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On August 23 2013 04:59 kushm4sta wrote:Rayne the lynch on WoS is not happening. The lynch on snoman is not happening. who do you want to lynch then? you do not get to say what lynch is happening and what is not. snoman is mafia, probably WoS aswell. We are lynching Snoman. FirmTofu is obviously town.
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Now why is ft OBVIOUSLY town?!?!
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If I die, everyone needs to listen to rayn/vayne/koshi.
They are the only people who are capable of figuring this game out. I unfortunately have to go to work. I'll be back in 5-6 hours. I sincerely hope you all will come to your senses by then.
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koshi, rayne, ft, crazy scumteam..for endgame bragging rights!
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zomg he just gave us his entire scumteam lol
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On August 23 2013 04:59 FirmTofu wrote:@Sno Please respond to this. Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 10:39 FirmTofu wrote:On August 21 2013 06:04 Sn0_Man wrote:Not that I haven't flung my share of shit at a decent variety of players this game, but if we take a look at rayns filter he has called the following people scum: Me, Geript, WoS, Rainbows, Oats, On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah its all WoS didnt answer me. and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum. Thats all.
no it's not. you are probably mafia.- and DP On August 20 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holy fuck, is DP scum aswell? In other words, every person who has posted anything worth mentioning except Koshi. Pressuring a variety of people is fine but rayn has already demonstrated an incredible level of certainty regarding the scumminess of at least WoS/Me/Rainbows and the others were pretty strong language for a while as well. I just currently don't see rayn being helpful to town. I see him bidding for dominance in the thread in a way that doesn't seem conducive to success in an N0 start if he believed what he was saying as well. And I see him doing a lot of "Oh yeah X is totally scum" without justifying it at all (the only time he ever justified an opinion was on WoS). It doesn't fit to me, right now. Still waiting on more people to seriously contribute to thread. I just caught this post. Sno, could you explain how rayn being accusatory and aggressive makes him scum? It looks like you are simply trying to discredit him here.You don't seem to be pushing for his lynch, but you want everyone to ignore him. Why would a townie want this when he isn't in rayn's crosshairs? What town motivation do you have to discredit rayn when he isn't even attacking you much? I added ur EBWOP in.
I'm attacking rayn because I didn't like how he was playing and I didn't agree with the conclusions he was drawing, so I was making sure the rest of the thread saw another side to his "arguments".
The fact that I'm discrediting him when he wasn't attacking me much is actually a decent sign that I'm not scum. If I was scum I couldn't care less what garbage he was spewing so long as he didn't attack me. The fact that he had thrown shit on or outright accused at LEAST 6 players by then would totally play into my hands if I were scum...
Thus, at the bottom of my post I say that rayn is essentially playing this in a way that doesn't benefit town. The unspoken implication being he is scum/3p. Which I still believe although I'll admit that I do have experiences with townies who play completely contrary to me and we fight each other's arguments incessantly.
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On August 23 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 05:01 FirmTofu wrote:On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote: Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT) Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me. So the people who have voted you thus far are scum? Why do you make shitty comments like this? Trying to make the town on the FT wagon feel better about their choice?
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On August 23 2013 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: FirmTofu's thought process has been very clear throughout the game. FirmTofu is much less involved in the game when he is town. He tries too hard as mafia. Here he is being clear, his explanations on things are good, his thought process is easy to follow and makes sense. There is nothing scummy in his play.
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On August 23 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 04:59 kushm4sta wrote:On August 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is a mislynch. Rayne the lynch on WoS is not happening. The lynch on snoman is not happening. who do you want to lynch then? you do not get to say what lynch is happening and what is not. snoman is mafia, probably WoS aswell. We are lynching Snoman. FirmTofu is obviously town. Trying so hard not to derail but somebody tell me this doesn't sound like a member of the scumteam trying to be the voice of dissent so if/when FT flips he looks good.
I've done it myself. I do agree that this isn't a good lynch however. Popped up WAY too fast and way too many people jumped on board when we barely had 2 people voting on any one person for the past 36 hours or so. Just doesn't feel good to me.
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I have pushed FT mislynch as town. I have pushed FT mislynch as mafia. I have pushed FT lynch as twon when he was mafia. I know how he reacts to the situation and he is not mafia in this game. Period.
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@kush surprise surprise those are the 4 people I want to lynch most right now.
Incidentally, There is virtually NO chance a scum player as the current most likely lynch target would spew his scumbuddies like that in an attempt to improve their situation later, so free townie points for those 3. I think.
PS: geript is currently the recipient of a free ride I'm not sure he deserves. Geript is traditionally more active and aggressive in games i've played with him.
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On August 23 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2013 05:01 FirmTofu wrote:On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote: Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT) Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me. So the people who have voted you thus far are scum? Why do you make shitty comments like this? Trying to make the town on the FT wagon feel better about their choice? No, I am literally asking him to think about the statement he made and whether it makes sense. So biased, Koshi. Real sad.
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On August 23 2013 05:08 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 23 2013 04:59 kushm4sta wrote:On August 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is a mislynch. Rayne the lynch on WoS is not happening. The lynch on snoman is not happening. who do you want to lynch then? you do not get to say what lynch is happening and what is not. snoman is mafia, probably WoS aswell. We are lynching Snoman. FirmTofu is obviously town. Trying so hard not to derail but somebody tell me this doesn't sound like a member of the scumteam trying to be the voice of dissent so if/when FT flips he looks good. I've done it myself. I do agree that this isn't a good lynch however. Popped up WAY too fast and way too many people jumped on board when we barely had 2 people voting on any one person for the past 36 hours or so. Just doesn't feel good to me. Do not discredit me when you have no idea what you are talking about.
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EBWOP: In the very same post you do EXACTLY the same thing you are accusing me of.
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On August 23 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: In the very same post you do EXACTLY the same thing you are accusing me of. Guess I must be scum, right?
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On August 23 2013 05:09 Sn0_Man wrote: @kush surprise surprise those are the 4 people I want to lynch most right now.
Incidentally, There is virtually NO chance a scum player as the current most likely lynch target would spew his scumbuddies like that in an attempt to improve their situation later, so free townie points for those 3. I think.
PS: geript is currently the recipient of a free ride I'm not sure he deserves. Geript is traditionally more active and aggressive in games i've played with him. I can agree with this. Sn0 can you comment on the below for me?
On August 22 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 09:25 geript wrote: @Rayn.... I'm tired of the WoS shit. You noted differences between games. I see that as meta. You talk about him not wanting to explain himself; having played a billion games with him, I see that as just something Daniel could do. As to him continuing to not engage you, I actually see that as a towny thing for him to do. In the last game we hydra'd he literally said "ITalk to your friend (JJD) b/c I'm done w/ him and his shit." I would completely understand him doing something similar here.
You still scum on Sn0? Whoa whoa. What is with the out-of-game/'RL friends'/emotional appeal? You bring up the example of JJD and you're right, but the ONLY time I've ever seen you do something like this is when you wanted JJD to know who you were and used his real name, as our town hydra. This honestly looks like a crumb you're leaving for me to make me think that you're town specifically BECAUSE you did the same thing here.
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ok rayne you win if you know his meta so well ##unvote ##vote FT
back on craycray ##vote crazy
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On August 23 2013 05:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:On August 23 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2013 05:01 FirmTofu wrote:On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote: Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT) Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me. So the people who have voted you thus far are scum? Why do you make shitty comments like this? Trying to make the town on the FT wagon feel better about their choice? No, I am literally asking him to think about the statement he made and whether it makes sense. So biased, Koshi. Real sad. haha. Yeah it was too obvious :D Your previous post gave you townie points again.
Below the message I was typing before refresh and I saw yours. + Show Spoiler +Well that case was complete garbage though. I can't believe a scummer would make such a case on a town wagon. Scum FT is way more sneaky than that.
The outrage that came after that ridiculous post by FT makes me not want to vote him.
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On August 23 2013 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: In the very same post you do EXACTLY the same thing you are accusing me of. Guess I must be scum, right? yes you are scum aswell.
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