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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Or I suppose rayn got framed to red or is a NSAM but I don't buy there being a SAM and NSAM in the same game and I don't buy a scumteam involving Koshi (who has yet to seriously disagree with rayn the entire game) FRAMING rayn. It would make koshi look bad if rayn gets red checked. So basically as far as I'm concerned there is 0 reason to lynch Koshi over rayn. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote: yamaro is scum btw guys This is right and you need to lynch yamato tomorrow. Then take a relook at snoman and rainbows, also fuba. Also if there is a vig you absolutely need to vig me. There is no question about it. Whatever you believe my alignment is vig me. I just became a huge distraction whatever i say. It's the best and correct play. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:24 VayneAuthority wrote: whats the point of convincing you of anything when you are already too biased? All of the things you just said describe yamato also but he somehow isn't scummy to you. Hmm.. 1. threw away his vote as well 2. did no scumhunting 3. said he would not change his vote no matter what Yamato contributed more day 1. I really wish he didn't also play awfully by voting the way he did, but he isn't here claiming he did his job by OMGUSing. The very act of taking the initiative to vote for somebody of his own accord is better than just sitting there waiting for somebody to vote you so you can vote them back. I mean, you just listed what he did, said he did the same as you, and described him as insanely scummy. Also where did I call him "not scummy" I said nobody made a case on him including you. Really, I don't want to lynch you for at least 5 IRL days so I'm not sure why you are so convinced I'm biased against you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If i flip "framed" question him, there is no reason to not think like taht unless you know i was framed. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:34 Sn0_Man wrote: Yamato contributed more day 1. I really wish he didn't also play awfully by voting the way he did, but he isn't here claiming he did his job by OMGUSing. The very act of taking the initiative to vote for somebody of his own accord is better than just sitting there waiting for somebody to vote you so you can vote them back. I mean, you just listed what he did, said he did the same as you, and described him as insanely scummy. Also where did I call him "not scummy" I said nobody made a case on him including you. Really, I don't want to lynch you for at least 5 IRL days so I'm not sure why you are so convinced I'm biased against you. andd checkmate. What alignment am I again when I look really scummy? Oh that's right, town. why do you need a case so badly to decide of somebody is scum or not? Can't think on your own without sheeping a case to make yourself look decent? Bias is pretty much the definition of my last post; you are arguing with me about what I am doing when yamato is doing the same exact thing then asking me why he is scummy? How does that make any sense? Yamato contributing more is completely subjective so not even going to comment on that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Also yamato is good at that shit. Especially in that shit. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
The very act of taking the initiative to vote for somebody of his own accord is better than just sitting there waiting for somebody to vote you so you can vote them back. Why? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Did you seriously just say that "When I'm Scummy that means I'm town"? This from the guy that started the game with "Please don't judge me by meta but rather by actions" at the start of this game. I just quoted that post like last page. Yamato contributing more is absolutely objective because he took any initiative whatsoever instead of sitting inside his castle waiting for somebody to come and attack him. He bothered to even call somebody scummy instead of literally "I warned you this would happen" and counter vote 0 argument. You are free to contribute now though, and if you wish to do so then more power to you. If you achieve anything I'll get off your back. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:29 Sn0_Man wrote: I wouldn't mind lynching Koshi only its literally impossible for Koshi to be scum and rayn to be town unless: Koshi is scum, claimed Self Aware Miller, then got Framed to green by a scum ally so that (get this) any check on him would give away that he lied from the very start of the game. Or I suppose rayn got framed to red or is a NSAM but I don't buy there being a SAM and NSAM in the same game and I don't buy a scumteam involving Koshi (who has yet to seriously disagree with rayn the entire game) FRAMING rayn. It would make koshi look bad if rayn gets red checked. So basically as far as I'm concerned there is 0 reason to lynch Koshi over rayn. So Snoman, if koshi had a green check on any day, is he scum? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Because the latter is not doing anything. Not doing anything defaults to mafia victory. I've explained this already. Town does not win by sitting on their ass and waiting for shit to go down. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote: 2-3 more hours Wanna talk about reads in ~1h? I need to go to sauna first as i just got back from playing beach volley. I won't distract if you feel i am doing it. I would just like to bring my opinion heard in case i am vigged (which is very likely). | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote: So Snoman, if koshi had a green check on any day, is he scum? I'd assume he was framed since nobody in their right minds claims SAM as a role that shows green to cop checks. That doesn't really affect his alignment. It would actually look good for Koshi since it seems unlikely that scum would frame themselves to green after claiming red. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote: @vayne Sorry, I don't have the time to comprehensively reread 14 people every time they post. I start with a read, and it develops as they post (yam looked town). If you wish to make me reconsider, make a case and if it looks promising I will re-evaluate that person completely via filter etc. Very simple. Did you seriously just say that "When I'm Scummy that means I'm town"? This from the guy that started the game with "Please don't judge me by meta but rather by actions" at the start of this game. I just quoted that post like last page. Yamato contributing more is absolutely objective because he took any initiative whatsoever instead of sitting inside his castle waiting for somebody to come and attack him. He bothered to even call somebody scummy instead of literally "I warned you this would happen" and counter vote 0 argument. You are free to contribute now though, and if you wish to do so then more power to you. If you achieve anything I'll get off your back. How is that meta? It's a simple fact. Check any game I've ever played in. When nobody suspects me, I have been scum more often than not. When people say I look scummy I'm town because scum need to try and make garbage tier arguments on the less tryhard players since that's all they can really do. Why do you care how we got to the end result? The fact of the matter is yamato did no more than me in getting a scum lynched yesterday, anything other than that is your completely biased opinion. I'll contribute on my own grounds, until I know at least one scum there is very few people I trust right now | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
B) so when you are mafia you do stuff but when you are town you can't be assed to try to even look like you are doing stuff or in any other way town aligned. Great. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 24 2013 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote: Because the latter is not doing anything. Not doing anything defaults to mafia victory. I've explained this already. Town does not win by sitting on their ass and waiting for shit to go down. So all scum are bad and all town is awesome in your world I guess. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 24 2013 03:01 Sn0_Man wrote: A) what exactly does the word "meta" mean to you? to me it means "Using past games of mafia of this player to in any way affect my opinions of his current play and/or alignment". Which as far as I can tell is what you are asking me to do. Yes my description is a verb and meta is a nounish thing. You get the idea. B) so when you are mafia you do stuff but when you are town you can't be assed to try to even look like you are doing stuff or in any other way town aligned. Great. Pretty much. The game is a lot easier when you know all the answers, do you disagree? I never like rolling town because I feel useless. | ||
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