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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 16 2013 14:18 GMT
#62
I'm kinda tempted, but on the chance that LXII and Aperture start soon, I can't really.
Also I think if I did play I'd have to be a Shadow. (get it?)
Also I have no idea what the theme of this game is.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#88
Again my issue with joining (I really want to) is there are 2 huge games that I'm signed up for that will start soon. 3 games at once is pretty unacceptable imo and I really wouldn't be able to put in much effort. Hydra-ing in this game would solve that a little, but then again its not like it would fill an empty slot so that doesn't help.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 18 2013 20:42 GMT
#90
Alright how about this:
/in

But don't expect anywhere near my usual level of activity. Period.
If you guys would rather wait until 2 others join let me know and ill /out.

Hopefully this will start by tomorrow and it won't be as much of an issue...
Go recruit!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 19 2013 06:44 GMT
#93
Ok MZ just announced LXII going on hold until after Aperture so I'll stay /in on this one for sure.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#117
On August 20 2013 02:17 kushm4sta wrote:
but no ive never been there. i live in bangor

STEPHEN KING

Also yeah deadline is crazy early and I will not be around for it like everyone else who lives in a NORMAL TIMEZONE
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 19 2013 20:30 GMT
#119
On August 20 2013 05:28 mkfuba07 wrote:
With my late first day of school, I'll probably be able to be there at deadlines if I want to wake up an hour or two earlier, but I'm not making any promises. I have to start taking close care of my sleep schedule, or I'll be screwed once school actually starts. I'm hoping to be more "frequent and constructive post"-y compared to "lurk and hopefully give good insight when I actually post"-y, but I've made that promise before and I didn't really follow it...

(those of you who've never played with me before, this is the kind of wishy-washiness that you should expect from me )


Anyway, I'm so excited to play again!!

I'm excited to win this game just because fuba's in it
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 12:40 GMT
#212
Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow.
So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours.
Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 12:45 GMT
#216
On August 20 2013 21:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow.
So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours.
Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet?

So... we shouldn't post?

Well for example, if Rayn is town, playing like he does, he's inevitably going to be targeted by mafia as he often is N1 in most games. I just don't see much of an advantage in attempting to prove yourself towny at this point in the game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 12:53 GMT
#222
On August 20 2013 21:47 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 21:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 21:41 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow.
So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours.
Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet?

So... we shouldn't post?

Well for example, if Rayn is town, playing like he does, he's inevitably going to be targeted by mafia as he often is N1 in most games. I just don't see much of an advantage in attempting to prove yourself towny at this point in the game.

Are you trying to tell us about your plans, scum-WoS?

How would you expect me to respond to that question, yamato?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:01 GMT
#224
On August 20 2013 21:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 21:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 21:47 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 21:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 21:41 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow.
So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours.
Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet?

So... we shouldn't post?

Well for example, if Rayn is town, playing like he does, he's inevitably going to be targeted by mafia as he often is N1 in most games. I just don't see much of an advantage in attempting to prove yourself towny at this point in the game.

Are you trying to tell us about your plans, scum-WoS?

How would you expect me to respond to that question, yamato?

I was hoping to make you think over what you have written there in the context that it makes little sense from a town perspective.

But instead, you think I was serious?

No, just wondering what kind of answer you would expect.
It makes perfect sense from a town perspective and I've already explained how.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:02 GMT
#225
On August 20 2013 21:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow.
So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours.
Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet?

Shouldn't we help the town cop/doc/vigi to help pick their targets -_-

Also, my conspiracies vibes are tingling. I have a strong feeling you rolled scum but not a Shadow.

Oh yeah, Koshi, u scum?
You do this kind of thing a lot as scum it seems.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:06 GMT
#228
On August 20 2013 22:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you do the same thing as Yamato, WoS.
Interesting.

Wat?
So Rayn if you don't die tonight does that mean I can consider you scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:12 GMT
#233
On August 20 2013 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 21:41 yamato77 wrote:

Are you trying to tell us about your plans, scum-WoS?


Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:02 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh yeah, Koshi, u scum?
You do this kind of thing a lot as scum it seems.


Is this different WoS? Can you tell me how the 2 sentences are significantly different.


Completely different because I'm actually accusing Koshi. I don't expect him to answer, so I guess that is sort of the same?
I will further elaborate---as scum Koshi tends to conspiracy-theorize a fair amount.
To even suggest that I would scumclaim in thread is ridiculous and reeks to me of his 'trying to look genuinely innocent/conspiracy-theory-type town' scumplay present in both GoT and Nuclear.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:20 GMT
#236
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:22 GMT
#238
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?

In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now?

Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn.
Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC?
Hell, did I ever even mention it again?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:25 GMT
#240
On August 20 2013 22:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I wasnt asking why you think Koshi is scum.

You think yamato isnt serious in his accusation? Why?

Oats so smart. Yamato and WoS are scum.

Hey Koshi, want to contribute at all, or are you content to sit back and hide now that other people are tunneling a towny for you?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:31 GMT
#245
On August 20 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?

In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now?

Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn.
Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC?
Hell, did I ever even mention it again?

It's not the point that you changed your mind in CCM.
The point is that you DID change your mind in CCM. I think townies learn from their mistakes (as it was a mistake to make the suggestion in CCM). It does not mean shit what you do now after you said we should not talk. The point is Why are you suggesting a same anti-town idea you mistakenly did in another game - why are you doing the same mistake you should have learned from in the last game?

The fact that you assume I haven't learned is disturbing to me, Rayn.
What do you think of Koshi, Rayn?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:36 GMT
#251
On August 20 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?

In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now?

Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn.
Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC?
Hell, did I ever even mention it again?

It's not the point that you changed your mind in CCM.
The point is that you DID change your mind in CCM. I think townies learn from their mistakes (as it was a mistake to make the suggestion in CCM). It does not mean shit what you do now after you said we should not talk. The point is Why are you suggesting a same anti-town idea you mistakenly did in another game - why are you doing the same mistake you should have learned from in the last game?

The fact that you assume I haven't learned is disturbing to me, Rayn.
What do you think of Koshi, Rayn?

No, seriously. Why did you suggest that we should not talk? Why are you avoiding the question? I can clearly show from your filter in CCM that you did start scumhunting on N0 when hosts told you also roles can start acting then. You clearly thought you were wrong and staerted acting in the correct manner as town. Why are you proposing the same anti-town idea here again? Just answer me and do not run in circles around the question.

I have no good read on Koshi yet.

I'll run in circles as I damn well please.
Am I scum or not, Rayn?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:39 GMT
#258
On August 20 2013 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?

In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now?

Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn.
Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC?
Hell, did I ever even mention it again?

It's not the point that you changed your mind in CCM.
The point is that you DID change your mind in CCM. I think townies learn from their mistakes (as it was a mistake to make the suggestion in CCM). It does not mean shit what you do now after you said we should not talk. The point is Why are you suggesting a same anti-town idea you mistakenly did in another game - why are you doing the same mistake you should have learned from in the last game?

The fact that you assume I haven't learned is disturbing to me, Rayn.
What do you think of Koshi, Rayn?

No, seriously. Why did you suggest that we should not talk? Why are you avoiding the question? I can clearly show from your filter in CCM that you did start scumhunting on N0 when hosts told you also roles can start acting then. You clearly thought you were wrong and staerted acting in the correct manner as town. Why are you proposing the same anti-town idea here again? Just answer me and do not run in circles around the question.

I have no good read on Koshi yet.

I'll run in circles as I damn well please.
Am I scum or not, Rayn?

Answer me so i can tell. If you do not answer me i am inclined to think yes you are.

Guess you've caught me, Rayn.
It's a new record!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:40 GMT
#259
On August 20 2013 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
WoS, stop being fucking retarded. Its annoying and bad.

No u.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:46 GMT
#265
On August 20 2013 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Are you trying to get everyone in the game to hate you WoS?
I did that before. I'm not doing it again.

Who hates me?
The difference between you and me is I won't get lynched for my play.
Stop contributing to my supposed delinquency by continuing to shit on me if you don't like what I'm doing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:48 GMT
#272
On August 20 2013 22:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:44 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:35 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you giving all this general Advice Onegu, that no one asked for?



Because I dont want some of the other people who are newer in the thread to listen to the other people without thinking because no one chalenges them.

Why?
Why dont you focus on finding scum instead of helping these unnamed people who I dont even know who. I assume you have a specific person in mind Onegu?



Mostly rainbows, but there are some other people who I dont know or are recently out of newbies.

Why would rainbows or any of these dudes need your advice? Did you see an example that without your advice, they would believe these things which are clearly wrong?



Look I dont care if they take my opinion or not, but I prefer if someone disagrees with something they dont just keep it to themselves even if it isnt scum hunting

yeah but you do not disagree. you agree with what people point out earlier.
that's the difference.



Wait what? I disagree with survior claim, disagree with not posting at night, and answer a question about lynching lurkers....

You're taking the the stance most 'accepted' in thread.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:48 GMT
#273
On August 20 2013 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
WoS is scum guys.


I thought Rayn already established that.
Why are you restating the obvious when nobody asked for it?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:50 GMT
#275
On August 20 2013 22:49 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:44 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:35 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you giving all this general Advice Onegu, that no one asked for?



Because I dont want some of the other people who are newer in the thread to listen to the other people without thinking because no one chalenges them.

Why?
Why dont you focus on finding scum instead of helping these unnamed people who I dont even know who. I assume you have a specific person in mind Onegu?



Mostly rainbows, but there are some other people who I dont know or are recently out of newbies.

Why would rainbows or any of these dudes need your advice? Did you see an example that without your advice, they would believe these things which are clearly wrong?



Look I dont care if they take my opinion or not, but I prefer if someone disagrees with something they dont just keep it to themselves even if it isnt scum hunting

so whos scum??



We are only 5 pages in but right now WoS is the person I am looking at the most.


On August 20 2013 22:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 22:47 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:44 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:35 Onegu wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you giving all this general Advice Onegu, that no one asked for?



Because I dont want some of the other people who are newer in the thread to listen to the other people without thinking because no one chalenges them.

Why?
Why dont you focus on finding scum instead of helping these unnamed people who I dont even know who. I assume you have a specific person in mind Onegu?



Mostly rainbows, but there are some other people who I dont know or are recently out of newbies.

Why would rainbows or any of these dudes need your advice? Did you see an example that without your advice, they would believe these things which are clearly wrong?



Look I dont care if they take my opinion or not, but I prefer if someone disagrees with something they dont just keep it to themselves even if it isnt scum hunting

yeah but you do not disagree. you agree with what people point out earlier.
that's the difference.



Wait what? I disagree with survior claim, disagree with not posting at night, and answer a question about lynching lurkers....

You're taking the the stance most 'accepted' in thread.


lololololol
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 20 2013 13:55 GMT
#282
Rayn, my jimmies remain delightfully unrustled.

YAY DP!
Have you caught up yet?
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#287
On August 20 2013 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS be honest with me please. Are you going to answer me or not?
If you are, good.
If you are not, i can make the case right now and then there is no way back.

I don't respond to threats, Rayn.
Whatever I am going to do, I was going to do from the very beginning.
Go ahead and make a case.
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#313
On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit.

But I am the self aware miller guy.

Rayn, tell me this doesn't look like Koshi was freaking out a little in the scum QT and no one was holding him back from making a retarded claim this time.
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August 20 2013 14:30 GMT
#320
On August 20 2013 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would Koshi freak out if we both were scum? Because DP is accusing him for nothing?

When did I say you were scum? I've seen Koshi's scum QTs and I know how he gets when under any suspicion at all.
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August 20 2013 14:34 GMT
#325
I honestly can't think of another reason Koshi claimed other than he's worried about the pressure he's under.
I've claimed late as a self-aware miller before and it wasn't an issue because my earlier play and continuing play was easily able to assure the rest of town I was town.

On August 20 2013 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 20 2013 23:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would Koshi freak out if we both were scum? Because DP is accusing him for nothing?

When did I say you were scum? I've seen Koshi's scum QTs and I know how he gets when under any suspicion at all.

Elaborate please?

Rayn. You were just in this fucking game. GoT where kita fakeclaimed to try and get Koshi to reveal himself? Do you honestly need to me to post scum QT logs that you yourself have?
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August 20 2013 14:41 GMT
#335
Oh LOL it was the other way around haha.
I guess I misremembered.
I have to rethink what I've said about Koshi now especially in light of his bad breadcrumbing (I've dont this pretty poorly before as well).
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August 20 2013 14:44 GMT
#339
On August 20 2013 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hows self-aware-miller breadcrumbing possible? There's no way. Koshi scumclaimed for absolutely no reason.
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On August 20 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also let go of Koshi, he is town.

Somebody remind me whether its town or scum who know the alignment of all players at the start of the game.

It's totally possible Sn0, I've done it. Badly.
Let me dig up the game and the posts.

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August 20 2013 14:48 GMT
#344
Here this is from LXI.
On April 22 2013 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 22 2013 05:20 grush57 wrote:
Also hello everyone!
STARSENSES
(not again :O )

On April 21 2013 17:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
At this point I need to come with something like Starsenses since I roll town every single fucking game. Grush help me come up with something!

abyssal passion?

Idk why we let ppl waste time with setup discussion and millers. like ITS SCUM DISTRACTIONS BRO.

However d1 is stupid so, hopeless?

Millers totes important, bro.
Hey Marv/Geript, still looking for an answer to my question you've so conveniently ignored.

On April 28 2013 06:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 28 2013 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha knew this was coming. You're welcome to vig me if it will clear up your suspicions; it appears I've been wrong a lot of this game. Just make sure you vig me and don't waste the lynch I suppose.

Oh and don't bother not vigging and trying to DT check me because I'm self-aware miller. You guys need to decide if you don't trust me and want me gone or not.


On April 28 2013 06:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah Sharrant I was trying to mention miller as much as possible without getting involved in the discussion to see if anyone would pick up on it, but I've never been able to crumb properly so lol.


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August 20 2013 14:54 GMT
#351
On August 20 2013 23:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
@WoS: "Hey look at examples where I failed in previous games" is not a valid thread contribution...

Maybe that came across wrong, but I don't terribly care how badly you failed at breadcrumbing in the past. In a simple mini setup like this, there is simply no way self aware miller shouldn't immediately outright claim. Something I'll admit I didn't know in my only SAM game but that was a Newbie. And we had already established this with Koshi reading LONG before he claimed.

It means I can identify with the thought process somewhat if he's actually town. What I am having trouble with is the timing of his claim. If you're going to claim like 3 hours into the game, why bother hiding it at all?
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August 20 2013 14:58 GMT
#357
See, Sn0, it's posts like this that made me post my previous game.

On August 20 2013 23:55 DarthPunk wrote:
No. This is retarded. If someone tells everyone to claim miller immediately multiple times and then doesn't claim immediately. They are fucking scum. I don't care what he posts afterwards. He was ALSO UNDER DURESS WHEN HE MADE THE MILLER CLAIM. This is not a claim free of suspicion, with adequate breadcrumbs or a straight up claim.

He had to go look for a breadcrumb ffs. Which was just posts of him SAYING MILLERS SHOULD INSTA CLAIM.

I have no fucking idea how rayn could possibly think he is town. or that anyone would ever give him the benefit of the doubt.


I already showed how a late self-aware miller claim is possible in the fact of people calling for a claim immediately.

I do agree that Koshi's claim is far worse than what I did for your reasons and my earlier one, but the point remains that it is possible Koshi could be town.
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August 20 2013 14:59 GMT
#359
EBWOP: in the face of.
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August 20 2013 15:00 GMT
#360
Oh speaking of cases, that reminds me.
Rayn where's your case on me?
Was your threat an empty attempt to get me to explain myself?
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#372
On August 21 2013 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 20 2013 23:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
So why would scum Rayn, at least 5 games further on from CCM, post that DP?

Because he wanted to say something and the easiest thing to say as scum is some stupid policy that everyone discuss' for pages and pages.

Like If he had just said 'oh yeah. I have learnt and have grown as a player and changed my mind' I would have dropped it. But he tried to align both positions and directly contradicts his previous position as justification for that position.

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On August 20 2013 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats my point basically is that in semi-open setup miller claims help town more than in closed setups (assumably, when looking at the possible roles). Also knowing what the stance was in CCM and considering what Ace said after the game about the claiming thing i made my proposition. Also if millers claim they should definitely claim on N0 (not like someone did in LXI - claimed somewhere around D2).

Now if you are town go find real scum, like WoS.

I have been looking for real scum, thanks for acknwoledging that, Rayn.
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August 20 2013 15:27 GMT
#394
On August 21 2013 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also WoS is perfectly aware of this but has zero motivation of defending Koshi.

I already talked about it if you look at my filter.
I don't agree just because of that that he is town, but I am certainly not convinced of him being scum anymore.

Fair warning: I am finally moving back home today after 4 months with a teething child. My activity for the rest of today may be sporadic, especially since we have yet to get internet set up.
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#547
On August 21 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nonono. nobody discuss the setup now. we find scum, we are doin g so good already with no stupid setup talk after we got the discussion going!!

Catching up a little.
Hey Rayn, who got the discussion going?
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#550
On August 21 2013 04:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 21 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nonono. nobody discuss the setup now. we find scum, we are doin g so good already with no stupid setup talk after we got the discussion going!!

Catching up a little.
Hey Rayn, who got the discussion going?

I am going out soon. That's irrelevant.
You should defend and then scumhunt.

Actually it's completely relevant and the long-awaited answer to your question, like it or not.
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August 20 2013 20:00 GMT
#552
Rayn why exactly ARE you pushing so hard for someone to vig me tonight?
Why are you so concerned with my explanation exactly and got all mad when I didn't feel like answering you?

I hate to admit this but Oats is the one making the most sense atm.
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#554
On August 21 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 21 2013 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn why exactly ARE you pushing so hard for someone to vig me tonight?
Why are you so concerned with my explanation exactly and got all mad when I didn't feel like answering you?

I hate to admit this but Oats is the one making the most sense atm.

I am being honest with you right now. You can't possibly convince me that you are town any more. That ship sailed already, if you can't see why, i do not care. You should know how i play, you should know i WILL be tunneling you if you don't answer my questions. I was even fair and gave you.. not one.. not two, but at least three possibilities (i asked REALLY nice) to answer me, and i would have been perfectly fine with you if you gave me a reasonable answer. You did not. You need to convince others.

I am sorry if you are town but you are not playing for the town and i am convinced you are mafia, i want you shot. If you are not shot, i want you lynched. Period.

There is no reason for you to talk to me or vice versa.

If this is true then you must be scum because I have never seen you play like this.
Town do not tunnel anyone into oblivion without reconsidering when new information comes to light or attempting to think up possibilities from multiple angles.

I remain completely unthreatened by you; if you so choose to ignore me for the rest of the game, by all means continue to do so but if you can't figure out why that's anti-town then you are contradicting yourself heavily. I don't need to convince you that I'm town, I need to find scum.
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August 20 2013 20:12 GMT
#556
Actually re-reading my post I should clarify.
I have never seen you play like this as scum OR town. The fact that you would assume that a town Wave should know this is how you would act as town is what makes you look scummy for having this attitude. I have an idea as to exactly why you're pushing so hard to have me vig shot at night as well and it fits perfectly with the way you've been playing thus far.

I should also mention the old tried-and-true 'first person to heavily push Wave is scum' heuristic. 80% of the time it works every time.
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#557
On August 21 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
As i said i am going to convince everyone that you are mafia. You should work on the opposite as i do not need to convince you you are mafia.

Well you're doin' a shit job there so far buddeh.
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August 20 2013 20:15 GMT
#559
I assume most people agree that there is town motivation for Rayn pushing me as hard as he has been, as well as his relentlessly pushing me to answer his question regarding why I said what I did about 'no-talking' on N0.

Are people considering scum motivations behind such actions?
I want to see if anyone else can figure this out before I do a little revelation. Again, I'll be on sporadically so it may not happen until later but by gum, it WILL happen.
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August 20 2013 20:25 GMT
#561
On August 21 2013 05:19 Koshi wrote:
I don't really see why not talking is pro town tbh. Like, scummers gonna scum and kill one of us anyway. Because we talk our doc/cop/vigi will know what to do. But rayn has another explanation for why you are scum. Not being able to answer the question because you panicked, while as town you already gave the answer.

imo you were just mad because I sniffed out you were the scum RB and were being mean to rayn because of that.

Your last sentence...wtf?
There's a difference between not being able to answer a question and not wanting to. I don't really give a shit if Rayn threatens or tunnels me until doomsday, I have reasons for playing the way I do and I'll be damned if I'll be bullied into changing my play just because a scummer (and a few measly sheep) say so.
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August 20 2013 20:26 GMT
#564
On August 21 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If WoS claims something shoot him regardless. That does not make him town.

Haha you're just digging yourself a neat little hole, aren't you?
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August 20 2013 20:28 GMT
#565
Sn0 where do you believe Rayn scumslipped? I don't see it.
I'm still interested to see if anyone can answer my question about Rayn's motivations though.
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August 20 2013 23:22 GMT
#581
Hai fooba dooba!
<3

You're somewhere in the middle of hot and cold right now. Good to see there are some people left to actually do some critical thinking.
Koshi busy shitposting like crazy, Onegu sheeping thread sentiment wherever it goes...

Geript, do you think Rayn is town? Obviously we've come to the same conclusion that he is not playing the way a towny Rayn 'should' play. Are you assuming this is some sort of a gambit he is pulling? As far as Crazy goes, he is 100% new to this forum so his lurking is non-indicative to me. If we were to lurker (or policy) lynch I'd much rather get rid of kush.
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August 21 2013 01:17 GMT
#586
I'll get to what Rayn wanted from me yamato.
As for the rest of your reads: Vayne is mega lynchbait. Mega super ultra lynchbait. Flying under the radar for now is definitely something to note though. We'll see what D1 brings.

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.
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August 21 2013 01:23 GMT
#588
On August 21 2013 10:21 yamato77 wrote:
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On August 21 2013 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll get to what Rayn wanted from me yamato.
As for the rest of your reads: Vayne is mega lynchbait. Mega super ultra lynchbait. Flying under the radar for now is definitely something to note though. We'll see what D1 brings.

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.

I don't like the "he's lynchbait" defense, tbh. Nor would I consider Vayne "lynchbait" from what I've seen.

It's not a defense, but in basically every game I've played with him (aside from maybe Nuclear?) he's looked scummy as all hell and played like ass and been town. There are better targets come D1. Rayn/Onegu look terrible to me right now, and Koshi's shitposting is new to me---he doesn't normally play like this. I don't know what it means.

I'd also like to figure out what the deal is with DP.
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August 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#593
On August 21 2013 10:25 yamato77 wrote:
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On August 21 2013 10:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:21 yamato77 wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll get to what Rayn wanted from me yamato.
As for the rest of your reads: Vayne is mega lynchbait. Mega super ultra lynchbait. Flying under the radar for now is definitely something to note though. We'll see what D1 brings.

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.

I don't like the "he's lynchbait" defense, tbh. Nor would I consider Vayne "lynchbait" from what I've seen.

It's not a defense, but in basically every game I've played with him (aside from maybe Nuclear?) he's looked scummy as all hell and played like ass and been town. There are better targets come D1. Rayn/Onegu look terrible to me right now, and Koshi's shitposting is new to me---he doesn't normally play like this. I don't know what it means.

I'd also like to figure out what the deal is with DP.

Let's talk about Onegu. I didn't really notice anything noteworthy from him. What makes his play this game different from his play in GoT? Seems similar.

It's the incessant sheeping of thread sentiment that bothers me. I can honestly say despite hosting GoT I didn't follow it extremely closely. Did he do the same thing?
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August 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#596
On August 21 2013 10:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On August 21 2013 10:24 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll get to what Rayn wanted from me yamato.
As for the rest of your reads: Vayne is mega lynchbait. Mega super ultra lynchbait. Flying under the radar for now is definitely something to note though. We'll see what D1 brings.

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.

He's lynchbait when he's actively trying to look scummy though. In this game, I'm seeing a different Vayne than usual. I don't really agree with yamato's thought process, but do think Vayne would be a decent lynch.


I probably say this at least once a game:

Judge me by my actions not by my meta. I RNG my personality for every single game, so it's fruitless to attempt to do so. You will only end up disappointed.

It's N0 so chill, we aren't even working towards a lynch atm.

Tell that to Rayn and all the people agreeing that me mentioning not talking makes me scum. (of which there don't appear to be too many anymore, despite what bullshit Rayn may spew)

Vayne every time I judge you by your actions I get pissed because most of the time you don't do shit. Which makes you look scummy. And then most of the time you're not.

Hence the lynchbait.
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August 21 2013 01:34 GMT
#597
On August 21 2013 10:28 yamato77 wrote:
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On August 21 2013 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:25 yamato77 wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:21 yamato77 wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll get to what Rayn wanted from me yamato.
As for the rest of your reads: Vayne is mega lynchbait. Mega super ultra lynchbait. Flying under the radar for now is definitely something to note though. We'll see what D1 brings.

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.

I don't like the "he's lynchbait" defense, tbh. Nor would I consider Vayne "lynchbait" from what I've seen.

It's not a defense, but in basically every game I've played with him (aside from maybe Nuclear?) he's looked scummy as all hell and played like ass and been town. There are better targets come D1. Rayn/Onegu look terrible to me right now, and Koshi's shitposting is new to me---he doesn't normally play like this. I don't know what it means.

I'd also like to figure out what the deal is with DP.

Let's talk about Onegu. I didn't really notice anything noteworthy from him. What makes his play this game different from his play in GoT? Seems similar.

It's the incessant sheeping of thread sentiment that bothers me. I can honestly say despite hosting GoT I didn't follow it extremely closely. Did he do the same thing?

IDK about sheeping, but he definitely seemed fixated on the setup early like he was this game. What makes you think he's so sheepish this game?

On August 20 2013 22:25 Onegu wrote:
Agrees that my post is bad after someone else mentioned it.
Yeah the not talking n0 is terrible, scum are still going to shoot the person they feel is most dangerous to them, and we get no info to go on to actually find scum. So we just waste one of our better townies for nothing.


Agrees with Koshi's posting looking shitty and that Rayn looks towny.
On August 21 2013 00:04 Onegu wrote:
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On August 20 2013 23:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
N0 starts officially a disaster. Scum located but we can't lynch him for 72 hours.

PS Onegu did the disappear thing.



Nah Im here I have a sick kid I am watching but Im still here.

Yeah no idea why he wouldnt claim right away. Looks really bad, and his breadcrumb isnt really a breadcrumb. Going to look over his filter now. Also not seeimg rayne as scum yet. Dont agree with the whole survivor thing but the way he pressured WoS looks townie.


Changes his mind about Koshi after other people mention that he wouldn't claim under pressure.
On August 21 2013 00:31 Onegu wrote:
The more I think about it the more I am leaning town on koshi, he wouldnt make the claim under pressure as scum, and if he was scum why not until the end of the night if he was going to wait to claim is scum to make sure he wasnt going to get counter claimed. While his timing doesnt make much sense I dont think it makes much sense for scum either.

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August 21 2013 01:35 GMT
#598
EBWOP:
On August 21 2013 10:28 yamato77 wrote:
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On August 21 2013 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:25 yamato77 wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:21 yamato77 wrote:
On August 21 2013 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll get to what Rayn wanted from me yamato.
As for the rest of your reads: Vayne is mega lynchbait. Mega super ultra lynchbait. Flying under the radar for now is definitely something to note though. We'll see what D1 brings.

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.

I don't like the "he's lynchbait" defense, tbh. Nor would I consider Vayne "lynchbait" from what I've seen.

It's not a defense, but in basically every game I've played with him (aside from maybe Nuclear?) he's looked scummy as all hell and played like ass and been town. There are better targets come D1. Rayn/Onegu look terrible to me right now, and Koshi's shitposting is new to me---he doesn't normally play like this. I don't know what it means.

I'd also like to figure out what the deal is with DP.

Let's talk about Onegu. I didn't really notice anything noteworthy from him. What makes his play this game different from his play in GoT? Seems similar.

It's the incessant sheeping of thread sentiment that bothers me. I can honestly say despite hosting GoT I didn't follow it extremely closely. Did he do the same thing?

IDK about sheeping, but he definitely seemed fixated on the setup early like he was this game. What makes you think he's so sheepish this game?

Agrees that my post is bad after someone else mentioned it.
On August 20 2013 22:25 Onegu wrote:

Yeah the not talking n0 is terrible, scum are still going to shoot the person they feel is most dangerous to them, and we get no info to go on to actually find scum. So we just waste one of our better townies for nothing.


Agrees with Koshi's posting looking shitty and that Rayn looks towny.
On August 21 2013 00:04 Onegu wrote:
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On August 20 2013 23:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
N0 starts officially a disaster. Scum located but we can't lynch him for 72 hours.

PS Onegu did the disappear thing.



Nah Im here I have a sick kid I am watching but Im still here.

Yeah no idea why he wouldnt claim right away. Looks really bad, and his breadcrumb isnt really a breadcrumb. Going to look over his filter now. Also not seeimg rayne as scum yet. Dont agree with the whole survivor thing but the way he pressured WoS looks townie.


Changes his mind about Koshi after other people mention that he wouldn't claim under pressure.
On August 21 2013 00:31 Onegu wrote:
The more I think about it the more I am leaning town on koshi, he wouldnt make the claim under pressure as scum, and if he was scum why not until the end of the night if he was going to wait to claim is scum to make sure he wasnt going to get counter claimed. While his timing doesnt make much sense I dont think it makes much sense for scum either.

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#612
Alright, Rayn.
Enough.
What is it you were trying to accomplish by now, because it seems it either hasn't worked and you're trying way too hard to get there, or you're being genuinely ridiculous.
If there was once a time where people would have listened to you, that time is long past now---but it seems to me you're doing it on purpose.

What's the deal, buddeh.
You can tell me.
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#615
On August 21 2013 11:04 kushm4sta wrote:
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On August 21 2013 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:

I HAVE mentioned I would be fine to shoot/policy lynch kush btw.


WHA TTHE FUCK!!!! what teh fuck did i do.... i decide to read the newest two pages and come up with this shit.
like dude I am reading the thread, giving my thughts as a read htem. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO POLICU LYNCH ME I DID NOTHING

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#620
Haha this brings me back to Ego mafia. It's the only other time I've seen Rayn act so unbelievably retarded.
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#646
On August 21 2013 11:22 FirmTofu wrote:
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On August 21 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha this brings me back to Ego mafia. It's the only other time I've seen Rayn act so unbelievably retarded.

I trust you haven't read Titanic? Bless your soul.

FT he did this in Titanic as well?
What was the outcome/what was he trying to accomplish?
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#655
On August 21 2013 11:33 FirmTofu wrote:
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On August 21 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 11:22 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 21 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha this brings me back to Ego mafia. It's the only other time I've seen Rayn act so unbelievably retarded.

I trust you haven't read Titanic? Bless your soul.

FT he did this in Titanic as well?
What was the outcome/what was he trying to accomplish?

He was a claimed cop. He drunk posted to push mislynches. I still don't know why. It filled up the thread fast. I think Titanic had around the same amount of pages as GoT when there were only 14 players.

Alright yeah it seems to fit his drunkposting fiasco in Ego---no particular rhyme or reason behind it.
Aaaaanyway, now that I have you here FT, who is scum?
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#657
On August 21 2013 11:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 21 2013 11:33 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 21 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 11:22 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 21 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha this brings me back to Ego mafia. It's the only other time I've seen Rayn act so unbelievably retarded.

I trust you haven't read Titanic? Bless your soul.

FT he did this in Titanic as well?
What was the outcome/what was he trying to accomplish?

He was a claimed cop. He drunk posted to push mislynches. I still don't know why. It filled up the thread fast. I think Titanic had around the same amount of pages as GoT when there were only 14 players.

Alright yeah it seems to fit his drunkposting fiasco in Ego---no particular rhyme or reason behind it.
Aaaaanyway, now that I have you here FT, who is scum?

I just reread you and you came up with a bunch of reads---who is your primary scumread and why?
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August 21 2013 02:37 GMT
#658
EBWOP: The above is @FT. that was a dumb quote.
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#662
I don't want to talk about Rayn at all anymore. This may be exactly what he wants at this point but I honestly don't care.

I could lynch Onegu atm. I should probably read into some of the players I haven't looked at yet like Rainbows (who I know is a competent player).

FT who is your PRIMARY scumread? That is, who do you want to lynch tomorrow? And what meta tells you that Geript and Vayne are scum? I don't see how either of them have really posted enough tot ell you anything.
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#665
On August 21 2013 11:45 DarthPunk wrote:
What the hell is happening to rayn?

See Ego and apparently Titanic? He's probably drunk.
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#676
Rayn your words are hurtful.
</3
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#680
Honestly Rayn, I will get you modkilled and not feel guilty about it whatsoever.
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#683
DP I read Rainbows---the only thing I got out of it is his seeming...i dunno...eagerness to drop the scumread on Sn0 since it wasn't being picked up in thread?

I don't think I'm seeing what you see though.
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#687
I started to read through Sn0's filter but I think that's going to require some actual thought and a little more time on my part.

In the meantime since Geript so nicely brought up that my 'let's not talk N0' post was bullshit, guess what?

It was.

I didn't really have much of an overarching plan going into that post but I did want to see how various people reacted to it.
Geript brings up a good point about Crazy---problem is he's apparently new (at least to TL, I don't know about mafia in general).

Fuba sees right through me though, and I fucking love playing with this guy.
On August 21 2013 08:05 mkfuba07 wrote:
@WoS: I assume you're implying that you breadcrumbed something about your role (which I would presume is veteran, due to the emphasis on rayn wanting a shot used on you), and you believe rayn found it and is trying to take advantage of that situation to get rid of a vig shot (if there is one), the veteran (if you are it), and your usual town play in one night. I guess you could be any blue role in this situation, but since you emphasized rayn wanting you shot (as opposed to lynched tomorrow) I guessed veteran. I probably overlooked something, but I try (with limited success) to not speculate on things I have no way of knowing.

Hot/cold?

What are your thoughts on Rainbows?

He's sort of got the thought process right, though with a few details that are wrong.
First of all I didn't breadcrumb anything: I will claim right here.
I am sadly but a simple VT.
My play though certainly looked like blue play, wouldn't you say? As a blue I certainly don't want to draw attention to myself on the first night so I can put whatever ability I've got to good use---I suppose in that way you could call my 'not talking at night' post a breadcrumb, albeit a fake one.
I make my post and the thread direction abruptly changes---Rayn begins to incessantly push me from that point on.

On August 20 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 20 2013 22:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?

In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now?

Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn.
Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC?
Hell, did I ever even mention it again?

It's not the point that you changed your mind in CCM.
The point is that you DID change your mind in CCM. I think townies learn from their mistakes (as it was a mistake to make the suggestion in CCM). It does not mean shit what you do now after you said we should not talk. The point is Why are you suggesting a same anti-town idea you mistakenly did in another game - why are you doing the same mistake you should have learned from in the last game?

The fact that you assume I haven't learned is disturbing to me, Rayn.
What do you think of Koshi, Rayn?

No, seriously. Why did you suggest that we should not talk? Why are you avoiding the question? I can clearly show from your filter in CCM that you did start scumhunting on N0 when hosts told you also roles can start acting then. You clearly thought you were wrong and staerted acting in the correct manner as town. Why are you proposing the same anti-town idea here again? Just answer me and do not run in circles around the question.

I have no good read on Koshi yet.

Why am I avoiding the question? Not only do I not want to reveal my mini-gambit this early as it is generating good discussion (and not only do I doubt a tunnely Rayn would even bother to believe me at this point since it is apparent in thread that he has 'found scum'), but I don't want to explain it's because I as a 'blue' do not want my identity revealed.

Now Rayn is a smart player. He knows something is up obviously. The thing is, what he is doing?
It's scum bluefishing. Not scumhunting.
This is exactly why he calls for a vig shot---if he can paint the blue towny as scum then the scumteam doesn't even have to waste a shot. If I'm vet they can RB me and I'll die as well.

Have doubts that he is scum simply bluefishing under the guise of tunnel town?
On August 21 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If WoS claims something shoot him regardless. That does not make him town.

I have no blue role to claim but he has already thought ahead of time that I will attempt to use it to get myself out long before it is necessary.

He knows exactly what I was thinking with my earlier comment. His joke of a case (which basically amounts to me being mad at me for not answering him lolol) is a sham to hide the fact that he expected me to defend myself with the defense he listed at the bottom of his case, when in fact that is an absolutely shit defense and he would have very likely called me out on it for such.
On August 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is why WaveofShadow is mafia:

This is one of the first posts from him in CCM:
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On May 13 2013 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I also don't think I've ever played with a N0 before. Can't remember.
Will there be a mafia NK tonight aside from possible power role use?

Because if so why are we giving mafia possible targets by talking..? (I guess they could probably knock off known strong players anyway but still.)

(Here is a link to the post for the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407685&currentpage=11#210 )

After that, when hosts confirm that roles can also act on N0, WoS retracts from his stance and starts scumhunting. If you read the game from that point on it can clearly be seen.

This is what i call WoS out for:
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On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?


WoS does not want to answer me, he keeps dodging the question, and this is all i get out of him:
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On August 20 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS, in CCM you dropped the "let's not talk on N0" as soon as you were told the roles can act aswell. You were town.
Why do you take the same approach "let's do not talk" in this game?

What's different about the way I'm acting in this game and in that one thus far?

In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now?

Show me how my play is different from my play in CC, Rayn.
Did I ever mention anything about changing my mind when I made the 'let's not talk' statement in CC?
Hell, did I ever even mention it again?

Look at the answer. He is saying "look, i am playing to my town meta as i played the same way in CCM".

The answer i was looking for (in case he was town was in this post (from CCM):
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On May 13 2013 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH you and I are on seemingly exact wavelengths this game. Not sure what to make of that.

I wasn't sure as to whether or not kita was town or scum but I know he was a good kill for mafia. DP not so much due to thread sentiment, but I do believe they were likely both scum NKs, no vig involved. Personally if scum were thinking like me I think they'd basically assume DP was town and that town KNEW he was town; and letting him get away as an active (assume-confirmed) townie is a no-no as scum. I'm not sure it was a good play as scum though since it essentially destroys any hope of them trying to secure the miller mislynch today, especially since there were definitely some townies who may have been on board for that, but DP is a valuable townie so we're at a loss for sure in the end.

This is essentially why I was wondering whether it was a good idea to bother starting up conversation before the N0 NKs; it essentially assured the mafia that kita/DP would be good first kills due to their activity. It's probable that other strong townies will pop up as the game goes on but the two of them painted massive targets on their backs imo.

This is a perfectly fine explanation for his behaviour. Why does he not say that here, in this game? Why is he not trying to explain why town!WoS would bring that "let's not talk on N0" stuff again?

Answer is:
- Because he is mafia and he is trying to play the "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game".
- He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough.
- If he was town he could, should and would explain himself.


Lynch D1. Or better, vig N0.

Why would I use the exact same explanation for a bad post in a second game when he himself says he expects that I should have learned from the first time I did it? Ridiculous.

Another point I have already stated earlier---the way he was playing when he stated he was going to ignore me and everything I say because I didn't take him up on the chances he gave me---is that good town play in any way?

The post is a little disjointed but everything in here points to Rayn scum.

Discuss accordingly, especially those of you who view Rayn to be town. DP I'm looking at you.
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#688
On August 21 2013 12:37 kushm4sta wrote:
k im done reading!

I want to lynch either FIRMTOFU or ONEGU

FT all he has done really is made this post:
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On August 21 2013 10:04 FirmTofu wrote:
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My overall thoughts:

WoS and geript seem to have some sort of mutual camaraderie based on past games and the friendship they have formed through their hydra. Therefore, you can expect them to play irrationally when speaking of one another. I think we should make note of this.

WoS is a real funnybunny. I don't like any of his opinions on how to handle N0. On this topic, rayn wins the argument handily. Remaining quiet on N0 is definitely mafia-favored play. There is no reason to silence ourselves when discussion is the greatest asset we have. However, I don't think this is as damning as rayn says it is. WoS looks scummy, sure, but his play is equally likely to be bad town as it is to be scum.

Geript's meta indicates that geript may be scum this game. Town geript usually attacks and pushes like a monster. Geript this game has been relatively subdued.

Vayne is not posting much and is not looking particularly scummy. Knowing Vayne, this is quite odd. Town Vayne usually likes to look scummy so that he won't get NK'd until endgame. Vayne in this game looks nothing like town Vayne.

Koshi is looking scummy and stupid. Whenever Koshi looks scummy and stupid, he flips town. See: Titanic and all of his other town games. Whenever he is spot on with his reads and looks like he knows what he is doing, he flips scum. At best, he's a good vigi shot right now. Lynching him is not a good course of action.

Kush is basically Koshi divided by 2. He just posts less, but his playstyle is very similar. Thus, he is also probably not the best lynch right now.

After GoT, I'm not sure how to read rayn anymore. I thought I had him figured out after Titanic and his scum play in I Swear 2, but he played a solid scum game in GoT and threw me off. For the time being, he remains a volatile player that is more likely to hurt town than help it. I would not mind a vig shot on him, but I am finding it hard to read him right now. Saving for later.

That's all I want to talk about for now. If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to let you know.


basically he is saying everyone is sort of scummy for vague meta reasons. ok



ONEGU
I want to lynch him for his constant regurgitation of thread sentiment. He never expresses any idea that has not already been expressed.
GUIZ HE'S WATCHING HIS SICK KID! like that is some sort of excuse? That means you should have more free time not less. Sick kid you sit them in front of the TV or something gg.

Yeah Kush...he legitimately has a very ill child in his care. He is constantly in and out of hospital both for himself and for his kid. His excuse is not alignment indicative in my opinion (no room for dick move analysis imo because of the way it was used).
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#691
On August 21 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah lets lynch sn0 dude.

Not rayn, not WoS.

WoS, rayn not picking up on your gambit doesnt make him scum. As you can see, I was also not too happy that you were not answering questions about that post. So am I scum too?

Except did you assume I was scum simply because I didn't want to answer questions about it?
I honestly don't see what is scum-aligned about that in the slightest and Rayn KNOWS that.
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#692
On August 21 2013 12:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
The only other time WoS played all trolly like this and tried to go for big plays was when he was survivor so that honestly only solidifies my 3rd party read on him =/

Uh...what big plays did I go for in Basterd?
If you recall that game, my hand was essentially forced in everything I did. Massclaim meant I had to use the only fakeclaim provided to me.

Come on Vayne, I thought you were starting to be useful. I really liked your last post.
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#693
Oh and also for the record, Rayn's shitposting in Ego was not due to him being drunk, or at the very least he didn't admit to it in that game---I know there's a reason I remember it that way though and I'm not sure why.
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August 21 2013 03:59 GMT
#694
Playing a game of LoL or two with VE.
I will get to Sn0 before I go to bed as I won't be around for deadline in the morning.
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#697
Wat.
How are those two things the same thing at all?
He is calling me SCUM.
I didn't call you scum necessarily I just wanted you gone because you weren't doing shit.
Show me how I wasn't doing shit all day just because I didn't want to answer his measly questions.
Please.
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#704
On August 21 2013 14:49 kushm4sta wrote:
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why

lol and you wonder why I want you policy shot/lynched.
How in any way are you ever a useful member of a town?
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August 21 2013 15:12 GMT
#768
Alright guys I'm up.
Rayn are we done here? I will not be shitting up the thread with you today; there are far more important things to be done.
Not going to vote you either; I believe yamato/fuba/oats may have the right of it.
I fell asleep before I could properly look into Sn0_man, sorry.
It seems him and Rainbows may be the candidates for today?
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August 21 2013 15:28 GMT
#780
Rayn if I answer you this one time, will you stop shitting up the thread with this? You are effectively killing all other discussion and whether or not you think you've found scum, killing discussion is bad for town. Otherwise I have no reason to engage you.

Especially since you stated yesterday you were done talking to me, am I right?
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August 21 2013 15:42 GMT
#787
On August 22 2013 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 22 2013 00:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn if I answer you this one time, will you stop shitting up the thread with this? You are effectively killing all other discussion and whether or not you think you've found scum, killing discussion is bad for town. Otherwise I have no reason to engage you.

Especially since you stated yesterday you were done talking to me, am I right?

So you are not giving me a chance to try to get a better read on you (which in your opinion should be beneficial to town, if you are town)?

I am not killing discussion. I am trying to promote it by saying someone should bring up another suspect if they feel like you are not the best lynch.


You're right about that.
Fine, but I am not discussing or defending myself from you all day, I promise you that. I'm still in the middle of reading Sn0_Man.

The reason I brought up CCM is because I brought up 'no-talk' in there once early in the game and then didn't dwell on it after that. I fully planned on doing the exact same thing here but for different reasons (the ones I mentioned in my case)---I can honestly say I didn't expect to draw the 'AMG WAVE IS SCUM' attention I got from you right off the bat, and knowing you are a smart guy I figured if you were town you'd pick up on the fact that it was simply to get discussion going and see how people would react. If you look at how I reacted when you were grilling me incessantly, I was constantly trying to throw you off of me because I felt like you were ruining what I was attempting to do at the time. I don't feel like that makes sense to do as scum as it becomes incredibly obvious, but take that as you will. As far as being 'worried' about your threats of tunneling me if I don't answer you---I don't respond to threats. Ever. I didn't care then and I still don't care if you push me all day but I DO care if it's to the detriment of town (especially if you turn out to be scum which I at one point believed).

Listen Rayn go ahead and believe what you want about me referring to me CCM meta but if you remember correctly I was blue in CCM 'too' and was trying to bring across the same line of 'blue-thinking.' I REALLY figured you would pick up on this and when you stuck with it constantly and then even brought up me claiming to 'save myself' specifically in thread it set off HUGE alarm bells in my head because I believe a town Rayn would consider that I might be blue and not force me to 'out' myself.
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August 21 2013 15:51 GMT
#789
On August 22 2013 00:47 Koshi wrote:
WoS Your case on rayn was pretty bad right? Or did you believe everything you wrote when you wrote it?

There is nothing bad about it.
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August 21 2013 15:56 GMT
#793
On August 22 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I died early on in CCM, i do not follow games closely after i die. Hell i don't even know how half of the games ended i have played in. I have no idea if you were blue in CCM or not.

Why would i think you are blue here? I certainly do not think (even if you were blue in CCM) you are stupid enough to mimic your blue play so obviously (as you call it). As mafia it is more likely than as green, because you do not want to look scummy. Why would you want to look scummy to people?

If you are mafia in this situation you make an opening post, have a meta backup to provide. Maybe you even get some stupid townies to agree with your idea of no speaking.

I also do not understand why did you respond with your meta-argument, because the question had nothing to do with meta. If i put myself in your town!shoes i would tell me "i answer you when i feel like it", certainly not give an answer that has nothing to do with the question. I notice this kinda stuff.

I would also like to know when you concluded that i am scum bluehunting (that explanation smells fishy in the first place because the matter was discussed with me just a couple of days ago and i even told i also do bluehunt actively as town)?

I would also like to know how on earth the only thing you conclude from N0 thing you pulled off is that "rayn is bluehunting scum because he calls out my anti-town actions"? Really, nothing else?

Not nothing else.
I'll get to those eventually.
Rayn, I'm not going to defend myself all day from you.
I gave you an explanation, take it or leave it and move on.
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August 21 2013 20:47 GMT
#831
On August 22 2013 05:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 01:59 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 22 2013 01:57 Koshi wrote:
Who knows how DP plays?
I just checked his profile and seems like he has a 14-4 record. That is quite impressive but I have a hard time believing that the 4 guys that kush mentioned as possible scums went for him.

Anybody played a lot of games with DP?


what do you mean? why woulnd't that scumteam kill him?
I think any scumteam would have killed him regardless of his reads. I think he was by far the best town in the game.


anyone else find this post really suspicious?

Especially the last part.

I think he's right. I don't necessarily think he was the best town in this game, but it's certainly correct to assume scum would kill him off regardless of reads.
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August 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#832
Also I read Sn0, and I honestly can't make heads or tails of him right now. Where is he anyway?

His filter is full of him making strong accusations but the manner in which he does so is....disconcerting I guess?
Something is off and I don't know what it is.
Sn0 do you still think Koshi and Rayn are scum? An answer to this question I feel will be very important as to how the rest of the thread treats you today.

Right now I think I may just want to lynch Crazometer for his reaction to my 'no-talk' idea and the fact that he supposedly can't 'keep up' with me?

It looks like he's trying to make it seem like an attempt at putting effort/reads in when he hasn't commented on anything at all the entire game. I'm aware he's a lurker but it's what I got right now.

Also I remember having a bad feeling that kush is actually doing a little something this game---I remember reading a thread recently where he actually played a game and was mafia. (Like much in this game apparently, I may be misremembering though) Kush are you one of those players who hates rolling town?
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August 21 2013 20:55 GMT
#834
##Vote: Crazometer
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August 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#836
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.
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August 21 2013 21:22 GMT
#841
On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.


Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.

@mkfuba

in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.

Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?

your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.

Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?'

About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?
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August 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#881
On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 14:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 14:49 kushm4sta wrote:
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why

lol and you wonder why I want you policy shot/lynched.
How in any way are you ever a useful member of a town?



Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.


Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.

@mkfuba

in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.

Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?

your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.

Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?'

About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?


It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting.

Now wait a minute. Association reads are dumb on their own but are you insinuating that because I told fuba that I appreciated the fact that he somewhat caught on to what I was doing, we must both be scum?

Congratulations for coming up with what would be the absolute most retarded scumplay of all time.

I actually want to go back and consider those who decided both me and Rayn were town though---I think it was Yamato/Oats/Fuba? Usually a pretty decent scumplay to pull that 'voice of reason' shit and neither yamato nor Oats have done a hell of a lot this game so far.

Yamato, scumread?
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August 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#884
On August 22 2013 08:58 kushm4sta wrote:
you have scumreads yet yamato?

Oh shit I think kush is town.
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August 22 2013 00:10 GMT
#896
On August 22 2013 09:07 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba

On August 21 2013 14:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 14:49 kushm4sta wrote:
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why

lol and you wonder why I want you policy shot/lynched.
How in any way are you ever a useful member of a town?



On August 22 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.


Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.

@mkfuba

in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.

Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?

your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.

Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?'

About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?


It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting.

Now wait a minute. Association reads are dumb on their own but are you insinuating that because I told fuba that I appreciated the fact that he somewhat caught on to what I was doing, we must both be scum?

Congratulations for coming up with what would be the absolute most retarded scumplay of all time.

I actually want to go back and consider those who decided both me and Rayn were town though---I think it was Yamato/Oats/Fuba? Usually a pretty decent scumplay to pull that 'voice of reason' shit and neither yamato nor Oats have done a hell of a lot this game so far.

Yamato, scumread?


What? You didn't read those quotes, did you.

On August 22 2013 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba

It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting.

Hahaha so true. I keep rereading that "omg you understand me completely mkfuba" post by WoS. But there is probably nothing :D.

Yes, but the above was Koshi's post. Explain to me how your quotes show that fuba and I must be scum together and how that makes any sense in the face of me talking to fuba?

And FT, read my first post of today.
I didn't fully retract my case on Rayn, but no one seems to want to listen to me regarding him, and I didn't want to shit up yet another day's worth of thread trying to push him. I have reason to suspect him still but I want to see what else the thread brings. You can call my vote on Craz a safe placeholder for now if you want, since I wouldn't mind lynching him.
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August 22 2013 00:12 GMT
#899
On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.


Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town.

Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people.
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August 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#907
On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.


Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town.

Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people.


But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically.

The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum.
Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today.
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August 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#910
On August 22 2013 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.

rofl
As for the Rayn/WoS situation, I'm not sold on the WoS=scum theory. Rayn's entire case is based on the idea that a person should always play as they do as town given a similar situation. Funny enough, it is the SAME rationale DP used to accuse Rayn, yet was ultimately dropped. Do I need to explain why these meta reads are fucking terrible or can we all agree to stop being bad and scumhunt with more conventional means?

This is not opposing anything, this is:
1) misreading my resons to think WoS is mafia
2) casting doubt at multiple direction without taking any clear stance on anything.

There's a very clear stance. I don't think WoS is scum. Are you that thick?

Okay, if that is true why do you in the very same post question WoS about other stuff he has done? Do you usually like to question your townreads randomly? In a tone that does not even sound like you think they are town?

I question him because I don't think you're scum either?

Have you just not read my filter at all? Most people seem to understand that I've been attempting to get you two to stop arguing for most of the game.

Yet, on N0, you did absolutely nothing to tell either one of us why we are wrong. Regarding me giving false readings from the case itself does not make me stop. For WoS you telling him "rayn is too batshit insane to be mafia"is not going to be enough. You actually did not even try to stop us.

And for the record, Rayn hasn't stopped the entire game.
I stopped partway through N0 and stopped after entering thread today, completely independent of anyone else's efforts.
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August 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#912
On August 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.


Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town.

Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people.


But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically.

The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum.
Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today.

I'm leaning toward lynching Vayne. I've been waiting for him to become more involved in the thread but it just hasn't happened. His sideline commentary is easy to do as scum. He's also overly preoccupied with thinking that you are 3P. I have yet to see him become engaged with the thread and attempt to push any sort of scumread, quite unlike most of the people who have been considered today as lynch candidates.

Ugh. I seriously don't want to lynch Vayne. He constantly touts that he doesn't get mislynched ever but the fact remains that he is lynchbait all the damn time because of his play.

The problem is I want to say I'm fine to wait until D2 for him to be 'useful' like he says but he's said that before in other games and it doesn't happen. Hell, for all I know it could be a ploy to get some mafia play off tonight? (kinda unlikely but still) I don't think I'm likely to vote him today though.
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August 22 2013 00:26 GMT
#915
On August 22 2013 09:22 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.

rofl
As for the Rayn/WoS situation, I'm not sold on the WoS=scum theory. Rayn's entire case is based on the idea that a person should always play as they do as town given a similar situation. Funny enough, it is the SAME rationale DP used to accuse Rayn, yet was ultimately dropped. Do I need to explain why these meta reads are fucking terrible or can we all agree to stop being bad and scumhunt with more conventional means?

This is not opposing anything, this is:
1) misreading my resons to think WoS is mafia
2) casting doubt at multiple direction without taking any clear stance on anything.

There's a very clear stance. I don't think WoS is scum. Are you that thick?

Okay, if that is true why do you in the very same post question WoS about other stuff he has done? Do you usually like to question your townreads randomly? In a tone that does not even sound like you think they are town?

I question him because I don't think you're scum either?

Have you just not read my filter at all? Most people seem to understand that I've been attempting to get you two to stop arguing for most of the game.

Yet, on N0, you did absolutely nothing to tell either one of us why we are wrong. Regarding me giving false readings from the case itself does not make me stop. For WoS you telling him "rayn is too batshit insane to be mafia"is not going to be enough. You actually did not even try to stop us.

I told both of you that your reasons for thinking the other were scum were fallacious and argued this point multiple times. I don't understand how poor your reading comprehension is.

But why bother?
Rayn has made it perfectly clear that he feels like tunneling me all game long to the detriment of town atmosphere at times and says this is 'always' how he plays (even though it really isn't ---I have NEVER seen him tunnel a sole read to the bitter end like this). I personally believe this is a new 'persona' he's trying out for whatever reason. Not necessarily alignment indicative but it's not....'true' Rayn.

Anyway why bother engaging him if it won't make him stop?
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August 22 2013 00:28 GMT
#917
On August 22 2013 09:25 geript wrote:
@Rayn.... I'm tired of the WoS shit. You noted differences between games. I see that as meta. You talk about him not wanting to explain himself; having played a billion games with him, I see that as just something Daniel could do. As to him continuing to not engage you, I actually see that as a towny thing for him to do. In the last game we hydra'd he literally said "ITalk to your friend (JJD) b/c I'm done w/ him and his shit." I would completely understand him doing something similar here.

You still scum on Sn0?

Whoa whoa.
What is with the out-of-game/'RL friends'/emotional appeal? You bring up the example of JJD and you're right, but the ONLY time I've ever seen you do something like this is when you wanted JJD to know who you were and used his real name, as our town hydra.

This honestly looks like a crumb you're leaving for me to make me think that you're town specifically BECAUSE you did the same thing here.
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August 22 2013 00:37 GMT
#924
I don't necessarily think you're scum, breh. I'm just telling you what stood out about that post to me, and it just felt super weird. I've already mentioned I could lynch Crazy if that's where you're headed.

Onegu.... I don't know. Really want to see more from him because all that I remember of his early contributions were +1s of basically everything.
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August 22 2013 00:38 GMT
#925
On August 22 2013 09:37 kushm4sta wrote:
Hey I just had a great idea. Let's lynch rayne!

Ugh.
Kush, why? And where did this come from?
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August 22 2013 00:40 GMT
#930
On August 22 2013 09:39 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't necessarily think you're scum, breh. I'm just telling you what stood out about that post to me, and it just felt super weird. I've already mentioned I could lynch Crazy if that's where you're headed.

Onegu.... I don't know. Really want to see more from him because all that I remember of his early contributions were +1s of basically everything.

Yah I'm leaning Crazy right now but I need to filter a few more people. I'd rather lynch into the lurkers again right now.

Lol see it's this.
I feel like you know I'm going to have a weak spot for wanting to eliminate lurkers based on our last game...gaaaah.
I'm being paranoid now I think.
Carry on.
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August 22 2013 00:47 GMT
#936
I just realized there are a lot of people who haven't given definitive scumreads at this point. (ie 'who are you voting/would you vote for')
We're what, 36 hours into a game? Seems unacceptable imo. Fuba who would you lynch now that you dropped Rainbows?
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August 22 2013 00:49 GMT
#940
On August 22 2013 09:46 kushm4sta wrote:
We know Rayne is capable of this because of GoT

This isn't a reason to lynch him.
You know I don't exactly view Rayn in the best light right now---here is your chance. Convince me.
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August 22 2013 06:42 GMT
#969
Nah kush is town.
I feel better about my current vote choice now.
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August 22 2013 16:07 GMT
#1072
On August 23 2013 00:17 kushm4sta wrote:
HI! I'm pretty lost in this game atm. I mean I have done a lot of filter diving, metaing, but I am still pretty lost as to who is scum. I don't really have a single solid scumread.. so fail.

Onegu and whoever else might think I'm scum, I would be happy to respond to anything you wanna ask me with 100% truthfulness and honesty. But can you consolidate all your questions for me, because I don't feel like going back through the last 10 pages and finding all the random shit you flung me.

Catching up.
Come on, tell me this isn't town Kush. Onegu is it you gunning for him now?
Oh and for whoever asked a little while ago, the main reason I first found him town is we both asked for a scumread (from geript I believe) at the same time within context.
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August 22 2013 16:34 GMT
#1076
Ugh this is going to be one of those plurality lynches that lets mafia hide wherever they want, isn't it?
Since Crazometer's posting I'm not 100% sure of him being scum anymore. Could still vote him or maybe Onegu today---the strong sheeping of thread sentiment and jumping on my gambit early for weak reasons is bad and now he comes back and tries to push kush who is usually pretty good lynchbait and someone who wouldn't necessarily be able to defend himself particularly well. A 'safe' scumpick for vote if you will.

Activity won't be great until later this evening at which point I really think there should be some consolidation. Rayn will probably leave his vote on me no matter what happens---I don't like it but it's pretty much expected. I don't want a lynch going through with 3-4 votes though.
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August 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#1078
On August 23 2013 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of snoman's contributions on this phase so far?

Going out now.
Remind me to look at Sn0 again later but for now, weak as shit.
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August 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#1150
lol kush. Why can't you play like this all the time?
I gots to do some reading. Don't know if I'll get it all done now but again as promised my activity will pick up in the evening.
Also Rayn wtf you unvoted me?
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August 22 2013 19:57 GMT
#1155
Random thought from reading the thread just now I want to get donw before I forget:
Vayne your meta reads are shit bad. I must admit I suppose I haven't been caring as much about this game or been as active as usual, but the fact that you are mentioning Les Mis (and Rayn as well) as my SOLE scumgame as an example of meta play is frankly just awful. You're doing the same with Basterd---ONE game as 3P does not a meta make.

Who do you want to lynch?
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August 22 2013 20:02 GMT
#1160
On August 23 2013 05:01 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT)

Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me.

So the people who have voted you thus far are scum?
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August 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#1170
On August 23 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 04:59 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is a mislynch.

Rayne the lynch on WoS is not happening. The lynch on snoman is not happening. who do you want to lynch then?

you do not get to say what lynch is happening and what is not.
snoman is mafia, probably WoS aswell. We are lynching Snoman. FirmTofu is obviously town.

Trying so hard not to derail but somebody tell me this doesn't sound like a member of the scumteam trying to be the voice of dissent so if/when FT flips he looks good.

I've done it myself. I do agree that this isn't a good lynch however. Popped up WAY too fast and way too many people jumped on board when we barely had 2 people voting on any one person for the past 36 hours or so. Just doesn't feel good to me.
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August 22 2013 20:10 GMT
#1173
On August 23 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 05:01 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT)

Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me.

So the people who have voted you thus far are scum?

Why do you make shitty comments like this? Trying to make the town on the FT wagon feel better about their choice?

No, I am literally asking him to think about the statement he made and whether it makes sense.
So biased, Koshi. Real sad.
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August 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#1176
On August 23 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: In the very same post you do EXACTLY the same thing you are accusing me of.

Guess I must be scum, right?
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August 22 2013 20:12 GMT
#1177
On August 23 2013 05:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
@kush surprise surprise those are the 4 people I want to lynch most right now.

Incidentally, There is virtually NO chance a scum player as the current most likely lynch target would spew his scumbuddies like that in an attempt to improve their situation later, so free townie points for those 3. I think.

PS: geript is currently the recipient of a free ride I'm not sure he deserves. Geript is traditionally more active and aggressive in games i've played with him.

I can agree with this. Sn0 can you comment on the below for me?

On August 22 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 22 2013 09:25 geript wrote:
@Rayn.... I'm tired of the WoS shit. You noted differences between games. I see that as meta. You talk about him not wanting to explain himself; having played a billion games with him, I see that as just something Daniel could do. As to him continuing to not engage you, I actually see that as a towny thing for him to do. In the last game we hydra'd he literally said "ITalk to your friend (JJD) b/c I'm done w/ him and his shit." I would completely understand him doing something similar here.

You still scum on Sn0?

Whoa whoa.
What is with the out-of-game/'RL friends'/emotional appeal? You bring up the example of JJD and you're right, but the ONLY time I've ever seen you do something like this is when you wanted JJD to know who you were and used his real name, as our town hydra.

This honestly looks like a crumb you're leaving for me to make me think that you're town specifically BECAUSE you did the same thing here.

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August 22 2013 20:22 GMT
#1190
So where did Rainbows/fuba go now that they're not under scrutiny?
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#1193
On August 23 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 05:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
uh no
thats not backing it up.

Yes it is. FirmTofu says stupid stuff as town. Especially early on in the game. when he is attacked as mafia he tries his best to show his "towniness" and discredits the attacker and his arguments. He fights back. Town FirmTofu rolls over and dies, leaving his thoughts behind.

Notice Oats, what happens when kush unvotes? see? See what snoman and wos do. They drop their fucking scumread instantly and bring the rest of the town under scrutiny. That's fucking textbook scumplay. Cast doubt everywhere when the lynch we wanted does not go through. Do you see them seriously considering geript as suspect? rofl, that's a fucking soft accusation on a guy who is not gonna get lynched today either way.

Wat.
You're literally picking everything I do and calling it scummy to make it fit with your ideas and scumteam.
I could have just as easily voted for FT or pushed him if he is town as you are 100% sure of.

Rayn, your play this game has been fucking terrible. I know you are better than this. The last time someone tunneled me this hard and terribly was BH in Carnival Cruise and guess what his alignment was in that game? I will get you lynched, my friend, but not today.
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August 22 2013 20:36 GMT
#1195
Ugh I want to push you SO BAD but I really don't think I have enough to go on yet besides my earlier case.
It's ok you'll look worse when you don't die on N1---there is literally no one else in this game I could think of as a scummer who I would want to kill if you are truly town. And we all know I'm not going anywhere either. Scum may want to NK me but I'm just SUCH a juicy mislynch target, am I not?

(in b4 Vayne 3P comment on my above post)
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#1197
On August 23 2013 05:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've been pushing for action all game... WoS asked me a question and I gave him an answer.

I fail to see how everybody thinks that its OK for VA/FT to play terribly and excuse that as "Their town meta is to play awfully, when they are scum they play well". WTF IS THAT? We never lynch them when they look scummy only the other way around? Get out.

I'd also be happy to lynch rayn because AS I"VE SAID BEFORE he is trying to spam his way into control of the thread, in large part by shouting down anybody who disagrees with him. It just isn't town-motivated to do that. Doesn't help that Koshi is literally parroting everything rayn says and they literally back each other up on every tiny thing.

I agree with you somewhat, but would a Koshi/Rayn scumteam be buddying each other like that, Sn0?
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August 22 2013 20:58 GMT
#1201
On August 23 2013 05:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
It is likely only one of them scum I suppose but the way they are sucking each other off means that if one is town that particular person needs their head checked.

I've said before, I've had games as town where I have utterly irreconcilable differences with another townie and this could be a case of that but if they are both town then I don't even know what to say.

Iunno, nothing about that pair makes much sense to me tbh.

@Oats: Who da eff is scum then if it isn't some large portion of FT/VA the "I don't need to look like town" players or Koshi/Rayn the "Maybe if we shout loudest the thread will believe us" siamese twins.

PS: Can anybody explain unshakeable town reads from N0? Because rayn and koshi are pulling those out bigtime. Like, not only are they joined at the hip, but rayn has a variety of other "100% town" reads on way way too many people. It doesn't make any sense at all.

Have you commented on Koshi and Rayn's various accusations of me?
What do you think of those? Do you think those don't make sense?
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August 22 2013 21:23 GMT
#1210
On August 23 2013 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time!

Wait now kush is mafia? A few minutes ago he was perfectly fine as he was voting with you.

Don't put words in his mouth Rayn.
Bad bad play.
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#1254
On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote:
I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it.

Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats?

I disagree but meh.
I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you?

In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline.
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#1258
On August 23 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck, we are killing WoS. Now. Onegu drops from top 2 lynch candidate below top 8, in fucking 7 hours when halfof those people in latest list have not done anything.
##Unvote:
##Vote: WaveofShadow

Oh yeah, forgot about Onegu.
lol
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August 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#1259
Was wondering when you'd find a good excuse to put your vote back.
I bet it was especially enticing to you to know that I won't be around for deadline so you can push me extra hard after I've gone to bed, right?
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#1262
On August 23 2013 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i am going to bed now. This town is one of the stupidest i have seen if we are not lynching WoS today.

Bullying is a bad way to get what you want as town, Rayn.
Naughty naughty.
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#1293
On August 23 2013 10:21 mkfuba07 wrote:
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On August 23 2013 10:07 kushm4sta wrote:
why do you think he unvoted sno for WoS then peaced?? wos is never gonna get lynched tonight

It's really weird, and I can't think of a reason other than him actually being so convinced that WoS is scum that WoS not mentioning Onegu *really* tipped him over the edge.

I can---the exact reason I said. He needed a final reason to look 'tipped over the edge' so he could vote me and fuck off.
He had no intention of ever having his vote off of me for very long and wanted to find a reason to put it back despite the fact that he's been calling me scum since the beginning of the game, never wavered and yet for some reason wanted to vote Sn0 for a while.
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August 23 2013 01:29 GMT
#1294
Another thing I realized while looking through his massive fucking filter---he never ONCE considers the town perspective of anything I do. He immediately and ALWAYS fits everything I say and do into his 'WoS is scum' theories. This is shit play for town, and I truly and honestly believe that Rayn is purposefully tunneling me into oblivion because he believes that everyone will assume he is crazy and no scum would ever tunnel that hard.

Again the BH example in CCM proves that completely untrue.
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August 23 2013 01:31 GMT
#1295
Sorry for triplepost.
I don't want to waste my time pushing Rayn right now if no one will even consider him scum right now. It's much more important in my eyes to find scum that we can get some sort of majority (or at least large number) on.

Also Vayne, OMGUSvoting yamato is terrible play. Stop that. Do you actually think he's scum?
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August 23 2013 01:34 GMT
#1297
On August 23 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:21 mkfuba07 wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:07 kushm4sta wrote:
why do you think he unvoted sno for WoS then peaced?? wos is never gonna get lynched tonight

It's really weird, and I can't think of a reason other than him actually being so convinced that WoS is scum that WoS not mentioning Onegu *really* tipped him over the edge.

I can---the exact reason I said. He needed a final reason to look 'tipped over the edge' so he could vote me and fuck off.
He had no intention of ever having his vote off of me for very long and wanted to find a reason to put it back despite the fact that he's been calling me scum since the beginning of the game, never wavered and yet for some reason wanted to vote Sn0 for a while.


sooo...if you never posted the rest of the phase what happens then? That's a pretty illogical way of thinking. Take it for what it is - you had some one as scum and then completely forget about it somehow despite them doing absolutely nothing.

The way you pick and choose to call out people that are "doing nothing" makes zero sense to me. Either half this game is scum or you're picking and choosing targets for a reason.

Who have I picked and chosen to call scum for doing nothing, Vayne?
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August 23 2013 01:35 GMT
#1299
On August 23 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry for triplepost.
I don't want to waste my time pushing Rayn right now if no one will even consider him scum right now. It's much more important in my eyes to find scum that we can get some sort of majority (or at least large number) on.

Also Vayne, OMGUSvoting yamato is terrible play. Stop that. Do you actually think he's scum?


i don't see how it's terrible play. He refuses to take his vote off me (if you read the back and forth) so there's not much I can do except defend myself with my vote. Nothing anyone says will change his mind. You don't think that's weird and just an excuse to do nothing the rest of the phase?

I do, but unless you think he's scum and show us how, what does throwing your own vote back at him do?
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August 23 2013 01:41 GMT
#1303
On August 23 2013 10:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:21 mkfuba07 wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:07 kushm4sta wrote:
why do you think he unvoted sno for WoS then peaced?? wos is never gonna get lynched tonight

It's really weird, and I can't think of a reason other than him actually being so convinced that WoS is scum that WoS not mentioning Onegu *really* tipped him over the edge.

I can---the exact reason I said. He needed a final reason to look 'tipped over the edge' so he could vote me and fuck off.
He had no intention of ever having his vote off of me for very long and wanted to find a reason to put it back despite the fact that he's been calling me scum since the beginning of the game, never wavered and yet for some reason wanted to vote Sn0 for a while.


sooo...if you never posted the rest of the phase what happens then? That's a pretty illogical way of thinking. Take it for what it is - you had some one as scum and then completely forget about it somehow despite them doing absolutely nothing.

The way you pick and choose to call out people that are "doing nothing" makes zero sense to me. Either half this game is scum or you're picking and choosing targets for a reason.

Who have I picked and chosen to call scum for doing nothing, Vayne?


Myself for one. Somehow I'm scummy because I'm doing nothing but people like onegu magically slip off your radar when they aren't either? could you explain that?

LOL.
Read my filter again, breh.
Haven't called you scum even once.
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August 23 2013 01:42 GMT
#1304
In fact, while I am not completely sure as to your alignment (I'll give you town-side of null right now), I have specifically said I DO NOT want to lynch you.
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August 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#1306
On August 23 2013 10:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 08:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote:
I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it.

Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats?

I disagree but meh.
I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you?

In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline.


dont play games with me dude, I read the thread like a hawk

I'm not. That doesn't mean you're scum. That means you're null and I could maybe see you as the unknown last member of a scumteam along with like 5 other people. U mad I don't have you as super shiny townread or something?
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August 23 2013 01:50 GMT
#1309
On August 23 2013 10:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote:
I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it.

Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats?

I disagree but meh.
I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you?

In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline.


dont play games with me dude, I read the thread like a hawk

I'm not. That doesn't mean you're scum. That means you're null and I could maybe see you as the unknown last member of a scumteam along with like 5 other people. U mad I don't have you as super shiny townread or something?


yea as you can see I get very upset when people bring up scum and me in the same sentence because the one time I ever got lynched was a day 1 lynch and I had 3 of the 4 anti town members correct. I won't be looking to die early again here.

When yamato started in on you I was about to comment that I wouldn't mind a Vayne lynch solely because I know it would piss you off like crazy.


Alright Vayne honestly. Who are we voting for today? Do you think we shouldn't get rid of Crazometer?
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August 23 2013 01:54 GMT
#1310
Ugh fuck it I don't think we should get rid of Crazometer.
He is unflinching in his stances towards the way the game should be played in his eyes as a noobie to TL, and seems relatively unconcerned by anyone who finds him scummy. I really wish he'd contribute more though because what he HAS contributed hasn't been worth much.

##Unvote
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#1314
Nah I'm pretty certain kush is town.
I liked Sn0 a little better after my last exchange with him and I have no clue about Rainbows honestly.
yamato---I'll look at. Haven't yet.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 02:03 GMT
#1316
So.....
*BAD PLAY INC*
+ Show Spoiler +
Literally every exchange I can find between Rayn and yamato finds them disagreeing.
Over survivor claims, over my being town/scum.
Yamato/Rayn scumteam seems likely---game-long distancing attempts are pro for scumteam. Me and Vayne did it in Les Mis. Makes it very difficult to catch the both of you after people start flipping.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 02:07 GMT
#1319
On August 23 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote WoS

Ohai Oats, good to see you too.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 02:09 GMT
#1321
On August 23 2013 11:07 mkfuba07 wrote:
Why post something in spoilers that you openly admit is bad play =/

Because I wanted to get my thoughts out there. Transparency and all. In spoilers because you can feel free to ignore it but I want it to be down somewhere.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 02:13 GMT
#1324
I'm willing to bet Oats didn't vote me based on that post.
Appreciate the effort though, FT.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 02:22 GMT
#1327
On August 23 2013 11:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
I voted WoS for his unvote

Cool story.
That's what you're going with?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 03:13 GMT
#1338
We're going to end up lynching town. This is shit, people.
Sn0, get off of FT. We're not lynching him.
Oats, I'm not being lynched. Get off me.

Crazometer and Onegu when you two get back, gtfo kush.

Fucking CONSOLIDATION. Let's have it.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 05:14 GMT
#1389
Lol after I posted my consolidation post I went to go cast/commentate some TL LoL inhouses.
Fuba, I will agree with you so far as it does seem weird that I would post that and then disappear, but to think that I wouldn't say that as town is just laughable. I'm too lazy to do it now but I bet if you look through a few of my town games (which are in my profile btw) you will find me ALWAYS talking about that shit. Nuclear is probably a good example.

The reason I didn't mention Sn0 is because I'm totally on the fence about him. If it's coming down to the two of us (which, despite your efforts and some tohers it doesn't even seem to be happening that way lol) I will vote him to save myself but I'm too wishy-washy on him to feel good about it.

I actually want to go back and see who hopped on my wagon so quickly right after it seemed 'safe.'
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 05:16 GMT
#1390
Ah fuck it's just kush.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 05:16 GMT
#1391
On August 23 2013 14:07 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 13:46 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im here just been feeling really shitty, anyways I will consolidate my case for you kush I still want answers.

##UNVOTE

Going over everything now

Our two lynches for today are Sno_man and WoS. Ideally, we should consolidate on one so that we can prevent scum from vote-switching to save their ally right before the deadline.

Two questions for you:
Which one do you think is more scummy?
Why?



I am ok with both, I agree with rayne they are scum together but for now I prefer sno. Will go over both filters for now for make sure. Sno looks worse at this point with his cases and votes, added to his n0 play.

##VOTE:sn0_man

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Can we all switch to Onegu?
Have you come up with a unique thought all game dude? Rayn is right how the fuck DID I forget about you?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 05:36 GMT
#1396
kush y u do dis 2 me.
If I vote Sn0 he gets lynched but I don't want to fucking DO that yet. How was it arbitrarily decided that the two of us were the lynches of the day?

On August 23 2013 13:46 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im here just been feeling really shitty, anyways I will consolidate my case for you kush I still want answers.

##UNVOTE

Going over everything now

Our two lynches for today are Sno_man and WoS. Ideally, we should consolidate on one so that we can prevent scum from vote-switching to save their ally right before the deadline.

Two questions for you:
Which one do you think is more scummy?
Why?

People call me out for wanting to consolidate and then what do they do?
Follow exactly what I fucking said.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 05:38 GMT
#1397
On August 23 2013 14:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 14:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2013 14:07 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:46 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im here just been feeling really shitty, anyways I will consolidate my case for you kush I still want answers.

##UNVOTE

Going over everything now

Our two lynches for today are Sno_man and WoS. Ideally, we should consolidate on one so that we can prevent scum from vote-switching to save their ally right before the deadline.

Two questions for you:
Which one do you think is more scummy?
Why?



I am ok with both, I agree with rayne they are scum together but for now I prefer sno. Will go over both filters for now for make sure. Sno looks worse at this point with his cases and votes, added to his n0 play.

##VOTE:sn0_man

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Can we all switch to Onegu?
Have you come up with a unique thought all game dude? Rayn is right how the fuck DID I forget about you?



You wanted consolidation and now you attack me for it.

No I attack you for not having an original though all game like I stated. You just piggyback on the cases and thoughts of others.
If you're just sheeping to consolidate that's one thing, but you didn't say that.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 05:48 GMT
#1399
Alright well I'm going to bed soon so it seems I got what I wanted in terms of consolidation.
##Vote: Sn0_man
Not my ideal choice but whatever.
If I wake up and find myself lynched I would hope you guys know what to do. Read through my filter if you're unsure.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 06:00 GMT
#1404
On August 23 2013 14:54 kushm4sta wrote:
cmon wos people.. we can make fun of rayne if he's town

Making fun is not good enough.
Rayn is good enough at his game that this town will let him off the hook despite some crucial blunders he's made after my flip.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 06:20 GMT
#1407
Sn0 are you gonna flip town?
If you do, who would you like lynched D2?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 06:54 GMT
#1421
Night guys.
Koshi and Rayn are same.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 23 2013 16:39 GMT
#1601
gg guys.
sorry
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 02 2013 04:08 GMT
#2753
I'm sad because aside from Rayn my scumreads were pretty damn good this game. People kept mentioning my 'list of 8 reads' or whatever it was but no one actually looked into my posts.

I had Geript looking really scummy early for his using my actual name in thread (though I dropped it because i felt paranoid about it) and I had yamato as well at some point (but I forget when). I had Crazo nearly from the start. The only person I doubt I ever would have gotten early was FT.

Anyway, sorry for real shit play this game guys, but gj for pulling it off. In the end considering the setup I guess it's actually a good thing I got lynched early.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 02 2013 15:54 GMT
#2768
On September 02 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 21:19 yamato77 wrote:
Third scum game in a row. Honestly, the fact that I avoided the lynch EVEN ONCE is a fucking amazing thing to me.


Hahaha. You should thank me! On the other hand i managed to remove the most scum-favoured cop ever from the game. :D

Yeah honestly.
I don't even feel bad for getting mislynched at this point since I probably would have done more damage alive.
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