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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 19:40 GMT
#1141
Sn0, I'm curious as to why you aren't voting me right now. Do you still think Vayne is scummier than me?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 19:41 GMT
#1142
On August 23 2013 04:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would totally lynch FT

You've been saying this for a while now. I don't really understand why you've never made the move to actually vote me. If you find me scummy, why aren't you pushing your reads? Why aren't you pressuring me?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#1143
On August 23 2013 04:38 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 04:34 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 23 2013 04:32 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 04:31 kushm4sta wrote:
I think we should lynch FT today actually. Anyone want to with me?

##unvote
##vote FT

You wanna provide some reasoning? Do you disagree with what I said?


you think scum didn't roleblock someone on purpose just so sno could say "no roleblockers lol?'
why would scum do that

I explained that.

Scum didn't roleblock N0 so that they could roleblock N1. If they roleblock N1, the person who is roleblocked will appear scummy because no one was roleblocked N0. Scum was playing at driving discussion on Day 2 about roleblocks to divert attention away from them.

Regardless, how does this "conspiracy theory" make me scummy? Care to explain?

Why would scum fake a rb claim when there wasnt 1 day 1 FT? Your explanation tries really hard to paint Snodude as scummy. But its bridge too far.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#1144
On August 23 2013 04:41 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 04:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would totally lynch FT

You've been saying this for a while now. I don't really understand why you've never made the move to actually vote me. If you find me scummy, why aren't you pushing your reads? Why aren't you pressuring me?

I dont need to.
No gg, No skill.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 22 2013 19:44 GMT
#1145
Bandwagon FT plz


first content post of the game, showing slight suspicion of literally everyone on his list
On August 21 2013 10:04 FirmTofu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
My overall thoughts:

WoS and geript seem to have some sort of mutual camaraderie based on past games and the friendship they have formed through their hydra. Therefore, you can expect them to play irrationally when speaking of one another. I think we should make note of this.

WoS is a real funnybunny. I don't like any of his opinions on how to handle N0. On this topic, rayn wins the argument handily. Remaining quiet on N0 is definitely mafia-favored play. There is no reason to silence ourselves when discussion is the greatest asset we have. However, I don't think this is as damning as rayn says it is. WoS looks scummy, sure, but his play is equally likely to be bad town as it is to be scum.

Geript's meta indicates that geript may be scum this game. Town geript usually attacks and pushes like a monster. Geript this game has been relatively subdued.

Vayne is not posting much and is not looking particularly scummy. Knowing Vayne, this is quite odd. Town Vayne usually likes to look scummy so that he won't get NK'd until endgame. Vayne in this game looks nothing like town Vayne.

Koshi is looking scummy and stupid. Whenever Koshi looks scummy and stupid, he flips town. See: Titanic and all of his other town games. Whenever he is spot on with his reads and looks like he knows what he is doing, he flips scum. At best, he's a good vigi shot right now. Lynching him is not a good course of action.

Kush is basically Koshi divided by 2. He just posts less, but his playstyle is very similar. Thus, he is also probably not the best lynch right now.

After GoT, I'm not sure how to read rayn anymore. I thought I had him figured out after Titanic and his scum play in I Swear 2, but he played a solid scum game in GoT and threw me off. For the time being, he remains a volatile player that is more likely to hurt town than help it. I would not mind a vig shot on him, but I am finding it hard to read him right now. Saving for later.

That's all I want to talk about for now. If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to let you know.



This is the reason he is picking sno over WoS lol..... Also it looks very likely that he is bringing this up as scum to capitalize on DP's incorrect reads. Scum want to get the most out of the nks.
On August 22 2013 04:45 FirmTofu wrote:
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The main reason I prefer the sn0 lynch to WoS is because of the NK.

Why did they kill DarthPunk? DarthPunk must've been on the right track. I'm inclined to believe that at least one of Rainbows and sn0 is scum, if not both.

Lynching into one of DP's strongest scum reads is a safer bet than WoS.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 19:47 GMT
#1146
On August 23 2013 04:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 04:38 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 04:34 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 23 2013 04:32 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 04:31 kushm4sta wrote:
I think we should lynch FT today actually. Anyone want to with me?

##unvote
##vote FT

You wanna provide some reasoning? Do you disagree with what I said?


you think scum didn't roleblock someone on purpose just so sno could say "no roleblockers lol?'
why would scum do that

I explained that.

Scum didn't roleblock N0 so that they could roleblock N1. If they roleblock N1, the person who is roleblocked will appear scummy because no one was roleblocked N0. Scum was playing at driving discussion on Day 2 about roleblocks to divert attention away from them.

Regardless, how does this "conspiracy theory" make me scummy? Care to explain?

Why would scum fake a rb claim when there wasnt 1 day 1 FT? Your explanation tries really hard to paint Snodude as scummy. But its bridge too far.


My intention was not really to paint Sno_man as scummy. I was literally posting stuff that I was thinking. As town, I like to be as transparent as possible. If I'm thinking something, I usually post it.

I understand you think my theory is unlikely, but can you explain how:
FirmTofu posts an unlikely theory=> FirmTofu is scum
?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 19:48 GMT
#1147
We should be talking about sn0_dude, not me. This is such a waste of time.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1148
On August 23 2013 04:48 FirmTofu wrote:
We should be talking about sn0_dude, not me. This is such a waste of time.

Nha we can talk about both.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1149
On August 23 2013 04:40 FirmTofu wrote:
Sn0, I'm curious as to why you aren't voting me right now. Do you still think Vayne is scummier than me?

You know, I wrote up a long post about how much I hate people who just vote everywhere like their vote doesn't matter. I really like being considered with my vote and making sure it has meaning even when placed early in a day. However, you are practically begging me to vote you here.

#YOLO

##Unvote
##Vote: FirmTofu
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#1150
lol kush. Why can't you play like this all the time?
I gots to do some reading. Don't know if I'll get it all done now but again as promised my activity will pick up in the evening.
Also Rayn wtf you unvoted me?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#1151
FT posts an unlikely theory that happens to paint his top scumread as scum. Sadly that theory is bullshit. Scum post bullshit.
Somemore bullshit is the reason you voted for Snodude.
like what the fuck is this shit?
You just attacked a few random people in the beginning of the game to provide the illusion of scumhunting, then you afked to allow the thread to fester. Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you.

Its all speculation. You are providing shitty reasons that snodude is scum for his gameplay. scum cant find good reasons because they know they are attacking town. Your reasons are shit.
Shit reasons+speculation that is totally wrong+not attacking someone who fits your apparent view of scummy play to a tee.
Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you.

isnt this what vayne is doing?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1152
##unvote
##vote FT
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2013 19:55 GMT
#1153
This is a mislynch.
table for two on a tv tray
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 19:55 GMT
#1154
On August 23 2013 04:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT posts an unlikely theory that happens to paint his top scumread as scum. Sadly that theory is bullshit. Scum post bullshit.
Somemore bullshit is the reason you voted for Snodude.
like what the fuck is this shit?
Show nested quote +
You just attacked a few random people in the beginning of the game to provide the illusion of scumhunting, then you afked to allow the thread to fester. Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you.

Its all speculation. You are providing shitty reasons that snodude is scum for his gameplay. scum cant find good reasons because they know they are attacking town. Your reasons are shit.
Shit reasons+speculation that is totally wrong+not attacking someone who fits your apparent view of scummy play to a tee.
Show nested quote +
Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you.

isnt this what vayne is doing?

I'm not sure how any of that is speculation. That is exactly what Sn0_man has been doing all game. Read his filter. Sn0, can you respond to my earlier post that you conveniently ignored the entire game?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2013 19:57 GMT
#1155
Random thought from reading the thread just now I want to get donw before I forget:
Vayne your meta reads are shit bad. I must admit I suppose I haven't been caring as much about this game or been as active as usual, but the fact that you are mentioning Les Mis (and Rayn as well) as my SOLE scumgame as an example of meta play is frankly just awful. You're doing the same with Basterd---ONE game as 3P does not a meta make.

Who do you want to lynch?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 19:59 GMT
#1156
@Sno Please respond to this.
On August 21 2013 10:39 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 06:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Not that I haven't flung my share of shit at a decent variety of players this game, but if we take a look at rayns filter he has called the following people scum:
Me,
Geript,
WoS,
Rainbows,
Oats,
On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.
Thats all.

no it's not. you are probably mafia.-

and DP
On August 20 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy fuck, is DP scum aswell?


In other words, every person who has posted anything worth mentioning except Koshi. Pressuring a variety of people is fine but rayn has already demonstrated an incredible level of certainty regarding the scumminess of at least WoS/Me/Rainbows and the others were pretty strong language for a while as well.

I just currently don't see rayn being helpful to town. I see him bidding for dominance in the thread in a way that doesn't seem conducive to success in an N0 start if he believed what he was saying as well. And I see him doing a lot of "Oh yeah X is totally scum" without justifying it at all (the only time he ever justified an opinion was on WoS). It doesn't fit to me, right now.

Still waiting on more people to seriously contribute to thread.

I just caught this post. Sno, could you explain how rayn being accusatory and aggressive makes him scum? It looks like you are simply trying to discredit him here.You don't seem to be pushing for his lynch, but you want everyone to ignore him. Why would a townie want this when he isn't in rayn's crosshairs? What town motivation do you have to discredit rayn when he isn't even attacking you?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 22 2013 19:59 GMT
#1157
On August 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is a mislynch.

Rayne the lynch on WoS is not happening. The lynch on snoman is not happening. who do you want to lynch then?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 22 2013 20:00 GMT
#1158
Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT)
I had a good night of sleep.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 22 2013 20:01 GMT
#1159
On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT)

Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2013 20:02 GMT
#1160
On August 23 2013 05:01 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Why are people outraged by FT his insane theory while the insane theory of the Snowman was ignored? (that rayn and I are scum because we failed a play in the thread because I didn't read the scum QT)

Because I'm town and scum are piling up on me.

So the people who have voted you thus far are scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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