse than you do, and yamato is accusing you. FirmTofu did consider Snoman as a lynch over Onegu. There were 2 candidates who could have been possibly lynched over Onegu last day. They were yamato and Rainbows. FirmTofu said nothing about them, and when i brought up Rainbows he went over his filter and voted for him in the end. When Onegu corrected me and said yamato is actually the only one we can get a lynch on, FirmTofu left. He did not even look at who were realisticly possible to lynch, and when we got our shit together with Onegu, he left. Snodude wasted his vote. totally. This added to his play before makes him very likely mafia. johnnywup's reasons for voting on D2 are horrible. geript was scummy. Very likely mafia. snodude and yamato do not address each other like ever.. yamato soft pushed Sno, who has been looking scummy all game, but does notthing to question him, does nothing to find out his alignment. yamato also has not even tried to lead the town into any direction. He just comments on some things going on into the game, makes some random comments that do not help the town at all, does not try to push any lynches for real, does not defend/attack anyone. He is a definition of blending in. Pick from those guys on D3. i'd say FirmTofu and yamato are definitely scum. Then one of johnnywup / Snoman. I'd place my bets on Sno over johnny. I'm fairly confident at least 2 out of 3 of yamato/sn0/firmtofu is scum. It could certainly be all 3. If it's not all 3: Who is the scum, if one of the three isn't mafia? I'd say Rainbows is a possibility. I sort of have a weak town read on him but I feel like FT and yamato might know they're going down and are voting him to discredit the thought that he might be scum. Who knows. He's been pretty useless but like someone said (I forget who) he does have a couple posts that I can't see a scum Rainbows making. VA is being weird right now and won't lynch FT. I'm not sure if that's a very obvious scum trying to help another scum avoid a lynch or what...it seems way too obvious to be that...:\ I think these are the two we should look at if any of the three I listed does not flip scum, but I think we should obviously lynch those 3 first. I do think that yamato FT and sn0 are probably the remaining scumteam. | ||
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@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be? | ||
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On August 28 2013 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote: no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum. Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be. you sure? | ||
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 ----------- why are you tunneling me so hard?and yes vayne i'm busy school started so i'm not here throughout the day. | ||
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2=FT 3=yamato http://i.imgur.com/NvRsDWA.png random.org has spoken ##vote yamato | ||
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What are you talking about the blue beetle? | ||
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i haven't really been paying attention lately due to school and homework and watching TSM wreck face :D I guess I'll vote for firmtofu since that's happening. ##vote firmtofu | ||
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I thought I was playing decently for the first half or so of the game. Then I felt like everyone was being so painfully obviously scum. And school started for me so I wasn't able to post. Having an obvious scum like yamato and a new player in crazo wasn't the easiest, and also have geript be the person I was replacing (and him being obviously scum) wasn't easy. FT was a scumread of mine before I even replaced in, I thought he was sort of obvious. I'd like to think I was less obvious, at least until I lost interest. I sort of lost interest when it became obvious how low our shots were. I also think this setup generally favored town, but maybe I'm just bitter. There were too many confirmed townies that we could never lynch and too few people that could actually be mislynch targets. Bleh, whatever. Gratz to town! | ||
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FT screw you | ||
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